Starfield Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[AwesomeButton]

This is a raider base that we're clearing out, and the only reason I went to sleep was to heal myself.

You mean you're not stocked up with medkits up your neck? Admit it, you wanted to see if you will trigger a sex scene! (j/k)

 

[Mortmal]

The cherry on top is that my rtx 4070 seems to be barely enough to run the game at 1080p while its still looking like a stripped down GTAV. This is a new low even for Todd and the fact that he is mysteriously silent about it all just points me in the direction that this is the best the game can do and no patches will come along to fix it.

I am genuinely surprised that there are people here who still expect that a patch will solve the performance problems. That game was announced so many years ago, and they haven't done anything besides Fallout 76. They haven't made any progress on the Elder Scrolls games either. If they were able to optimize, they would have done so already. They were probably cutting costs with cheap, inexperienced youth, diversity hires, some nepotism to boot as usual, and even hiring underpaid modders. The uninspiring 50-year-old white male coder is definitely far too expensive and he's already hired into better jobs. So it will likely stay the way it is.

 

[Vic]

This is a raider base that we're clearing out, and the only reason I went to sleep was to heal myself.

You mean you're not stocked up with medkits up your neck? Admit it, you wanted to see if you will trigger a sex scene! (j/k)

I'm constantly face tanking bullets so I'm always out of medpacks, taking a quick nap mid-combat is a quick and easy fix

 

[mediocrepoet]

This is a raider base that we're clearing out, and the only reason I went to sleep was to heal myself.

You mean you're not stocked up with medkits up your neck? Admit it, you wanted to see if you will trigger a sex scene! (j/k)

I'm constantly face tanking bullets so I'm always out of medpacks, taking a quick nap mid-combat is a quick and easy fix

Do you think the Starborn shouts over his stack of crates and calls, "Time out!" so he can take his 40 winks, then yells back, "Game on!" after he wakes up?

 

[AwesomeButton]

The NPC popin, the cloning, the object LOD popin, all that shit, was all introduced patch by patch in CDPR's attempts to not personally be responsible for the destruction of thousands of PS5's worldwide.

This, and the 1.4 patch in particular was as miserable and stingy as a Charles Dickens antagonist.

 

[Iucounu]

whites are the minority, yes, but that's because you have all races mixed together, it's actually quite balanced among all races it seems.

But all those races are culturally American, I presume? Before the left sold out to globalism they used to talk about American cultural imperialism...

I wouldn't mind entire space colonies populated by genuine cultural Africans, but I realize the likelihood of a game developer achieving that in a believable way is non-existent.

it's not a colony, there is no more Earth in Starfield, so that's all of humanity you see, not just America, hence the diversity.

OK, but are they culturally American in the game? Most of Earth's black people live in Africa, not in America (ditto for Indians, Chinese, etc). If you'd mix all those cultures in space there should be interesting consequences (both good and bad), but apparently that's too difficult and too sensitive for today's writers (that's one thing Mass Effect 1-2 did pretty well, using alien species as metaphores). A frequent annoyance of mine is when American sci-fi games try to be diverse, and all they can muster is including American blacks, American latinos, American gays, American females, basically having Americans represent all of future humanity without explanation.

 

[Jenkem]

Bethesda makes an RPG where quest solutions, systems and dialogue options are locked behind skills, traits and factions joined but everyone seethes because the content is locked and the game doesn't tell you about this. Dungeons for handcrafted quests give you a lot of tools to use like secret vents, cuttable walls, npcs to persuade or pickpocket, things to hack to cause a distraction but people seethe because you don't find out about any of this if you only follow the quest marker

this game is made for a particular mindset that most modern gamers lack

 

[AwesomeButton]

Do you think the Starborn shouts over his stack of crates and calls, "Time out!" so he can take his 40 winks, then yells back, "Game on!" after he wakes up?

If Geralt can munch on a chicken leg while swordfighting with his free hand, why not.

 

[Lemming42]

I say, this looks the business! Not sure why a shitty old Earth shotgun is literally five times better than some of the futuristic ones I'm carrying, but who cares. Ammo is cheap, damage is ludicrous, and enemies go flying.

 

[mediocrepoet]

Do you think the Starborn shouts over his stack of crates and calls, "Time out!" so he can take his 40 winks, then yells back, "Game on!" after he wakes up?

If Geralt can munch on a chicken leg while swordfighting with his free hand, why not.

Yeah, that's fair I suppose. It's not like it's a new thing, you can pretty much sit down and have a picnic on a cyclopes' head in Dragon's Dogma before stabbing him in the eye.

 

[JamesDixon]

I say, this looks the business! Not sure why a shitty old Earth shotgun is literally five times better than some of the futuristic ones I'm carrying, but who cares. Ammo is cheap, damage is ludicrous, and enemies go flying.

Because the chamber is round not square. The designer of the futuristic weapons failed basic shapes and managed to fit a round shell into a square hole...

 

[Vic]

I say, this looks the business! Not sure why a shitty old Earth shotgun is literally five times better than some of the futuristic ones I'm carrying, but who cares. Ammo is cheap, damage is ludicrous, and enemies go flying.

that's a buggy affix btw, that should only apply to melee weapons imo

 

[AwesomeButton]

I say, this looks the business! Not sure why a shitty old Earth shotgun is literally five times better than some of the futuristic ones I'm carrying, but who cares. Ammo is cheap, damage is ludicrous, and enemies go flying.

This was designed by someone going by memory, this forearm has nowhere to go back to extract the shell, but it's the feelz that's the important thing.

 

[Vyvian]

so we are comparing CP2077 after years of patches vs newly launched Starfield?

No, smartass, but I will tell you that behavior didn't happen much (in my recollection) when CP2077 was first released. I think I would remember that, too, because I was so fascinated with the city on the first day I started playing the game.

The NPC popin, the cloning, the object LOD popin, all that shit, was all introduced patch by patch in CDPR's attempts to not personally be responsible for the destruction of thousands of PS5's worldwide.

I had CP2077 on PC on release day and for me performance just got worse with each major patch. Launch was the best experience performance-wise with the game and my specs were somewhat below the minimum in some ways. What the hell was going on with the PS5 if that was the case?

 

[kroki]

ok so i torrented this. in the intro poc lady bosses me arround and the white dweeb behind her reminds me about her One Simple Rule - "do as the boss lady says". i remember playing outer worlds years ago and it also started with a sassy sheboon. big yikes so far.

i tried to shoot her with mining laser but beam just noclips through her model

 

[Vic]

OK, but are they culturally American in the game? Most of Earth's black people live in Africa, not in America (ditto for Indians, Chinese, etc). If you'd mix all those cultures in space there should be interesting consequences (both good and bad), but apparently that's too difficult and too sensitive for today's writers (that's one thing Mass Effect 1-2 did pretty well, using alien species as metaphores). A frequent annoyance of mine is when American sci-fi games try to be diverse, and all they can muster is including American blacks, American latinos, American gays, American females, basically having Americans represent all of future humanity without explanation.

I haven't explored the cities too much yet but if I'll be honest it's written like American writers tried to create a diverse space faring nation from the remnants of earth's population. make of it what you will There is actual lore and stuff but I haven't looked too much into it

 

[Vic]

ok so i torrented this. in the intro poc lady bosses me arround and the white dweeb behind her reminds me about her One Simple Rule - "do as the boss lady says". i remember playing outer worlds years ago and it also started with a sassy sheboon. big yikes so far

you have to play it for at least 5 hours until it "clicks"

 

[Lemming42]

Do the ships that sometimes fly overhead have any meaning or gameplay relevance? I was on a totally abandoned world which was said to be uncontacted for years and saw a ship taking off. Went prancing back to the USS Lemming42 to give chase only to find nothing in orbit. Landed on the surface to have a look around and found no signs of the ship's visit. I'd assume it was a special scripted event if not for the fact it's happened a few times now.

I did head into orbit once and find a random event ship (a teacher taking kids on an outer-space school trip who needed repair parts), but I don't think it was the same ship I saw take off, and was instead a Fo3 style random event that was picked from a pool.

 

[Vic]

Do the ships that sometimes fly overhead have any meaning or gameplay relevance? I was on a totally abandoned world which was said to be uncontacted for years and saw a ship taking off. Went prancing back to the USS Lemming42 to give chase only to find nothing in orbit. Landed on the surface to have a look around and found no signs of the ship's visit. I'd assume it was a special scripted event if not for the fact it's happened a few times now.

yeah these ships are random, they have a procgenned quest (hey give us some fuel) or some enemies from what I've seen

 

[Darkwind]

I say, this looks the business! Not sure why a shitty old Earth shotgun is literally five times better than some of the futuristic ones I'm carrying, but who cares. Ammo is cheap, damage is ludicrous, and enemies go flying.

Sort of a meta-style metaphor for the game itself, innit? Shit from decades ago simply is better & outperforms the 'modern' variants.

 

[Darkwind]

I say, this looks the business! Not sure why a shitty old Earth shotgun is literally five times better than some of the futuristic ones I'm carrying, but who cares. Ammo is cheap, damage is ludicrous, and enemies go flying.

This was designed by someone going by memory, this forearm has nowhere to go back to extract the shell, but it's the feelz that's the important thing.

If the pump action grip is retracted and the ejection port is on the right, its actually an accurate representation, but yeah the pump slide should be forward from where it is were it actually functional and not "half racked".

 

[Moink]

There's also an AS VAL and an AK, kinda weird choice, guess someone liked STALKER.

 

[Vyvian]

Has anyone tried any melee focused combat?
Did they improve that aspect or is it still just bonk or punch?

 

[Moink]

Has anyone tried any melee focused combat?
Did they improve that aspect or is it still just bonk or punch?

I had a search around earlier and people are saying it's worse than Fallout 4 because no VATS, there's also barely any melee weapons and you can't put mods on them.

 

[Butter]

I feel like "NASApunk" was the biggest conceptual misstep of this entire product. Why deliberately go for something so sterile and dull? Pulp science fiction is a treasure trove of exciting aesthetics that nobody has really exploited in a AAA video game.

Hell, even just doing a Jetsons RPG would be incredible. I just don't understand this """"creative"""" decision.