lol, this logic fails on so many levels. It assumes there is indeed a "too high skill level comparative to "right" ELO"-test and it isn't simply human nature that believes they belong higher than they deserve.
I believe my deserved ELO is 1450-1500. So fuck you (see below).
The closest thing to evidence you've ever presented is your ability to play at a higher Premade ELO
My current solo queue ELO is 1560 (Grunkerman on EUNE), and I've had solo queue ratings of everything from 900 to 1650 within the last year and a half. I have stated this many times. Also, your point is hilarious considering it's coming from someone whose sole piece of "evidence" is an anecdote of how HE can get to 1400 with 100% assurance.
stuff that compares premade to solo queue
I find it hilarious that you're comparing the two considering I have not done so
once in the entire thread for purposes of saying something about solo queue. I've said premade was better - the way the game is meant to be played, and I have said my former ELO of 900 was probably undeserved as I was able to play on a friend's account without issues. Full stop.
Anyway, let's get one fact straight: Neither of us has any basis for claiming we're presenting "evidence." We're purely arguing logics here.
That out of the way, my piece of logic is that you have to be comparatively better to carry yourself out of ELO hell. This makes perfect logical sense. It does so for the following, pretty clear reason: Compare a team game of 5v5 in League of Legends Solo Queue to a game of Starcraft II. It is undeniable that the latter is purely based on your perfomance and that of your opponent. It is also undeniable that this is not the case in the team game. As both games have little to no random factors besides player input, we can safely say that the LoL game is more random than the Starcraft II game by quite a big factor. In this case, as with the roll of a die, some people will obviously be lucky while some people won't.
Do I believe that you are right that most ELO-hell talk stems from the fact that people are worse than they think they are? YES - I even think that's the case with plenty people in this thread. But this fact doesn't take anything away from the points for the existence of ELO hell. Logic dictates that it exists. Now, to be sure, an extensive collection of empiric data is necessary, but since neither of us can present anything of the sort we'll have to rely on our this little hypothetical debate... In it, I have presented a logic argument, and you have presented a piece of anecdotal evidence.
On that note, if you think anecdotal evidence is valid, how about explaining to me how I - someone who has gotten slightly better over the last year but with no major skill fluctuations - has moved up and down solo queue like the right hand of masturbating schoolboy on his erect penis?
