Star Wars: The Old Republic will kill WoW - outsourced to Broadsword

[Grunker]

(Ultima IX, DX:IW and TDS)

all of these games would be insanely horrible no matter the engine, you're basically proving angthoron's point with those examples

False. If you read about the long and storied development history of Ultima IX, it's obvious that they had to chop the game up because of engine limitations and technological overreach.

Yeah, I'm sure the awful writing is totally engine-related...

 

[Infinitron]

(Ultima IX, DX:IW and TDS)

all of these games would be insanely horrible no matter the engine, you're basically proving angthoron's point with those examples

False. If you read about the long and storied development history of Ultima IX, it's obvious that they had to chop the game up because of engine limitations and technological overreach.

Yeah, I'm sure the awful writing is totally engine-related...

The writing is awful because they had to keep chopping up the plot and rerecording their voice acting. Things had to be kept as simple as possible so they could be moved around.

The game actually had entirely different writing and a different cast of voice actors at one point.

 

[Kane]

The game actually had entirely different writing and a different cast of voice actors at one point.

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I heard about that too but I put that down as propaganda, just like these screenshots by 38 studios.

 

[Black]

The game actually had entirely different writing and a different cast of voice actors at one point.

I heard about that too but I put that down as propaganda, just like these screenshots by 38 studios.[/quote]
Naw, it's true. There is or was a cutscene in which an npc changes her voice actor in the middle of her dialogue.

 

[Infinitron]

Read my first post on the Codex. Bob White tells it all.

It's not propaganda - these things were only whispered about for many years, until recently some former Origin developers started coming out of the woodwork to tell their stories.

 

[Angthoron]

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/10/03/daniel-erickson-leaves-bioware/

A few weeks ago Star Wars: The Old Republic's lead designer, Daniel Erickson, sparked some rumors by adding the phrase "actively looking for new opportunities" to his LinkedIn profile. A tweet today made his split with the company official, bringing seven years of being at BioWare to a close.

Erickson joins former executive producer Rich Vogel and BioWare founders Dr. Ray Muzyka and Dr. Greg Zeschuk as big names leaving the company in the last handful of months. Of course, that's just people leaving voluntarily -- the company saw substantial layoffs in summer due to refining and restructuring.

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/10/03/daniel-erickson-leaves-bioware/

A few weeks ago Star Wars: The Old Republic's lead designer, Daniel Erickson, sparked some rumors by adding the phrase "actively looking for new opportunities" to his LinkedIn profile. A tweet today made his split with the company official, bringing seven years of being at BioWare to a close.

Erickson joins former executive producer Rich Vogel and BioWare founders Dr. Ray Muzyka and Dr. Greg Zeschuk as big names leaving the company in the last handful of months. Of course, that's just people leaving voluntarily -- the company saw substantial layoffs in summer due to refining and restructuring.

Now every Codexer has to answer this question completely honestly:

Is your dick getting hard over these developments?

 

[Kane]

The real question we have to answer here is why we have three threads about the same topic and all why do all three of them contain the same posts?

 

[Angthoron]

The real question we have to answer here is why we have three threads about the same topic and all why do all three of them contain the same posts?

Lies, I only cross-posted in two.

 

[Kane]

The real question we have to answer here is why we have three threads about the same topic and all why do all three of them contain the same posts?

Lies, I only cross-posted in two.

then it's 4 threads.

 

[Angthoron]

The real question we have to answer here is why we have three threads about the same topic and all why do all three of them contain the same posts?

Lies, I only cross-posted in two.

then it's 4 threads.

It is, yeah. Wouldn't mind some merging, myself.

 

[Kane]

 

[Average Manatee]

TOR became shit as soon as someone had the idea of Bioware game + MMO. MMOs are made for people who like to grind forever to get phat lewt and uber stats. Biotards get confused by numbers and just want to have a romance novel that doesn't require reading. These two player bases couldn't be further apart.

Should be subtitled: Even idiots get smarter when you start asking them to pay $15 a month to play your shit.

 

[RK47]

Should be subtitled: Even idiots get smarter when you start asking them to pay $15 a month to play your shit.

That's the real reason right there.
With the availability of cheaper games once they are past their release dates, even though Single Player games has limited re-playability, it will have fresher content if you kept buying up those discount releases at $10-20 during digital sales instead of subbing on the said MMO on a monthly basis.

Then there's F2P MMOs that discourage people from spending big money on new MMO release for a free look and see.

 

[Jaesun]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-10-18-bioware-reveals-swtor-free-to-play-restrictions

 

[felipepepe]

• Have limited character creation options
• Be restricted to three Warzones (PVP matches), three Flashpoints (dungeons) and three Space Missions (spaceship combat) a week
• Not be able to take part in Operations (raids)
• Not be able to equip purple artifact-quality items
• Be restricted to five field revivals
• Not get priority space in server log-in queues
• Have a longer cooldown for Quick Travel
• Not have access to Emergency Fleet Pass

Lol, forbiddin free players to equip epic itens is just retarded... one thing is pay-to-win, the other is don't-win-unless-you-pay...

 

[ohWOW]

I wonder when they will close the servers.

This year?

 

[Erzherzog]

For no good reason all I can think of is Star Wars Galaxies. Was that ever free to play or was there just that demo?

What did LucasArts think of a FtP business model then?

"[T]hat model just isn't financially viable,"

Really puts it all in perspective.

http://kotaku.com/5821911/free to play-star-wars-galaxies-cannot-make-a-change-of-this-magnitude

 

[felipepepe]

I think even BioWare knows the FTP won't amass into anything, it's just one of those corporate moves to please shareholders, manipulate fiscal year results and pretend they know what they are doing.

 

[Emily]

That is not a free to play at all. It is more of an extended trial

 

[Jaesun]

And yet people continue to play Star Trek Online. You would think they could figure it out.

 

[Harold]

Are there any romance is TOR? I hear it's a story-driven MMO (whatever that means). If there are, and they restrict them only to paying customers, they might still be able to get back some of the wasted jewgold.

 

[DraQ]

(whatever that means)

The key to understanding TOR.

 

[Drakron]

And yet people continue to play Star Trek Online. You would think they could figure it out.

They dont really, the amount of restrictions just makes me go LOL and they are shooting themselves in the foot by not allowing F2P to actually being able to PvP or participate in group instances ... the payers will find out they will be in a situation they want to do something but oh, there are not enough people to actually do it.

The whole purpose of F2P is to inject new people into the game, what EA just did is offering a extended trial and to put up a cash store in the game to milk the Elitist Subscribers that will continue to see the ship sinking and people bailing, this is what I was expecting from EA and BioWare ... being utter clueless to what the problem is.

Six months from now the game will be in a even worst shape.

 

[~RAGING BONER~]

lol TOR...this is truly the Titanic of MMO's