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Starfield Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

Spectacle

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What, You can have a much better rig with that price.

A rig with SLI, last gen Ryzen CPU, 32 GB ram, 2x RTX 4090, already assembled

You didn't get a good deal, mate.

See here: link + buy a spare 4090.
SLI is dead, bro. No 4000 series card has a SLI connector.
 

Yosharian

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What, You can have a much better rig with that price.

A rig with SLI, last gen Ryzen CPU, 32 GB ram, 2x RTX 4090, already assembled

You didn't get a good deal, mate.

See here: link + buy a spare 4090.
I don't think you read my breakdown, here I'll post it again so that you can try to read it this time:

CPU: 7800X3D (£454) & Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360 (£92)
RAM: G.Skill Trident 32GB 6000MHz CL30-38-38-96 (£168)
PSU: Corsair HX850 80 Plus Platinum Modular (£151)
SSD: 2x Samsung 970 Evo 2TB, 2x Sabrent Rocket 1TB, 1x Crucial MX500 1TB (£617)
GPU: Gigabyte RTX 3080 Gaming OC 10GB (£729) (bought at release)
MOBO: Asus ROG STRIX X670E-A (£380)
CASE: Phanteks Eclipse P600S & ARCTIC BioniX F140 (£155)
AUDIO: Audio-GD NFB-11.28 DAC & Marantz PM6006 Amp & Monitor Audio Bronze 2 (£824)
MONITORS: AW3423DW (£1011) & 2x AOC 24G2U5/BK (£300)
PERIPHERALS: Keyboardio M100 (£242) & Qpad 8K (£50) & Kinesis Savant Elite2 (£163)
 

Kiste

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So the actual PC was like 2750, the rest is peripherals, monitors and audio shit.

"Hey, I just hooked my 50,000$ Sennheiser Orpheus up to my PC. Look at my epic 52,000$ PC gaming rig!"

 

Ryzer

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What, You can have a much better rig with that price.

A rig with SLI, last gen Ryzen CPU, 32 GB ram, 2x RTX 4090, already assembled

You didn't get a good deal, mate.

See here: link + buy a spare 4090.
I don't think you read my breakdown, here I'll post it again so that you can try to read it this time:

CPU: 7800X3D (£454) & Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360 (£92)
RAM: G.Skill Trident 32GB 6000MHz CL30-38-38-96 (£168)
PSU: Corsair HX850 80 Plus Platinum Modular (£151)
SSD: 2x Samsung 970 Evo 2TB, 2x Sabrent Rocket 1TB, 1x Crucial MX500 1TB (£617)
GPU: Gigabyte RTX 3080 Gaming OC 10GB (£729) (bought at release)
MOBO: Asus ROG STRIX X670E-A (£380)
CASE: Phanteks Eclipse P600S & ARCTIC BioniX F140 (£155)
AUDIO: Audio-GD NFB-11.28 DAC & Marantz PM6006 Amp & Monitor Audio Bronze 2 (£824)
MONITORS: AW3423DW (£1011) & 2x AOC 24G2U5/BK (£300)
PERIPHERALS: Keyboardio M100 (£242) & Qpad 8K (£50) & Kinesis Savant Elite2 (£163)
My point is that it's very expensive what you paid for (and probably more expensive what it really cost).

No offense intended.
 

Yosharian

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What, You can have a much better rig with that price.

A rig with SLI, last gen Ryzen CPU, 32 GB ram, 2x RTX 4090, already assembled

You didn't get a good deal, mate.

See here: link + buy a spare 4090.
I don't think you read my breakdown, here I'll post it again so that you can try to read it this time:

CPU: 7800X3D (£454) & Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360 (£92)
RAM: G.Skill Trident 32GB 6000MHz CL30-38-38-96 (£168)
PSU: Corsair HX850 80 Plus Platinum Modular (£151)
SSD: 2x Samsung 970 Evo 2TB, 2x Sabrent Rocket 1TB, 1x Crucial MX500 1TB (£617)
GPU: Gigabyte RTX 3080 Gaming OC 10GB (£729) (bought at release)
MOBO: Asus ROG STRIX X670E-A (£380)
CASE: Phanteks Eclipse P600S & ARCTIC BioniX F140 (£155)
AUDIO: Audio-GD NFB-11.28 DAC & Marantz PM6006 Amp & Monitor Audio Bronze 2 (£824)
MONITORS: AW3423DW (£1011) & 2x AOC 24G2U5/BK (£300)
PERIPHERALS: Keyboardio M100 (£242) & Qpad 8K (£50) & Kinesis Savant Elite2 (£163)
My point is that it's very expensive what you paid for (and probably more expensive what it really cost).

No offense intended.
The build you posted includes:

CPU: 7900X3D (lol)
RAM: 4800MHz RAM (no brand listed? lmao) Edit: nvm you can see the brand upon clicking it I realised, but 4800MHz is still really bad for this processor, and what are the timings? embarrassing.
MOBO: seems fine I guess
PSU: it's a good one
CASE: quiet cases are shit, always go for mesh airflow ones
GPU: a 4090 but no brand listed? could be a terrible brand lol
SSD: 2TB decent one
Cooling: corsair ... what, exactly? An iCUE maybe?

Total cost: £3,172

THe build I posted:

CPU: 7800X3D (£454) & Arctic cooler (£92)
RAM: G.Skill Trident 32GB 6000MHz CL30-38-38-96 (£168)
PSU: Corsair HX850 80 Plus Platinum Modular (£151)
SSD: Samsung 970 Evo 1TB (£110)
GPU: Gigabyte RTX 3080 Gaming OC 10GB (£729) (bought at release)
MOBO: Asus ROG STRIX X670E-A (£380)
CASE: Phanteks Eclipse P600S & ARCTIC BioniX F140 (£155)

Total cost: £2239 (+£60 for my buddy to put it together because I'm useless with water cooling)

All I did on top of what you posted was add lots of stuff that I wanted such as audiophile gear and an expensive monitor. That stuff is optional. Your build isn't better just because it doesn't have that stuff. You understand? If you switched out my 3080 (which I bought ON RELEASE) for a 4090 at today's prices it would only be £771 more which would bring the cost of my build to £3010, which is still less than your shitty premade rip-off build. Which doesn't even include a monitor, which made up a huge portion of the final cost I posted.

Which by the way has shitty RAM and a really bad value processor, not to mention a shit case and worse water cooling. Not to mention pre-builts are usually fucking awful quality and often arrive broken or malfunctioning in some way. So please don't attempt to educate others on their build choices when you don't have a fucking clue.
 
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Yosharian

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So the actual PC was like 2750, the rest is peripherals, monitors and audio shit.

"Hey, I just hooked my 50,000$ Sennheiser Orpheus up to my PC. Look at my epic 52,000$ PC gaming rig!"

That's what I was trying to explain to him but some people can't fucking read apparently

Anyway yeah I have spent stupid amounts on the audio and the monitor. Which aren't necessary at all, but I make bad purchasing decisions.

All I need now is for Todd to supply the gaming crack and I will never have to leave my apartment ever again

What's sad is that I have started to go slightly deaf in my left ear so all this audiophile stuff is at least half wasted on me, getting old fucking sucks :cry:
 

Mortmal

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I used to spend a good amount of my pay on computer upgrades or whole new systems so I could play all the latest games. I always had the highest end PC that I could afford at the time. But around 10 years ago after so many disappointing games that didn't live up to their hype I started to realize how much of a swindle gaming has become.

It makes no difference if you have a $2000 PC or a $4000 monster. The games are fucking shit.
Last time I upgraded, it wasn't even for the top-of-the-line PC. It was because Red Dead Redemption 2 was not running at its maximum settings. But after that game, there was nothing nearly as demanding in terms of PC specifications. That was at the end of 2018. Now, there's only one game that may not run smoothly: Starfield. There's no guarantee it will be good, and there's no guarantee it will even perform well on a high-end rig either.

The next game I am likely going to play after that is the next Underail game or Colony Ship, both with ridiculously low specs, or something like Zorbus.
 

Ryzer

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Ok anyway so moving on with the rest of our lives now, check out this EPIC BREAKDOWN VIDEO on the factions in Starfield!


The game is not even released, what's the point of posting this shitty video?

It's all gossip from a random.

Anyway, snowflake ignored me for doubting his hubris. What a weak individual.
 

tritosine2k

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I suppose he goes for framerate. But that's a losing proposition too


PC was always wasteful, surround setups and eyefinity was pinnacle of it, but rendering even 2 million pixels for fullhd is wasteful vs. eye tracked wearable(?) like PSVR because pixel complexity went up so much.
So all in one mobile stuff can easily win now.
 

BruceVC

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What, You can have a much better rig with that price.

A rig with SLI, last gen Ryzen CPU, 32 GB ram, 2x RTX 4090, already assembled

You didn't get a good deal, mate.

See here: link + buy a spare 4090.
I don't think you read my breakdown, here I'll post it again so that you can try to read it this time:

CPU: 7800X3D (£454) & Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360 (£92)
RAM: G.Skill Trident 32GB 6000MHz CL30-38-38-96 (£168)
PSU: Corsair HX850 80 Plus Platinum Modular (£151)
SSD: 2x Samsung 970 Evo 2TB, 2x Sabrent Rocket 1TB, 1x Crucial MX500 1TB (£617)
GPU: Gigabyte RTX 3080 Gaming OC 10GB (£729) (bought at release)
MOBO: Asus ROG STRIX X670E-A (£380)
CASE: Phanteks Eclipse P600S & ARCTIC BioniX F140 (£155)
AUDIO: Audio-GD NFB-11.28 DAC & Marantz PM6006 Amp & Monitor Audio Bronze 2 (£824)
MONITORS: AW3423DW (£1011) & 2x AOC 24G2U5/BK (£300)
PERIPHERALS: Keyboardio M100 (£242) & Qpad 8K (£50) & Kinesis Savant Elite2 (£163)
My point is that it's very expensive what you paid for (and probably more expensive what it really cost).

No offense intended.
The build you posted includes:

CPU: 7900X3D (lol)
RAM: 4800MHz RAM (no brand listed? lmao) Edit: nvm you can see the brand upon clicking it I realised, but 4800MHz is still really bad for this processor, and what are the timings? embarrassing.
MOBO: seems fine I guess
PSU: it's a good one
CASE: quiet cases are shit, always go for mesh airflow ones
GPU: a 4090 but no brand listed? could be a terrible brand lol
SSD: 2TB decent one
Cooling: corsair ... what, exactly? An iCUE maybe?

Total cost: £3,172

THe build I posted:

CPU: 7800X3D (£454) & Arctic cooler (£92)
RAM: G.Skill Trident 32GB 6000MHz CL30-38-38-96 (£168)
PSU: Corsair HX850 80 Plus Platinum Modular (£151)
SSD: Samsung 970 Evo 1TB (£110)
GPU: Gigabyte RTX 3080 Gaming OC 10GB (£729) (bought at release)
MOBO: Asus ROG STRIX X670E-A (£380)
CASE: Phanteks Eclipse P600S & ARCTIC BioniX F140 (£155)

Total cost: £2239 (+£60 for my buddy to put it together because I'm useless with water cooling)

All I did on top of what you posted was add lots of stuff that I wanted such as audiophile gear and an expensive monitor. That stuff is optional. Your build isn't better just because it doesn't have that stuff. You understand? If you switched out my 3080 (which I bought ON RELEASE) for a 4090 at today's prices it would only be £771 more which would bring the cost of my build to £3010, which is still less than your shitty premade rip-off build. Which doesn't even include a monitor, which made up a huge portion of the final cost I posted.

Which by the way has shitty RAM and a really bad value processor, not to mention a shit case and worse water cooling. Not to mention pre-builts are usually fucking awful quality and often arrive broken or malfunctioning in some way. So please don't attempt to educate others on their build choices when you don't have a fucking clue.?
Thats a fantastic rig, do you really want it? Why dont you give to me as a present then no one can question how much you spent?
 

ropetight

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This actually makes sense: PS and XBOX are both based on AMD GPU's.
Since Starfield will be console first game, you must optimize game for your most precious clientele.
CDPR fucked this up with C2077, Bethesda is more experienced.
 

Yosharian

Arcane
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Messages
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What, You can have a much better rig with that price.

A rig with SLI, last gen Ryzen CPU, 32 GB ram, 2x RTX 4090, already assembled

You didn't get a good deal, mate.

See here: link + buy a spare 4090.
I don't think you read my breakdown, here I'll post it again so that you can try to read it this time:

CPU: 7800X3D (£454) & Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360 (£92)
RAM: G.Skill Trident 32GB 6000MHz CL30-38-38-96 (£168)
PSU: Corsair HX850 80 Plus Platinum Modular (£151)
SSD: 2x Samsung 970 Evo 2TB, 2x Sabrent Rocket 1TB, 1x Crucial MX500 1TB (£617)
GPU: Gigabyte RTX 3080 Gaming OC 10GB (£729) (bought at release)
MOBO: Asus ROG STRIX X670E-A (£380)
CASE: Phanteks Eclipse P600S & ARCTIC BioniX F140 (£155)
AUDIO: Audio-GD NFB-11.28 DAC & Marantz PM6006 Amp & Monitor Audio Bronze 2 (£824)
MONITORS: AW3423DW (£1011) & 2x AOC 24G2U5/BK (£300)
PERIPHERALS: Keyboardio M100 (£242) & Qpad 8K (£50) & Kinesis Savant Elite2 (£163)
My point is that it's very expensive what you paid for (and probably more expensive what it really cost).

No offense intended.
The build you posted includes:

CPU: 7900X3D (lol)
RAM: 4800MHz RAM (no brand listed? lmao) Edit: nvm you can see the brand upon clicking it I realised, but 4800MHz is still really bad for this processor, and what are the timings? embarrassing.
MOBO: seems fine I guess
PSU: it's a good one
CASE: quiet cases are shit, always go for mesh airflow ones
GPU: a 4090 but no brand listed? could be a terrible brand lol
SSD: 2TB decent one
Cooling: corsair ... what, exactly? An iCUE maybe?

Total cost: £3,172

THe build I posted:

CPU: 7800X3D (£454) & Arctic cooler (£92)
RAM: G.Skill Trident 32GB 6000MHz CL30-38-38-96 (£168)
PSU: Corsair HX850 80 Plus Platinum Modular (£151)
SSD: Samsung 970 Evo 1TB (£110)
GPU: Gigabyte RTX 3080 Gaming OC 10GB (£729) (bought at release)
MOBO: Asus ROG STRIX X670E-A (£380)
CASE: Phanteks Eclipse P600S & ARCTIC BioniX F140 (£155)

Total cost: £2239 (+£60 for my buddy to put it together because I'm useless with water cooling)

All I did on top of what you posted was add lots of stuff that I wanted such as audiophile gear and an expensive monitor. That stuff is optional. Your build isn't better just because it doesn't have that stuff. You understand? If you switched out my 3080 (which I bought ON RELEASE) for a 4090 at today's prices it would only be £771 more which would bring the cost of my build to £3010, which is still less than your shitty premade rip-off build. Which doesn't even include a monitor, which made up a huge portion of the final cost I posted.

Which by the way has shitty RAM and a really bad value processor, not to mention a shit case and worse water cooling. Not to mention pre-builts are usually fucking awful quality and often arrive broken or malfunctioning in some way. So please don't attempt to educate others on their build choices when you don't have a fucking clue.?
Thats a fantastic rig, do you really want it? Why dont you give to me as a present then no one can question how much you spent?
Are you an attractive blonde female with big tits & ass?
 

Yosharian

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This actually makes sense: PS and XBOX are both based on AMD GPU's.
Since Starfield will be console first game, you must optimize game for your most precious clientele.
CDPR fucked this up with C2077, Bethesda is more experienced.
Optimising for AMD is fine, not allowing the devs to implement DLSS because you paid them protection money is anti-consumer
 

ropetight

Savant
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Messages
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This actually makes sense: PS and XBOX are both based on AMD GPU's.
Since Starfield will be console first game, you must optimize game for your most precious clientele.
CDPR fucked this up with C2077, Bethesda is more experienced.
Optimising for AMD is fine, not allowing the devs to implement DLSS because you paid them protection money is anti-consumer
It is anti-consumer, no doubt, and it is not first time this happens.
I think that nVidia also clashes with Microsoft and Intel on AI hardware market, so that could influence this "decision" also.
 

tritosine2k

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Messages
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DLSS = super sampling = getting away with less pixels to maintain pixel complexity.

But in reality you mostly get away with less pixels not because of SS ingenuity but because displays suck hard with tiny FOV, jiggly fps, and pseudo HDR.
 

Mortmal

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Messages
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I guess that settles the DLSS question.

yes FSR 2 on cpu/gpu Ryzen/Radeon 7000 . Well played from AMD, now it's worth considering getting their , less expensive, top cards instead when building a new rig. For anything else outside gaming nvidia is better.
 

EvilWolf

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I guess that settles the DLSS question.

yes FSR 2 on cpu/gpu Ryzen/Radeon 7000 . Well played from AMD, now it's worth considering getting their , less expensive, top cards instead when building a new rig. For anything else outside gaming nvidia is better.

I can't wait for this RTX/DLSS meme to end. Nvidia just gets to laugh their asses off while morons, incapable of basic math, continue to slop up their shit. The 6 gorillion dollar 4090 is only 100% better than the 1080 ti. THREE generations, and a power bracket, back. That's just embarassing. We need to go back to the time when AMD and Nvidia were at each other's throats and each generation was 70% better than the last. Competition breeds innovation.
 

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