KickStarter Stygian: Reign of the Old Ones - a Lovecraftian Computer RPG

[V_K]

is it dumb to save resources and beat something in spite of difficulty

But you're not saving resources on that, on the contrary, you're constantly losing sanity - which is, arguably, far more important than kerosene. Although YMMV, of course.

is it dumb to figure out a way to beat something you shouldnt be able to beat

In-setting (diegetically) - most certainly. It's not a high fantasy game where you're playing an adventure seeker and expect to be rewarded for bravery. In a horror-ish setting, bravery is punished - which is what we have here.

is it dumb to expect a clearly visible box to require a lanturn to loot

If the game was telegraphing so hard that you were doing something wrong, and you persisted in doing it...

 

[the mole]

is it dumb to save resources and beat something in spite of difficulty

But you're not saving resources on that, on the contrary, you're constantly losing sanity - which is, arguably, far more important than kerosene. Although YMMV, of course.

is it dumb to figure out a way to beat something you shouldnt be able to beat

In-setting (diegetically) - most certainly. It's not a high fantasy game where you're playing an adventure seeker and expect to be rewarded for bravery. In a horror-ish setting, bravery is punished - which is what we have here.

is it dumb to expect a clearly visible box to require a lanturn to loot

If the game was telegraphing so hard that you were doing something wrong, and you persisted in doing it...

I did nothing wrong though, I beat it with barely any issue

the only thing wrong is that the game arbitrarily gated opening a clearly visible box

 

[Fedora Master]

I mean you could take the time to foward this issue to the devs and see what they do.

 

[V_K]

I did nothing wrong though, I beat it with barely any issue

You were losing sanity all the time while traversing darkness. Stuff that was supposed to be interactable wasn't. If this didn't give you the idea that you were doing something wrong, you are indeed dumb, and not just your char.

 

[the mole]

I did nothing wrong though, I beat it with barely any issue

You were losing sanity all the time while traversing darkness. Stuff that was supposed to be interactable wasn't. If this didn't give you the idea that you were doing something wrong, you are indeed dumb, and not just your char.

How were you supposed to know the boxes were interactable, really once you get through the dark room you dont take sanity damage, the ghouls are right there to fight

 

[Yosharian]

The darkness-level has nothing at all to do with the ability to perceive objects BY TOUCH

And how is your character supposed to know what a transmitter feels like exactly?
Your only clue in game as to which crate to loot is its number - which you obviously can't see in the dark.

but I could see it in the dark, the problem was the player was given no indication that they needed a lantern to loot boxes in slightly dark rooms

I don't know man, I did the stabber quest first and when I walked into that tunnel next to the mafia club and nothing was interactable, while I was getting sanity damage, it took me exactly 2 seconds to realize I need to leave and come back with a lantern.

"It was obvious to me, so there's no problem here!"

 

[the mole]

also progressing anywhere in the game and doing anything gets you sanity damage, why were you expected to be forced to get a lantern

boxes are clearly visible

 

[the mole]

the first rpg I ever played was called Pokemon Red, they had a genius way of letting you know you needed light, by making it dark enough so you couldnt see where you were going

stygian makes it dark enough to where you get no feedback, why would I assume anything would be different just because it's slightly darker, yet I can still see

 

[Fedora Master]

the first rpg I ever played was called Pokemon Red

Off to a great start, you'll fit right in.

 

[the mole]

even a game as simple as pokemon red understood a way to make you want to get a light source, to make it nearly mandatory, stygian does no such thing

 

[Iluvcheezcake]

Autism levels in the last few pages are through the roof

 

[the mole]

Autism levels in the last few pages are through the roof

autism would be you not understanding the point and having to call it autism, projection

 

[Fowyr]

And how is your character supposed to know what a transmitter feels like exactly?
Your only clue in game as to which crate to loot is its number - which you obviously can't see in the dark.

Once I tried finding specific thing in a dilapidated warehouse full of heavy crates when my flashlight gave up a ghost. I fruitlessly searched for several hours.

 

[the mole]

And how is your character supposed to know what a transmitter feels like exactly?
Your only clue in game as to which crate to loot is its number - which you obviously can't see in the dark.

Once I tried finding specific thing in a dilapidated warehouse full of heavy crates when my flashlight gave up a ghost. I fruitlessly searched for several hours.

was the specific thing also marked with a clearly visible number on the box, something like 311

 

[Alienman]

Kinda funny imagining a man on the brink of insanity waving around a knife in a pitch black warehouse fighting ghouls and god knows what else while screaming "where is the god damn transmitter!"

 

[V_K]

Kinda funny imagining a man on the brink of insanity waving around a knife in a pitch black warehouse fighting ghouls and god knows what else while screaming "where is the god damn transmitter!"

I died.

 

[Fowyr]

was the specific thing also marked with a clearly visible number on the box, something like 311

I just checked warehouse again. By the way, final crate with weapons regenerated (oh yes!), radio parts regenerated too. Ghouls in a room with Flesh Devourer were present as well. So, man, you need to turn brightness on your display waaaaay down. Without lantern it is pitch black. I can't even see crates, number 311 my ass.

 

[Yosharian]

And how is your character supposed to know what a transmitter feels like exactly?
Your only clue in game as to which crate to loot is its number - which you obviously can't see in the dark.

Once I tried finding specific thing in a dilapidated warehouse full of heavy crates when my flashlight gave up a ghost. I fruitlessly searched for several hours.

Again a disingenuous comparison, but not surprising from someone who just mindlessly labels other peoples' posts as retarded.

There is ONE crate in that corner of the room, it's very obvious even though it's dark. It's not analogous to your example in the least.

 

[Yosharian]

Kinda funny imagining a man on the brink of insanity waving around a knife in a pitch black warehouse fighting ghouls and god knows what else while screaming "where is the god damn transmitter!"

Kinda funny imagining that a fucking crate in front of your very eyes ceases to exist and can't be searched just because it's dark.

The rationalization here is off the fucking charts.

 

[Berekän]

I mean, if you want to get petty, you might be able to distinguish the general outline of the box itself on the dark, doesn't mean you'll be able to look in it and actually make heads or tails of what's actually inside, it'll most likely be much darker.

 

[Iluvcheezcake]

Autism levels in the last few pages are through the roof

autism would be you not understanding the point and having to call it autism, projection

Oh i understood the point all right, right from the start.
The sheer stubborness and beating of the dead horse by the likes of you just creates unnecessary clutter.

If the lamp issue bothers you so much, go to steam and politely write a post about it to the dev team, with arguments and all. Im pretty sure they would listen to it.

 

[Silva]

The game could communicate the fact that maybe carrying a light source could reveal things in the room, sure. But I don't find it broken or even illogical the way it is.

 

[Yosharian]

I mean, if you want to get petty, you might be able to distinguish the general outline of the box itself on the dark, doesn't mean you'll be able to look in it and actually make heads or tails of what's actually inside, it'll most likely be much darker.

Wooooosh

 

[Roguey]

Two people itt can't wrap their heads around the fact that they can see things the character they're playing can't. Stygian's programmers aren't particularly good, that may be a reason why they didn't go with a totally-obscuring darkness-that-covers-everything-but-your-character-and-the-exit.

ok once you know you might need a lantern, where do you get one, is your first guess the gunshop

It's not a gunshop; it sells a lot of other things.

 

[Silva]

Yeah, it's a pawn shop.

And Yosharian , I'll put something in your hand on a pitch black room. Let's see if you guess what it is.