Game News South Park: The Stick of Truth to be released on December 10th

[Tigranes]

I've actively disliked SP whenever I"ve watched it, so I'm looking forward to Obsidian taking on a more interesting project, but we'll see - if the gameplay is solid I could look past the hurr durr setting and give it a go. But I suppose with its audience it's likely theeeeeeeee game will be easiiiiiiiiish.

Fuck my weird bluetooth keyboard.

 

[Metro]

I have to admit to disliking South Park so much at this point I won't bother with this game. But it'll be interesting to see if Obsidian can make something halfway decent.

 

[Zed]

i hope this game rox and they make a sequel

edit: two sequels

 

[Onholyservicebound]

What makes the show funny for me is satire. Most of the episodes revolve around satirical takes on American life and culture. I can understand not liking it for all the lowbrow elements, but it's just not true that those low brow elements are all the show is about.


I'm cautiously optimistic about this game for a few reasons. Obsidian has had forever to work on it, and it sounds like the south park creators had a large influence on the production, and from what I've read it sounds like they're into RPGs and would probably defer to Obsidian on design decisions. Plus it seems like Ubisoft is intentionally trying to avoid discussing the gameplay in their marketing material, which is probaby because they don't expect a traditional RPG to sell well.

It's most of the show, I personally wouldn't watch a show like South Park for social satire, but to each their own. I see it as family guy without flashbacks, pop culture references with lowbrow humour where the creators occasionally use the show as a pulpit for their political beliefs. It's made me laugh and is pretty quotable, but I don't go out of my way to watch it.

All good points, despite not caring for South Park much I hope Obsidian at least delivers on the RPG aspect of the game. I don't expect it to be something amazing given the subject matter, but it could be fun..

 

[Daemongar]

I don't know if I'll buy it or not, but I've noticed a lot of the criticism of SP is thinly veiled annoyance with the creators being conservative, and the shows making fun of PC, Jesse Jackson, Obama, hipsters, liberals, the media, cripples, jews, gays, and everyone else you aren't allowed to make fun of. Criticism of the shows humor you have to take with a grain of salt, as the same diatribes were used against "Team America" when it came out. It's all lowbrow, etc, which was code in the American press for "it doesn't agree with our political views."

Not dismissing anyone who doesn't like the show, it's humor, or any game based off of it. At the same time, there seems to be an unusual focus on the lowbrow while ignoring some infamously powerful moments in the shows history:
* Trapped in the Closet with Tom Cruise
* Cartoon Wars (Prophet Mohammed Episode)
* With appologies to Jesse Jackson (The Wheel of Fortune Episode)
* The China Probrem (Indiana Jones Episode)

Look, a few new alts or whatever chanting "Lowbrow" while ignoring the good seems a little odd.

 

[Arkadin]

Libertarian is a kind of conservative. But southpark also makes fun of Christians, Mormons, American exceptionalism, and the American right. I'm pretty sure everyone who has watched the show at length has been butthurt about something.

 

[Daemongar]

PC Humor: Making fun of Christians, Mormons, American exceptionalism, and the American right
Non PC Humor: Making fun of PC, Jesse Jackson, Obama, l1berals, the media, cripples, jews, gays

 

[Onholyservicebound]

I think I now understand why this website changed the word l1beral to liberal .

 

[jagged-jimmy]

a show that consists mainly of scat humor

It doesn't.

I suppose you're right though, it's also got fart jokes, cock jokes, anal probe jokes, and pop culture references. I was using scat humor broadly to refer to lowbrow humor(with a focus on super funny bodily functions.) , but the latter is definitely a more accurate term.

The thing is, Bro, anyone who actually watched some South Park knows that you're bullshiting the clueless.

Every single thing I mentioned has at the very least an episode or two dedicated to it. That is SP, that is the show where a little boy spent an episode trying to get another little boy to literally lick his balls. It's a gross out, lowbrow show, and most of it's popularity is owed to the fact that it took disgusting to a whole new level.

What makes the show funny for me is satire. Most of the episodes revolve around satirical takes on American life and culture. I can understand not liking it for all the lowbrow elements, but it's just not true that those low brow elements are all the show is about.

If Onholyservicebound needed a more detailed explanation, here it is.

 

[Septaryeth]

It's all lowbrow, etc, which was code in the American press for "it doesn't agree with our political views."

Interesting points about political correct jokes and non-PC jokes, but I'm pretty sure you can have some thing that's lowbrow but also non-political.
The last episode I remembered was the wall mart thing (or something like that), I like the part where people buy stuff simply because those junks are cheap, no matter how useless they are.
But the part where people having diarrhea right after their death? There is no "greater message" behind it. It's just a non-stop poop joke, and that's lowbrow.
Personally I'm okay with it and I finished watching the episode, but I can see why some people find that particular part distasteful and how it overshadowed the good parts.

And speaking of Family Guy, no, Macfarlane is definitely not an "equal offender".

 

[Joni Odin von Hassenstein]

But the part where people having diarrhea right after their death? There is no "greater message" behind it. It's just a non-stop poop joke, and that's lowbrow.

Well, it's not just a poop joke. It's more of a "So unbelieveably stupid and pointless that it's becoming funny again" joke ---> self-irony.
At least that's what I find funny about it.

 

[Daemongar]

I'm not crazy about Family Guy, because some of the jokes and running gags never grabbed me, and I . But I think at SP they go out of their way to be over the top violent, or over the top disgusting, while having their real point buried somewhere n there. The episode with "The China Probrem" also had Cartman and Butters going to PF Changs and some stupid shit with Butters shooting people in the balls, but the real story was the raping of Indiana Jones.

People avoiding the game for one side will miss the other, but people who dismiss the whole show as fart or poop jokes may miss the bigger picture. Underneath all the video game swearing and stupid-ness, there is probably going to be some seriously good stuff.

 

[Hoaxmetal]

Newest episode was great, inspired about recent story of a child who brought a gun to school "because of minecraft".

And not a single fart joke

 

[Tigranes]

Some people don't like South Park because it's offensive. Others don't like it because (1) it's not funny, and (2) it's not insightful. What is a parody or comedy if it does neither?

Anybody who's on the Codex is not going to have a pathological reaction against 'lowbrow' for obvious reasons. It's easy for something like SP to defend itself by arguing that its detractors are highbrow or easily offended or politically predisposed to be offended... but personally, I think those things pale in comparison to the one thing that stands out the most in the actual experience of watching the show: terrible, cringey humour.

(Obviously, that is entirely subjective.)

 

[Castanova]

But the part where people having diarrhea right after their death? There is no "greater message" behind it. It's just a non-stop poop joke, and that's lowbrow.

Well, it's not just a poop joke. It's more of a "So unbelieveably stupid and pointless that it's becoming funny again" joke ---> self-irony.
At least that's what I find funny about it.

Self-irony = Oh shit we need a joke here but we can't think of anything genuinely funny so let's put in the most obvious joke possible, turn it up to 11, and wink while we deliver it.

 

[Onholyservicebound]

Some shit I already responded to.

If Onholyservicebound needed a more detailed explanation, here it is.

But I didn't, I know what the show is about. I never even specifically said I didn't like it, I said that the attempt to have serious commentary is foiled by the fact that the show is a bunch of cringe humor, I'm sure there was a really great point about airlines or something on the episode where everyone is riding bikes that fuck them in the ass, but when somebody asks me about the episode I just watched I probably won't even bother mentioning it. Anyways I haven't watched it consistently since I was a kid(Loved it then), maybe it's trying even harder to be witty now, but I doubt it would be as engaging to me as it is to you. I guess I'm just not willing to eat my way through a heap of shit to get to the prize in the middle(That prize being hilarious jokes about Tom Cruise, jennifer lopez, and scientology.)

I don't like anything by jason friedberg/Aaron seltzer or the wayan brothers either, I'm probably just a prude. If I can say one good thing about South Park it's that it isn't as politically biased as something like Family guy. Despite Daemonger's "comment", the few political things I've seen on south park seemed like they were leaning left, (got to admit I laughed at this video..) and . I'm sure they make fun of liberals too, I just haven't seen it, anyways to reiterate, I am getting this game, and who knows, maybe it will be good in writing as well as gameplay, Will wait and see.

 

[Shannow]

I don't know if I'll buy it or not, but I've noticed a lot of the criticism of SP is thinly veiled annoyance with the creators being conservative, and the shows making fun of PC, Jesse Jackson, Obama, hipsters, liberals, the media, cripples, jews, gays, and everyone else you aren't allowed to make fun of.

Actually it makes fun of "conservative's" prejudices. Yes, all the gay, jew and racial jokes are there to show how stupid people are who actually believe those prejudices. (Or actually makes fun of shits on everything. Be it conservative, liberal or anything else.) Of course your average "conservative" won't notice he's being mocked while he focusses on the poop humor

Anyway, what I take away from this thread is that Obsidian fans believe that OE can produce something good from a "bad" franchise...

 

[Septaryeth]

I don't know if I'll buy it or not, but I've noticed a lot of the criticism of SP is thinly veiled annoyance with the creators being conservative, and the shows making fun of PC, Jesse Jackson, Obama, hipsters, liberals, the media, cripples, jews, gays, and everyone else you aren't allowed to make fun of.

Actually it makes fun of "conservative's" prejudices. Yes, all the gay, jew and racial jokes are there to show how stupid people are who actually believe those prejudices. (Or actually makes fun of shits on everything. Be it conservative, liberal or anything else.) Of course your average "conservative" won't notice he's being mocked while he focusses on the poop humor

Heck...that's another thing. I get the whole "making fun of conservatives by acting like stupid conservatives" thing, but sometime comedy like this push their sarcasm to a level where you're not sure if they're playing some kind of secret sarcasm or just making a plain old racist joke. Just look at the Asian jokes out there for example.

 

[Onholyservicebound]

Oh god the irony.. http://www.tooasian.ca/the-real-mark-wahlberg-a-racist-man

Also, that same fucking joke was used in family guy, same voice and everything.(The washy washy guy or w/e.)

This be funny though:

 

[jagged-jimmy]

Some shit I already responded to.

If Onholyservicebound needed a more detailed explanation, here it is.

But I didn't, I know what the show is about. Anyways I haven't watched it consistently since I was a kid(Loved it then), maybe it's trying even harder to be witty now, but I doubt it would be as engaging to me as it is to you. I guess I'm just not willing to eat my way through a heap of shit to get to the prize in the middle.

There are more shit episodes now than good ones, that is out of question. But the point is, it is not about toilet humor. Social and pop commetary is the focus of the show. Shit humor is just a way of breaking through the limits of what's acceptable in the society and generally fishing for narrow minded hypocrites who jump at the opportunity to critisize the show for that.

 

[Onholyservicebound]

There are more shit episodes now than good ones, that is out of question. But the point is, it is not about toilet humor. Social and pop commetary is the focus of the show. Shit humor is just a way of breaking through the limits of what's acceptable in society and generally fishing for narrow minded hypocrites who jump at the opportunity to critisize the show for that.

South Park is toilet humor with pop culture references, no matter how you cut it. It's got seniority going for it, but generally it's just family guy with a shitty art style and more gross out.

Wow really? This whole time I thought they had that in there because it was entertaining to the writers and their fans, little did I know that everything Matt and Trey have ever done was just an inane attempt at being offensive.

 

[Sunsetspawn]

I don't like anything by jason friedberg/Aaron seltzer or the wayan brothers either, I'm probably just a prude. If I can say one good thing about South Park it's that it isn't as politically biased as something like Family guy. Despite Daemonger's "comment", the few political things I've seen on south park seemed like they were leaning left, (got to admit I laughed at this video..) and . I'm sure they make fun of liberals too, I just haven't seen it, anyways to reiterate, I am getting this game, and who knows, maybe it will be good in writing as well as gameplay, Will wait and see.

This entire post demonstrates that you're not really familiar with South Park or Trey Parker and Matt Stone. You compared a creative team that has won Emmys, Tonys, and received an Oscar nomination with the four biggest hacks on the planet. You also took two clips out of context to support the case for their being wild yetis. At least watch the entire episodes in question so you know if your argument has a leg to stand on, which, by the way, it doesn't. That's your homework assignment.

And as for this game, well, it sure looks like they're going far more lowbrow than the show, but whatever, I'll buy it anyway to support both Obsidian and South Park.

 

[Major_Blackhart]

Southpark is still funny.

 

[Onholyservicebound]

You compared a creative team that has won Emmys, Tonys, and received an Oscar nomination with the four biggest hacks on the planet. You also took two clips out of context to support the case for their being wild yetis. At least watch the entire episodes in question so you know if your argument has a leg to stand on, which, by the way, it doesn't. That's your homework assignment.

And as for this game, well, it sure looks like they're going far more lowbrow than the show, but whatever, I'll buy it anyway to support both Obsidian and South Park.

Sounds like an excruciating assignment, no, I'll take your word for it. You just successfully argued against one of the only pros that I could come up with for the show,

If I can say one good thing about South Park it's that it isn't as politically biased as something like Family guy.

Retracted, respect for the show -10. (Also I lol'd at your using awards as an argument,

)

 

[Major_Blackhart]

Anyone who says South Park and Family Guy are similar shows should fucking kill themselves.