Starfield Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Reinhardt]

Meh, I think I'm going to hang off on this, wait for Loverslab to get on the case so I can have my harem of sexy rocket chicks

fucking Mission on the Millennium Falcon amirite

You do know she's 14 right?

it's actually very old in animal years.

 

[Ryzer]

So in resume this game:
> each planet is a vast empty landscape with one settlement worth visiting and maybe 2-3 mobs
> quests are banal, boring and shit
> story is shit
> NPCs are hideous
> Space travel is atrocious
> loading screen for everything
> 108GB
> gunplay was already shit in 2013
> can't even swim
> can't even infiltrate spaceships, you traverse through it.

This trash is not even worth pirating and plaguing your pc.

 

[Lemming42]

When you reach a city, approach security guards and stand still. Stay next to them until they've finished reading out their rumour bark.

too much of a cheese, are there no bartenders you can ask for rumours instead?

You can ask bartenders for rumours, but a couple of them just have generic flavour text rather than actual quests. The security people are far and away the quickest and most expansive way I've found to get new quests, and it's definitely what the devs intended.

With the cities being so vast and so populated with generic NPCs, I think you pretty much have to use the security guards, unless you want to individually approach hundreds of NPCs to try and search for the one or two that are actually interactive.

 

[Be Kind Rewind]

Game is supposed to be far into future. That's how humanity will look like so it's not immersion breaking.

Niggers can't into space, so if we're doing realism arguments then the game should be filled with Chinese people, with a token Serb, Rus and German. Every single nigger would have been wiped out when Earth was destroyed, total nigger death.

Poor nazi realizing the future left him behind

Say your mantra Braunken: the future is shemale. And regrettably turd brown, obese and ugly, just like you, at least it will be if team kike wins again and the Russia-Chinese axis falls. Receive progressive Canadian healthcare, join the 40%, improve the future today.

 

[Reinhardt]

so most important question - are giant spiders in the game and how big they are?

 

[Readher]

Tips for people stuck in the boring first ten hours who want to get into the better parts fast:
- After you join Constellation and maybe recruit Sarah, leave New Atlantis. There's nothing of worth there
- Head into unexplored systems and see what you find. Wait about ten seconds after arrival to see if anyone hails you. These sidequests are fun and often give you good weapons
- When you reach a city, approach security guards and stand still. Stay next to them until they've finished reading out their rumour bark. You very often get tipped off to sidequests and interesting things this way, which are automatically added to your journal
- Join a faction. I joined the Rangers (you can get recruited on Cowboy World). This gives you a constant stream of quests and also allows you to start meeting actual characters

If you liked previous Bethesda games, there is one here, it's just scattershot as fuck and instead of the content being concentrated in a small worldspace like MW/Oblivion/Fo3/Skyrim, it's all over a big empty galaxy and you've got to go actively looking for it yourself. When you build up a network of discovered planets to fast travel to and from, the flow of gameplay starts to feel a bit more like Skyrim.

Neon is also a great spot to go. It's crowded, nice looking, has a ton of quests, faction storyline (Ryujin). I've been on it for like 8 hours without leaving.

 

[Be Kind Rewind]

Space travel is atrocious

There isn't really any space travel, you get teleported to a skybox with the planet when you are in "space" with your ship and then when you "land" you can get a procedurally generated tiny fishbowl that you are then teleported to. You don't actually go anywhere.

 

[Vic]

> each planet is a vast empty landscape with one settlement worth visiting and maybe 2-3 mobs

No, it has procedurally generated structures which can be caves, abandoned buildings, landmarks, etc. There are quite a few on each planet. All generic of course but offer loot, xp and combat. The landscape between those POIs are stocked with plants, minerals and animals which you can harvest/kill for resources and xp.

The main gimmick of exploration is the scanner. You have to scan a dozen or so of each life form (without perks) to get 100% completion. Each time you get an xp bonus and a little icon showing you've scanned all. I think it's pretty pointless tbh.

> NPCs are hideous

The randomly generated NPCs absolutely are. Handmade NPCs look decent. Actually, even the NPCs you find while exploring that give you quests and such look good.

> Space travel is atrocious

There really is no active space travel. You basically fast travel to other planets and get a little cutscene of the grav drive opening, or just flying if it's in the same solar system. It does feel unfinished because you can't dive under water and there is no real space travel. I hope they will add all that stuff in later updates.

> loading screen for everything

You only get loading screens when you enter indoor locations, including your ship or if you fast travel. If you are in New Atlantis you can walk in any direction exploring the procgenned landscape and not encounter a loading screen for hours, unless you find a dungeon.

 

[Ryzer]

I haven't find any new form of intelligent alien having spaceships or settlements in the game at all, it's bland and uninspired in every corners.

Seriously, why playing this game when you can play Space Rangers2?

 

[InD_ImaginE]

so most important question - are giant spiders in the game and how big they are?

you can meet one that's 1 person tall and like 2 persons wide like 1 hour into the game that ass rape you while spitting hallucinogenic spit at you telling your Mom hates you and you gonna fail to fight the spider.

One of the few handcrafted content of the game and is pretty good

 

[Be Kind Rewind]

I missed that he posted more of his thoughts in the comments, apparently his wife or daughter was playing No Man's Sky nearby and it must have rubbed in just how bad the loading screens were. No Man's Sky came out in 2016 and just had a single loading screen at the start, with the rest of the game streaming in on slow PS4 harddrives. Mercenary 3 also had a seamless open world solar system that ran on the Atari ST and Amiga, in 1991.

Summary:
Starfield will certainly appeal to looter shooter fans that want a casual experience without all the role playing stuff like piloting their ship and walking around space ships. But this game is advertised as a Space RPG it even touts games like Skyrim and Fallout, I fell for it and now feel totally let down.

Starfield is so disjointed as a game that I never felt part of the story or worlds, I found myself running around barren planets with a scanner while random creatures scurried about, dunno what they live off, rocks maybe? Two seconds later after scan complete I press a button and am home, on the other side of the galaxy, standing on concrete where a second ago was a dusty Alien world. Why even have a space ship? You can choose to not fast travel I hear you say, but why would you? You see even if you choose to try and be immersive you are hit with a loading screen as soon as you open your ship door, then a cutscene as you sit down, then another as you take off, then another as you jump then another as you land then another as you stand up then a loading screen as you open the door…who is going to do that when you can simply press a button and get to your destination?

I also found the dialog and decision making options poor with many of the choices you get totally pointless with some situations making no sense at all. The characters are very cliched in what they say especially during combat, it's cringeworthy when your companion who sounds like an Oxford Uni graduate says "I will own you" in a soft spoken voice in the middle of a firefight. I would shoot her myself but I need her to carry my loot.

At least I know one person who is very happy, Sean Murray and am sure the new content added to no Mans Sky this week was timed to perfection to taunt the people playing Starfield. I too had to put up with this taunting as Cass was playing NMS as I played Starfield and I could not help be jealous as I peeked at her monitor and saw her seamlessly fly from space to the atmosphere of a planet and land exactly where she wanted. It’s late now and am off to bed, I will no doubt awake and read plenty of abuse on here over my review but it’s fine as I will be playing NMS most of the day where I will be so immersed I will forget the troubles IRL and just enjoy the game, I just wish I could be playing a better version of this

 

[Perkel]

The Bethesda jank also extends to music and sound.

Starfield music is definition of modern orchestral garbage.

Lack of Jeremy Soul (due to metoo shit) is easily seen here. For all Betsheda wrongs Jeremy would always make magical tunes to their games that would sooth your anger at idiot design and just walking around and exploring was fun and here there is nothing some typical modern orchestral BLEEEHHH

Jeremy Soule got tangled in metoo shit? Tell me more.

HE fucked some girl for a while, she wanted more and he instead droped her ass.
Few years later that chick went on internet and bemoaned how she was stupid and how Jeremy used her as his "muse" where he wanted only pussy.

Yes, as insane as it is Betsheda dropped him for that lol.

 

[Vic]

so most important question - are giant spiders in the game and how big they are?

you can meet one that's 1 person tall and like 2 persons wide like 1 hour into the game that ass rape you while spitting hallucinogenic spit at you telling your Mom hates you and you gonna fail to fight the spider.

One of the few handcrafted content of the game and is pretty good

Yup, this fellow:

Spoiler

 

[ChildInTime]

Come laugh at the ending message with me, actual spoilers, if you care about this shit of a games plot. Great advice up there - just go play Space Rangers.

Spoiler

 

[Readher]

> each planet is a vast empty landscape with one settlement worth visiting and maybe 2-3 mobs

No, it has procedurally generated structures which can be caves, abandoned buildings, landmarks, etc. There are quite a few on each planet. All generic of course but offer loot, xp and combat. The landscape between those POIs are stocked with plants, minerals and animals which you can harvest/kill for resources and xp.

The main gimmick of exploration is the scanner. You have to scan a dozen or so of each life form (without perks) to get 100% completion. Each time you get an xp bonus and a little icon showing you've scanned all. I think it's pretty pointless tbh.

Once you scan everything on a planet, you can sell the data for credits. That's the main point of doing it, I think. There's a special NPC later in the main story who buys it for more than usual (similar to pre-war books in Fallout 3).

 

[Konjad]

I haven't find any new form of intelligent alien having spaceships or settlements in the game at all

If Todd added them they would be Khajiits/Argonians anyway.

 

[Vic]

How does the pistol deal more damage when you wear less armour? Are you throwing the bullets?

Game definitely is unfinished yet. I don't think the Berserker affix (weapon does more damage the less armour you wear) should be applied to ranged weapons, but it makes sense for melee.

 

[Lemming42]

The lack of aliens does suck. I get the feeling the game went through a change in tonal direction midway through - it seems like they set out to make a realistic thing (hence "NASApunk"), realised that it would be excruciatingly boring, and then started adding in Cyberpunk World and Cowboy World and Solarpunk World.

But it just feels completely peculiar. Everything looks and feels drab, but then wacky genre-pastiche shit is happening on screen.

It would have been 100x better if they'd just added aliens. The game would have gotten some much-needed visual variety, would have started to feel a little bit like a distinct new setting rather than a crappy generic waste of time, they could hire voice actors to do fun accents and inject a bit of life into the game, and everyone would doubtlessly have fawned over the game because they got to romance Big Amazonian Purple Alien Woman With Four Arms and/or Suave Fish Man With Smooth British Accent or whatever.

 

[Be Kind Rewind]

Seriously, why playing this game when you can play Space Rangers2?

I see you are also a man of prestigious taste. My pick for a more unknown space based roleplaying RPG game that is a better pick than Starflop would be Star Wolves, any game in the trilogy would be a much better use of your time and hard drive space.

 

[Vic]

Once you scan everything on a planet, you can sell the data for credits. That's the main point of doing it, I think. There's a special NPC later in the main story who buys it for more than usual (similar to pre-war books in Fallout 3).

ohh, good to know! I should probably start doing the main quest to unlock more stuff then! Been busy playing for 25 hours not progressing the main quest past Jemison

 

[Eisenheinrich]

I don't think you can actually swim under water in this game

maybe they release a Deep Sea DLC, that would be cool, but for now you can't actually explore underwater, that's why in that clip she isn't diving under

That sounds convincing.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Soooo... is the game any good?

It's a Bethesda game. You can count on it being one.

 

[GamingConnoisseur]

why does every shitty game now have looter shooter mechanics?

 

[Vic]

The lack of aliens does suck.

I was wondering, are there really no sentient aliens? Man, I'm telling you the game is unfinished. Lots of graphical glitches and stuff like trees spawning on top your base, no swimming, etc. I really hope they will fix it with future updates.

 

[Vic]

why does every shitty game now have looter shooter mechanics?

because Dopamine.