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There are confirmed elves that live longer than that. Could be a bloodline thing, or magic. It's a mystery.
 

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Ash from Red Mountain must be carcinogenic or they're indeed cursed by Azura now way Altmer live that short; Legate Fasendil the son of traveling Merchant thus a prole and and Imperial Soldier not Battlemage with at least 160 years of combat duty and hard legion life attest to this.
 
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Barenziah and Symmachus both lived for a good long while. Indeed, Symmachus (of peasant background, if I'm not mistaken) was still fighting at a ripe old age, and his death wasn't because he was old. Granted, they were both nobles (at least later in life), and had access to whatever medicinal perks that entails. But how far can that get you, beyond overcoming sickness? I guess you could pay someone to keep your body intact, but we've seen Telvanni mages whose own attempts to do the same had noticeable detrimental effects to their sanity, and these were supposedly experts in the area. I doubt the best of the best sell their services.

The interview is a bit odd in that regard. I'd accept someone living in Red Mountain's shadow having a relatively short life expectancy, but the interview is with one who lives in Cyrodiil. Genetics, maybe, but really, 130 is old for a human in Tamriel, not so much for an elf. Could just be outdated, but that's a fairly boring conclusion to draw.
 

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Barenziah and Symmachus both lived for a good long while.
Yeah I was surprised when I saw the interview. Barenziah was Tiber's mistress and then you see her alive and well in Tribunal, and there's a good 400 years in between the 2 events. Granted she's not young by then, but she's not a decrepit old woman in a wheelchair either. 120-130 as an average but with a max of >400 years like an odd distribution.
 

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There are confirmed elves that live longer than that. Could be a bloodline thing, or magic. It's a mystery.
Sure. Divayth Fyr is about 4000 years old, and Vivec is a young upstart for him. Barenziah has also been mentioned. The short lifespan of normal Dunmer is supposed to be due to the harsh conditions and/or the curse, and magic can help to alleviate that (most Telvanni mage lords are very old).
 

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The average lifespan of the average Dunmer took a serious nosedive once this argonian Nerevarine took up his mantle. Fucking racist blueskins.
 
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My impression is that they lived 400-500 years or so and anything more than that is dictated by the plot magical abilities of the individual, which is kind of hard to measure because only the lowliest peasant elves don't have at least a degree of magical ability.
 

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Divayth Fyr probably used the same Corprus trick that worked on the Nerevarine and became immortal himself.

Neloth is still around in Skyrim, and once his Heartstone experiment works out he's immortal too.
 
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Divayth Fyr still would have been some 3500 years old by the time Dagoth Ur resurfaced, so Corprus would have only done so much, even if he could somehow overcome its negative effects.
 

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Divayth Fyr probably used the same Corprus trick that worked on the Nerevarine and became immortal himself.

Neloth is still around in Skyrim, and once his Heartstone experiment works out he's immortal too.

Fyr didn't use the same Corprus trick- its lore that the Nerevarine was the first to get 'cured' of corprus (or at least get rid of the bad parts) Divayath's longevity is unrelated to Corprus- he's just that awesome and powerful although he might have learned something from the Psijic Order since he was a member.
 

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I thought Fyr cloned a younger version of himself when he got old and then transferred his consciousness into the new body? Sort of like how he made his daughter-wives.
 

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I thought Fyr cloned a younger version of himself when he got old and then transferred his consciousness into the new body? Sort of like how he made his daughter-wives.

There's nothing in the lore about that and we see other extremely long lived Psijics such as Iachesis. His daughter/wives are 'a benefit' of the corprus research- his immortality (or at least extreme life extension) isn't.
 

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Of all the stupid references to your skill levels, I'm surprised Smithing isn't one of them, given no one shuts up about the master smith (and as far as I know, none of the other masters are actually referenced outside of the training interface, unlike Morrowind, where most master trainers were referenced in books).
 
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How do you pump Alchemy in Requiem, guys? I've eaten and brewed all I could find for miles around Riverwood and Whiterun as a Dunmer mage, and the skill is still barely pushing something around 15. The massive grind even that's taken is really starting to get to me. Can't even imagine ever getting anywhere in Alchemy with "natural" use (buy/find stuff on travels -> eat/brew).
Is it all about sinking money into trainers, or am I missing something retardedly obvious about mechanics?
 

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How do you pump Alchemy in Requiem, guys? I've eaten and brewed all I could find for miles around Riverwood and Whiterun as a Dunmer mage, and the skill is still barely pushing something around 15. The massive grind even that's taken is really starting to get to me. Can't even imagine ever getting anywhere in Alchemy with "natural" use (buy/find stuff on travels -> eat/brew).
Is it all about sinking money into trainers, or am I missing something retardedly obvious about mechanics?
Salt + garlic. The experience is based on how much money the resulting potion is worth, and health/stamina/magicka ones are worth almost nothing, but resist poison(as above recipe) is worth a lot.
 

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How do you pump Alchemy in Requiem, guys? I've eaten and brewed all I could find for miles around Riverwood and Whiterun as a Dunmer mage, and the skill is still barely pushing something around 15. The massive grind even that's taken is really starting to get to me. Can't even imagine ever getting anywhere in Alchemy with "natural" use (buy/find stuff on travels -> eat/brew).
Is it all about sinking money into trainers, or am I missing something retardedly obvious about mechanics?
As said above potion value = exp gained.
Valuable recepts are:
Damage stamina/magicka/health poisons
Fortify stamina/magicka/health - fortify health is called rigidity while spellflux is fortify magicka
Regenerate stamina/magicka/health - stamina regen is called spiritness
Invisibility but this one is hard to get, i recommend chaurus eggs + nirnroot
With these you should easily get 250+ value (depends on your skill+perks), the rest are either average (100 value) or crap. If multiple effects then value is even higher eg. wheat+giant's toe is rigidity+damage stamina regen which easily goes over 550 in value.
 

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Ok i'm doing the dragonborn DLC and i'm stuck on a Retaking Thirsk quest. I am supposed to follow the woman to Hrohmund's Harrow and there is a brook we need to cross which she fails to do EVERY SINGLE TIME and falls down, prompting her to climb the hill again and try again. Is there a console cheat to teleport her couple of meters forward?
 

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Ok i'm doing the dragonborn DLC and i'm stuck on a Retaking Thirsk quest. I am supposed to follow the woman to Hrohmund's Harrow and there is a brook we need to cross which she fails to do EVERY SINGLE TIME and falls down, prompting her to climb the hill again and try again. Is there a console cheat to teleport her couple of meters forward?

There's a console command to move NPCs to where you are. Also I would guess if you fast travel to the destination she'll be there.
 
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Jaedar said:
Salt + garlic. The experience is based on how much money the resulting potion is worth, and health/stamina/magicka ones are worth almost nothing, but resist poison(as above recipe) is worth a lot.
Borelli said:
As said above potion value = exp gained.
I must've been unlucky with ingredients, then. Guess I'll keep at it. Thanks.
 

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99% of people talking how "video games are legit art" never seen a piece of art in their whole lives and don't give a shit about "watching paintings" etc. otherwise.

Why are they so fixated on it? It has to be art for them or it's otherwise, what, worthless? ffs
 

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Exactly. Why the need to hold up examples to prove the artistic merrit of 'your medium' if it doesn't have serious issue with it's self respect?

It's a young medium. It's nichehood led to some nice developments in the 90's, but that dies off with it's growing popularity. Now we'll have to wait for the thing to grow before we see real progress.
 

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The average lifespan of the average Dunmer took a serious nosedive once this argonian Nerevarine took up his mantle. Fucking racist blueskins.
:lol: :salute:

Divayth Fyr probably used the same Corprus trick that worked on the Nerevarine and became immortal himself.
Except all the previous test subjects were killed by the attempts to cure them and Fyr is not a fool.
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Divayth Fyr still would have been some 3500 years old by the time Dagoth Ur resurfaced
This.

Fyr was already ancient before he got to play with Corprus and some of other Telvanni are about as old without ever playing with it.

Magic gives you a lot tools to bypass stuff like aging - you can repair aging-related damage with restoration, maybe loosen grip of the entropy on your body with alteration, or even patch the failing bits with necromancy (Therana seems to be maintained this way, although it took toll on her and she is definitely senile).

You may even get some direct benefit from just dabbling in mystical arts in itself.

I thought Fyr cloned a younger version of himself when he got old and then transferred his consciousness into the new body? Sort of like how he made his daughter-wives.
In TES this would imply soul transfer and I don't think it's doable without incurring undeath.

Plus there is nothing indicating that anything like that happened.
 

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