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Starfield Thread - now with Shattered Space horror expansion

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So, do you think Bethesda outsourced the writing to some circus or do they have illiterate employees?

This is just one example. There was even a situation where they mixed up "your" and "you're" in the main character's dialogue options! It felt revolting. But I forgot to document it, probably due to rage.

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So, do you think Bethesda outsourced the writing to some circus or do they have illiterate employees?
It has already been established in this thread that Bethesda outsourced a substantial part of the development of Starfield, likely the result of the game having been stuck in 'development hell' for years before emerging in its current incarnation. :M
 

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That's not an excuse, a lot of AAA games do. Elden Ring outsourced to same indian company (Lakshya) as Starfield. There's just an absurd amount of work going into these AAA productions and in most cases being wasted by shitty directors/designers/managers.
 

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So, do you think Bethesda outsourced the writing to some circus or do they have illiterate employees?

This is just one example. There was even a situation where they mixed up "your" and "you're" in the main character's dialogue options! It felt revolting. But I forgot to document it, probably due to rage.
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Yes.

This text is seen 2 dozen times per NG+ playthrough. (Provided you're doing all temples, but what else is there to do.) If anybody playtesting this knew that "pour" and "pore" are different words with different meanings, he just said "fuck it, good enough".
 

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So, do you think Bethesda outsourced the writing to some circus or do they have illiterate employees?

This is just one example. There was even a situation where they mixed up "your" and "you're" in the main character's dialogue options! It felt revolting. But I forgot to document it, probably due to rage.

Yes.

This text is seen 2 dozen times per NG+ playthrough. (Provided you're doing all temples, but what else is there to do.) If anybody playtesting this knew that "pour" and "pore" are different words with different meanings, he just said "fuck it, good enough".
Umm... Wow! What kind of elixir do they presume is being "poured" over these charts? I have not gone sufficiently into the main story, so I was unaware of the above. I have mostly ignored The Lodge, focusing instead on exploration and other quests (including UC, Ryujin, and Freestar).

Such language is genuinely annoying in RPGs, as they should be held to a higher standard here. As a non-native speaker, I find it extremely off-putting; I assume that if I notice it, then it must be very problematic. It actually surprises me that this aspect hasn't received more widespread criticism from normies.
 

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why are gamers so entitled?

back in my day I was happy if my dad picked up a black and white cartridge for my gameboy on the fleamarket every sunday for me

now we get games likes Starfield, which you can easily pirate btw, and you are all crying like spoiled little bitches
 

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why are gamers so entitled?

back in my day I was happy if my dad picked up a black and white cartridge for my gameboy on the fleamarket every sunday for me
Maybe you'd expect better from your games if you bought them with your money instead of mooching them off your dad you freeloader.
 

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why are gamers so entitled?

back in my day I was happy if my dad picked up a black and white cartridge for my gameboy on the fleamarket every sunday for me

now we get games likes Starfield, which you can easily pirate btw, and you are all crying like spoiled little bitches

Yeah. Exactly. Many Gameboy games are more fun than Starfield. Ever heard of Tetris? Huh? Or Super Mario Land? Or Double Dragon? Or Robocop? Or Final Fantasy Legend? Or ... look, Starfield sucks. Even you get that much if you're honest with yourself.
 

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if you think starfield is a bad game you’ve never played a bad game

step away from the mainstream and play some random titles to get some perspective

starfield a bad game pftttt
 

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if you think starfield is a bad game you’ve never played a bad game

step away from the mainstream and play some random titles to get some perspective

starfield a bad game pftttt
For a comparison, how would you score previous Bethesda games and Starfield.
 

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why are gamers so entitled?

back in my day I was happy if my dad picked up a black and white cartridge for my gameboy on the fleamarket every sunday for me

now we get games likes Starfield, which you can easily pirate btw, and you are all crying like spoiled little bitches
First, time is way more valuable than the price now that we aren't kids.

Second, it's our duty to trash big titles if they underdeliver (not here, here it's just for recreation) otherwise the bar will be at the shit mark forever
 

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First, time is way more valuable than the price now that we aren't kids.
oh spare me, how many horurs are you wasting on the codex each day.
Second, it's our duty to trash big titles if they underdeliver (not here, here it's just for recreation) otherwise the bar will be at the shit mark forever
nobody cares. The bottom line is money not your post count in the Starfield thread
For a comparison, how would you score previous Bethesda games and Starfield.
idk man, it's the same game all over. This time it's Daggerfall meets Fallout 4. It's not too far from the apple tree
 

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they always had typos in their games
no you fuckwad, a typo is a typographical error, i.e. the accidental replacement of one letter with another. consistently misusing basic words is caused by stupidity, not carelessness.

It actually surprises me that this aspect hasn't received more widespread criticism from normies.
you're talking about people who interchangeably use they're, there and their, based on whatever their phone autocorrects to

back in my day I was happy if my dad picked up a black and white cartridge for my gameboy on the fleamarket every sunday for me

now we get games likes Starfield, which you can easily pirate btw, and you are all crying like spoiled little bitches
every one of those b&w games had more depth, soul and integrity than the totality of bethesda's output in the past 10 years
 

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oh spare me, how many horurs are you wasting on the codex each day.
A bad example, even shitposting here is better time spent than playing subj.
nobody cares. The bottom line is money not your post count in the Starfield thread
Of course it's imperative to discourage purchases and ostracizing retards who already bought a bad product. And again, not here. Alhough even on Cotex there were plenty.
 

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if you think starfield is a bad game you’ve never played a bad game
Starfield is a bad game because they didn't even do the basics right. If the story and setting is cohesive, or there is a semi-competent gameplay loop, we have the makings of a fun game. That's a pretty low bar, but Starfield instead decides to play Limbo with my low expectations.

I don't expect great storytelling from Bethesda these days, but I do expect them to craft a cohesive setting that I can somewhat believe. At minimmum, I was expecting factions with an ideology, and an established territory. Fallout 4, which I consider to be Bethesda's second worst game, accomplishes this much. I could rant for days how stupid the ideologies of the Railroaders or the Institute are, but at least the ideologies exist. There is no cultural difference between the United Colonies and Freestar Collective. They could be under the same governing body and different political parties, and it would make no difference. The art ranges from nonsensical (cowboy city, neon city) to exactly the same as an opposing faction. Starfield setting is not simply bad, it is not believable.

The story shatters any believebility right at the start, when a man, who you've met for a grand total of 5 minutes gives you his ship. I don't want to spoil the lackluster story but throughout it all, I never felt there were any stakes or compelling mysteries that kept me wanting to play the game. In Fallout 4 your goal was to save your son and the quests involved uncovering the identity of the kidnapper, and discover why he was taken. Again, you can criticize Fallout 4's story, but at least it existed. What is the story of Starfield, become space jesus? The story in Starfield does not exist.

If a game does not have a good story or setting, they can make a fun game with a good gameplay loop. Take a look at a game like Elex, or perhaps Elex 2. The game does SO much wrong, with terrible voice acting, awful janky combat, and hideous graphics. Yet their gameplay loop is one of best i've played. The dopimine rush from crafting 29 Elex potions in a row after hours of looting handcrafted areas is unrivaled. The main gameplay loop of Explore=>Loot=>Craft is less compelling than other games. Explore a procedurally generated copy pasted world, Loot a bunch of materials that you may or may not need in the most boring way possible, Craft nothing, because there is no reason to create a colony, no ammo crafting, no reason to build weapon mods, no compelling reason to improve your ship because ship combat is boring jousting in space that requires zero skill. The gameplay loop is not fun, and the fun features like ship-building or possibly settlement-building are not encorperated in the gameplay loop.

People say that "the modders will fix the game." A game like Stalker:Anomoly has a weak gameplay loop, and little thought was put into progression, but it is technologically ambitious. Modpacks like STALKER: GAMMA turn an alright game into a great one by streamlining items (no more old ammo, a lot misc loot removed), adds tons of QOL changes, and tweaks the difficulty and prices makes it an immersive game that you can spend hours playing. However, in Starfield's case, the best the modders can do is elevate it to a 6/10 game. Modders can't fix setting or story, or atmosphere, but they can create a good gameplay loop. I'll probably pick up Starfield on sale in 5 years, once all the DLC is released, and someone makes a good Wabbajack modpack. Starfield is a bad game because they didn't get the basics right.

why are gamers so entitled?

It is not entitled to want a believable setting, a semi-compitent story, and a smooth gameplay loop. If F2P videogames can give you this, $70 Starfield should as well.
 

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Interesting, even Reddit NPCs find Starfield mediocre:
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Wasn't someone here just saying that it is a good game? :)
 

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