Starfield Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[soutaiseiriron]

^ This user is a 1080ptard, do not listen to him. Upscalers are free performance at 1440p and beyond, and boomer grognards who haven't played a new release since 2007 hate this one simple fact!

 

[undecaf]

This is te second game I plan on going blind in at the end of the year.

Although the whole premise sounds a bit dull… Skyrim + No Man’s Sky + Bethesdas story…

Meh. Writing this, maybe I’ll wait for spring on this one afterall.

Doesn’t sound like too much fun even blind.

 

[Ulysa]

Looks like is going to be shit.
*notpreorderingnotpreordering*

 

[Caim]

Lmao why is it so difficult for people to not buy this.

 

[perfectslumbers]

At least pay 14 bucks for gamepass instead of spending 90 dollars on it.

 

[Butter]

Lmao why is it so difficult for people to not buy this.

Even if you're a Bethesda fan, you know damn well it's going to need dozens of mods that won't exist for months after the game's launch. The idea of D1P or pre-ordering a Bethesda game is fucking ridiculous.

It's a really competitive category, but I think this is going to be one of their worst games. It lacks the thing that all of their other games fall back on when the stories and mechanics are shit: a good hand-crafted world. Instead you're supposed to get high on wandering around empty procedurally generated rock planet #82.

 

[Caim]

At least pay 14 bucks for gamepass

Even bigger lmao.

 

[soutaiseiriron]

Even if you're a Bethesda fan, you know damn well it's going to need dozens of mods that won't exist for months after the game's launch. The idea of D1P or pre-ordering a Bethesda game is fucking ridiculous.

I played Fallout 4 on launch and it was fine. Fallout 4 is still Fallout 4, in all its bullet spongy glory, but I don't think bugs were my problem.

Instead you're supposed to get high on wandering around empty procedurally generated rock planet #82.

That's a risk, but you literally can't know until it's out. Todd did talk about clearly segmenting generated and handmade content, and I'm willing to trust him, I think their designers have it in their mind to know that they shouldn't put it as part of the core gameplay loop.
I'm sure that when Fallout 4 had its showcase people mentioned "being forced to play Minecraft instead of questing" or some shit like that, and yet Fallout 4 came out and you didn't have to touch the settlement system at all except for building that teleporter at the end.

 

[M. AQVILA]

Whoever buys this has lost the right to complain about Baldur's Gate III purchasers.

Is this cope for people who bought the most degenerate game I've ever seen in my entire life?

 

[mediocrepoet]

Todd did talk ... I'm willing to trust him

Yeah, that usually ends well.

 

[antimeridian]

I'm sure that when Fallout 4 had its showcase people mentioned "being forced to play Minecraft instead of questing" or some shit like that, and yet Fallout 4 came out and you didn't have to touch the settlement system at all except for building that teleporter at the end.

Very good point. Also worth mentioning that Fallout 4 received a solid "survival mode" that is my favorite way to play the game, and it made the settlements system useful and rewarding to engage with rather than a superfluous time waster. It would be nice if Starfield has a similar mode that asks the player to engage with mechanics that might otherwise feel tacked-on, like some of the procedural and base-building stuff could be.

 

[Abu Antar]

Whoever buys this has lost the right to complain about Baldur's Gate III purchasers.

Is this cope for people who bought the most degenerate game I've ever seen in my entire life?

Not at all. I am playing, and enjoying Baldur's Gate III. I will buy Starfield in one year.

 

[GhostCow]

^ This user is a 1080ptard, do not listen to him. Upscalers are free performance at 1440p and beyond, and boomer grognards who haven't played a new release since 2007 hate this one simple fact!

It's not free performance. You are sacrificing quality for higher frame rates, which is a retard move. Don't buy a high resolution monitor if you're too much of a poorfag to afford a GPU that can run it at the native resolution.

I can't believe how many people have fallen for the marketing and think it's free performance, or worse, think it's a better way to do AA.

 

[Elthosian]

^ This user is a 1080ptard, do not listen to him. Upscalers are free performance at 1440p and beyond, and boomer grognards who haven't played a new release since 2007 hate this one simple fact!

It's not free performance. You are sacrificing quality for higher frame rates, which is a retard move. Don't buy a high resolution monitor if you're too much of a poorfag to afford a GPU that can run it at the native resolution.

I can't believe how many people have fallen for the marketing and think it's free performance, or worse, think it's a better way to do AA.

You know that there are plenty of reasons to have a high-resolution monitor or TV aside from gaming, right?

I have a 3090 and I still turn DLSS on most of the time to get closer to 120 FPS. I'm not on board with NVIDIA selling it as free performance while offering worse GPUs but it's a very convenient tool. And no, the difference is not even that noticeable.

 

[Child of Malkav]

I mean....doesn't higher FPS > general high res graphics?
Get a high FPS and if your GPU can also do higher res then that's a bonus.

 

[Silverfish]

Lmao why is it so difficult for people to not buy this.

You can't look at Pillars and Baldur's Gate 3 and think that anyone in this sphere has any sort of impulse control.

 

[soutaiseiriron]

You are sacrificing quality for higher frame rates

People have been sacrificing quality for higher frame rates since the dawn of 3D rendering. What makes an upscaler bad in this instance?

Don't buy a high resolution monitor if you're too much of a poorfag to afford a GPU that can run it at the native resolution.

There's effectively zero IQ impact compared to native at 4K, it literally is free performance because you're already upscaling from such a high base resolution. At 1440p the better upscalers offer free effectively performance at higher settings. There's benefits to a higher resolution display beyond just gaming, and somebody might play their older titles at a higher resolution or supersampled, and newer ones with an upscaler or lower than native.

think it's a better way to do AA.

Compared to most developer TAA implementations? It is. MSAA is just bruteforcing image quality instead of being smart about it, good modern TAA and the upscalers beat it while being more efficient.

 

[Crispy]

SPEAKING OF BALDUR'S GATE 3 HURRRRRRRR it actually looks *sharper* with DLSS enabled than when not. It also runs probably 30% faster, or more.

 

[Elthosian]

SPEAKING OF BALDUR'S GATE 3 HURRRRRRRR it actually looks *sharper* with DLSS enabled than when not. It also runs probably 30% faster, or more.

I find the DLAA mode provides slightly sharper results but not enough to warrant missing on the extra frames.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

On one hand, I'd like to play Starfield sooner rather than later while waiting for BG3 to get patched. On the other hand, Starfield will probably be much more buggy on release. Then again, storywise, I'm guessing that Starfield's narrative C&C will be much less prominent and hence bugs won't be as much of an annoyance in that department for Starfield.

 

[Kem0sabe]

SPEAKING OF BALDUR'S GATE 3 HURRRRRRRR it actually looks *sharper* with DLSS enabled than when not. It also runs probably 30% faster, or more.

I had an rx580 from AMD when I bought BG3, then this week my brother gave me his "old" Nvidia 3070. The performance difference is massive, and if I turn DLSS on, its even better with no apparent fidelity impact. Compared to BG3's implementation of AMD's FSR, its night and day, with FSR on I had significant ghosting problems.

Another thing Nvidia does better is AA, with DLAA, much less blurry than other AA settings.

 

[General Disarray]

On one hand, I'd like to play Starfield sooner rather than later while waiting for BG3 to get patched. On the other hand, Starfield will probably be much more buggy on release. Then again, storywise, I'm guessing that Starfield's narrative C&C will be much less prominent and hence bugs won't be as much of an annoyance in that department for Starfield.

Those games are just fillers until the 1.7 patch and phantom liberty when they unfuck Cyberpunk. Like removing armor from cloths and other similar no brain fixes. Of course you will have to wait a while for the modding community to catch up as well.

 

[ropetight]

On one hand, I'd like to play Starfield sooner rather than later while waiting for BG3 to get patched. On the other hand, Starfield will probably be much more buggy on release. Then again, storywise, I'm guessing that Starfield's narrative C&C will be much less prominent and hence bugs won't be as much of an annoyance in that department for Starfield.

Those games are just fillers until the 1.7 patch and phantom liberty when they unfuck Cyberpunk. Like removing armor from cloths and other similar no brain fixes. Of course you will have to wait a while for the modding community to catch up as well.

Wait will be longer though.
At least until 1.73 to unfuck the unfucking.
Since CDPR changed whole game, probably longer.
With mods supporting it properly Q2 2024 is not unreasonable.

 

[Just Locus]

So, Starfield's Main Menu leaked, looks pretty much identical to Fallout 4 and Fallout 76's main menu.

 

[Moink]

Lot of stuff seems to have leaked including achievements and the OST.