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Cleveland Mark Blakemore said:
The West whines and complains about the toll taken by cancer, yet has refused to explore the blatantly obvious connection between opportunist microbial infections, sleep and insulin function. I doubt if there is anyone smart enough to figure it out anyway.

Yet perfectly healthy people get cancer all the time. You can hedge your bets, but cancer can simply pop up completely due to rotten luck. And finding a cure has nothing to do with intelligence, it's just that cancer is that damn hard to deal with. We'd be better off hunting for an AIDS cure, since cancer is so difficult.

Cleveland Mark Blakemore said:
All the cool things are happening in China. The West is just full of doddering confused feebleminded halfwits puttering around while their civilization implodes around their ears. When a new problem appears (and they appear exponentially) modern people solve it by having a special TV report debunk it as nonexistent. NA-NA-NA times are better than ever and whatnot.

You can mark my words here. China is going to crash and burn in 30 years. They're just another commercial, multicultural republic with no fundamental unity outside of trade, wealth, and other materialistic ideals. They're just like Europe and America, only even more polluted and without the experience in war and diplomacy. China will have a rude awakening within our lifetimes.

In 30 years, I'd say Brazil will be looking like a great place to live, from the fertile soil and the sugar cane ethanol. Hey, it was good enough for the expatriot Nazis right? ;)
 

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luckyb0y said:
Why don't you write a paper and send it to Nature or Science. I'm sure it will get front page. We all know you won't even answer that one, cause you'll be ripped to shreds.

Notice how you think through the consensus. Anybody who owns the media owns you as well, in your mind where it counts.

Good quality peer reviewed science doesn't stand a chance of getting published nowadays. Worst era for quality science since the beginning of the enlightenment.

No better way to get your discovery canned and flushed down the memory hole than to try to get it published. If it's good science it will be suppressed. This applies to everything nowadays.

That's why you're always seeing a press release about a breakthrough which you never heard about again, ever. Wonder why that is?

'Cuz sociopaths run the institutions. Another sign of the decline.
 

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luckyb0y said:
Making unsupported claims on the internet sure is easy. I have a fusion reactor right in my basement I set up the other day. All built from the stuff you can buy at your local DIY store. I am awesome.

If you had read anything about energy technology, you'd know instantly what it is.

Patent disputes are tying up the business in courts for years. I can't talk about it but if you knew anything you'd guess and get it right.

Solid, no toxic fumes, no alkalines. Runs off most plentiful substance in universe.
 

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Cleveland Mark Blakemore said:
Notice how you think through the consensus. Anybody who owns the media owns you as well, in your mind where it counts.

Good quality peer reviewed science doesn't stand a chance of getting published nowadays. Worst era for quality science since the beginning of the enlightenment.

No better way to get your discovery canned and flushed down the memory hole than to try to get it published. If it's good science it will be suppressed. This applies to everything nowadays.

That's why you're always seeing a press release about a breakthrough which you never heard about again, ever. Wonder why that is?

'Cuz sociopaths run the institutions. Another sign of the decline.

Noticed how you didn't answer the question and just dodged the issue? Let's not talk about peer reviewed journals for a minute. Let's pretend it's not he internet and we are both adults that want to talk about something and actually come to conclusion. What is the conection between opportunistic infections, sleep and insulin. Honestly if anything you know can help millions of people suffering from cancer I'll personally fly to Australia kiss your arse and proclaim you my overlord. How does that sound?
 

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So Cleve, let me get this straight, you're so brilliant you've got a cure for cancer and a solution to the world's energy problems, things that the greatest minds having been striving for for decades? Yet you're not clever enough to get either published or patented, things that people of average intelligence manage on an hourly basis?

You're nothing if not entertaining. Hilariously inconsistent, contradictory, deranged and entertaining.
 

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Cleveland Mark Blakemore said:
Solid, no toxic fumes, no alkalines. Runs off most plentiful substance in universe.
What? Zero-point energy? Geez... Feel free to give us an update on that one later.
 

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Cleveland Mark Blakemore said:
luckyb0y said:
Making unsupported claims on the internet sure is easy. I have a fusion reactor right in my basement I set up the other day. All built from the stuff you can buy at your local DIY store. I am awesome.

If you had read anything about energy technology, you'd know instantly what it is.

Patent disputes are tying up the business in courts for years. I can't talk about it but if you knew anything you'd guess and get it right.

Solid, no toxic fumes, no alkalines. Runs off most plentiful substance in universe.

Not really that much into technology. It's not that I don't believe you but anyone can say something like that and most would be full of shit. I can't tell if you are or aren't cause you just drop one line about how it's awesome and then you can't talk about it. Why make the claim then? It just makes you sound like a prick. I know but I won't tell. What is this? Are we fucking 5 year olds? I know you aren't. So quit acting like one.
 

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Cleveland Mark Blakemore said:
Good quality peer reviewed science doesn't stand a chance of getting published nowadays. Worst era for quality science since the beginning of the enlightenment.
If you mean: "quality peer-reviewed science doesn't make it to the more accessible media outlets", then I agree. If you mean: "quality science doesn't make it past peer review", then it's a different story. If you mean option b), let me know and I'll insult you (and will demand examples).
 

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Solid state heat dump nuclear power


If you had read anything about energy technology, you'd know instantly what it is.

If you had read anything about energy technology, you'd know instantly that there is about 1 new invention "claiming" the same thing each month.

Runs off most plentiful substance in universe.

furries, hydrogen, or dark matter?

Oh, i get it, you have you're own personal Iter in the corner of you're hole, damn. Why did they go and have to spend billions of pounds on building the prototype when they could have just gone to cleve.
 

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Gosh, I never would've guessed Cleve had Yellow Fever. I hear it's all the rage in poseur circles.

We've been getting a lot of these dipshits lately. Maybe Cleve is Bryce is Krancor?
 

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kingcomrade said:
Gosh, I never would've guessed Cleve had Yellow Fever. I hear it's all the rage in poseur circles.

We've been getting a lot of these dipshits lately. Maybe Cleve is Bryce is Krancor?

Huh?
 

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Krancor said:
kingcomrade said:
Gosh, I never would've guessed Cleve had Yellow Fever. I hear it's all the rage in poseur circles.

We've been getting a lot of these dipshits lately. Maybe Cleve is Bryce is Krancor?

Huh?

The enemy of my enemy is not my friend.
 

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kingcomrade said:
Gosh, I never would've guessed Cleve had Yellow Fever. I hear it's all the rage in poseur circles.

We've been getting a lot of these dipshits lately. Maybe Cleve is Bryce is Krancor?

I don't remember Bryce (or anyone here) being against porn.
 

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The pebble bed reactor was invented by the Krauts. But they stopped their nuclear program in favour of silly windmills.
 

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Cleveland Mark Blakemore said:
Notice how you think through the consensus. Anybody who owns the media owns you as well, in your mind where it counts.

Good quality peer reviewed science doesn't stand a chance of getting published nowadays. Worst era for quality science since the beginning of the enlightenment.

No better way to get your discovery canned and flushed down the memory hole than to try to get it published. If it's good science it will be suppressed. This applies to everything nowadays.

That's why you're always seeing a press release about a breakthrough which you never heard about again, ever. Wonder why that is?

'Cuz sociopaths run the institutions. Another sign of the decline.

Yes peer reviewed journals are the best way to bury your research. What? You can argue that scientific community can be close minded, divided and overly dependent on established ideas, but claiming that you can't do about it is pure bullshit. Let me present you with an example, it's not the only one but it's right in my field so easy to do it out of the top of my head. Peter Mitchell proposed his chemiosmotic theory explaining synthesis of ATP - universal energy molecule present in all organisms. He said that the synthesis is coupled to ion gradient across the mitochondrial membrane. Most prominent scientifiec minds at the time just dismissed it and laughed him off. What do you know, it's now universally accepted as true. If your theory, research, invention or whatnot is sound, working and true it will prevail despite any difficulties you may encounter.
 

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Keldorn said:
-If only we had more Capitalism (and subsequently resulting corporatism), the world would be a MUCH better place !

It's not so much capitalism as it is a sense of personal property. If you own things, you're more likely to take care of things as opposed to being given things.

-Warren Buffet's income is taxed WAYYYYYYY too high at 15%, if only he could acquire house #5, car #20 and yacht #9, we'd all be liberated !!! He is a VICTIM.

Warren Buffet could also pay himself a salary under his holdings and get taxed that way if he felt he needed to pay more taxes. The fact of the matter is that when the Capital Gains Tax rate is lowered, revenue from those taxes goes up. The government gets more money and the people who invest get more money. It's the clearest cut WIN/WIN there is in the tax circle.

Now, 70% of the people who file taxes that are making less than $100k a year are paying Capital Gains, so it's not like it'll hurt just people like Warren Buffet to jack up that tax. Most people out there have investments. If you have an IRA, a small business, a few shares of stock in your company, etc. Raising that Capital Gains Tax will hurt you as well.

-There is WAY too much gov't sponsored aid for the poor under Bush. Just look at the million RICH homeless folks with their shiny shopping carts. Look at all the Katrina handouts !!!

Actually, the homeless people are better off under Bush than Clinton. Clinton did fuck all with the homeless. In fact, Clinton didn't even bother seating anyone in the chair of overseeing homeless people. Bush appointed Philip Mangano who developed a program of getting them in apartments because it was cheaper than providing health care and funding shelters.

As for the Katrina people, screw them. If anything exposed what generations of living off the government does to people, it was Katrina. If they relocate you and put you in a trailer, and you can't get a job after a year.. You should starve.

-There should be NO minimum wage. If I, the omnipotent and morally flawless businessman wants to pay a worker 5 cents / hr., then NO one has the right to stop me !!!

There shouldn't be. Only around 1% of the jobs out there actually paid the minimum wage before it was raised. You could go to McDonalds with no experience at all and make a couple of dollars over the minimum wage. Why? Because the market demanded a higher wage for those jobs.

-If I, the almighty and morally perfect bloated megacorp wants to destroy all the fish and forests for PROFIT, then you must bow to my greed is God mantra. Men are not OF the earth, we are ABOVE the earth !

The biggest threat to fish right now are artificial hormones in the water from birth control methods, but you won't see the EPA or environmental groups bitching about that.

-If I want to spew the thickest black diesel cloud out of my band of company trucks into your kid's lungs, any objection means you're a COMMIE. Since I am in pursuit of the dollar sign, you have NO right to impede my path !

Meanwhile, in reality, gobs of people are bitching about the prices of things which is, in part, caused by the low sulfur diesel mandate. That's why diesel is $4 a gallon right now while normal gasoline is $3.50.

-We need to worship profits more in our society. There is not NEARLY enough selfishness, materialism, consumerism and resource hoarding.

Consumerism is kind of the antithesis of hoarding, don't you think? You can't hoard something and sell it at the same time, you know.

-More private police / mercenaries. Let the rich have protection ! The poor ? They forfeit their right because they are poor !

Why not more private armed forces? Why be in the United States Army making $30k a year when you could be in Blackwater making six figures? Not to mention having better equipment, better benefits, less restrictions, and so forth. The idea of having to call up a superior officer to ask if you can return fire when you're being shot at probably never crosses anyone at Blackwater's minds.

-More multi-million dollar CEO bonus checks needed !

Personally, I don't care much for large corporations either. I like most things done locally whereever possible.

-Banish all the unions ! Workers deserve peanuts and pennies if I deem them to be worth only that !

Unions are a joke. Why the hell should I make less than the guy sitting next to me when I'm twice as productive as he is just because he's been there a few years longer? No thanks, I can negotiate things just fine with my own mouth. I don't need some people taking money out of my check to speak for me.

My uncle is in a trade union and he swears by the union system. Even though he lost his job to illegal immigrants who are willing to pound a nail for much less, and now that very union is advocating rights for those illegals in the hopes of collecting future dues from them, he still loves his union.

People want to talk about how greedy corporations are. Well, at least corporations actually produce something for the money they get. Union people are just as greedy, if not more so, and don't produce a damned thing.

-Since the profit motive is PERFECT, the water supply should be entirely privatized and owned by big greedy companies. If the market dictates that you are to pay $20 for a 1 litre bottle of water, then you must faithfully cough up the cash to the righteous and unquestionable, untouchable profiteers !

Yeah, it should be. I live in a town where the water supply is privately held. Up the road, their local government runs their water supply. The government run one just jacked up the usage fees for water because people weren't using enough water. That's right, they weren't using ENOUGH water, so the government jacked up the fees. This as opposed to a privately held water company which would only jack up fees if people started using too much water.

Oh yeah, and our big, greedy corporation charged less money per gallon than their publically held water supply before they jacked up their fees. Now they're paying even more than we pay here. The kicker is that both water supplies come out of the Kentucky River, the exact same source. And they're closer to the river than we are! We have to pipe that water a hell of a lot farther than they do, and we're paying less. Why? Because ours is run by a big, greedy company as opposed to the big, greedy government.

Abso-fucking-lutely, the water system should be privatized.
 

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Why are you arguing with a troll? His debating strategy is to take everything you say, flip it on its side, and then take it to the most extreme absurdity. He's not serious about this subject, don't speak with him about it.
 

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Saint_Proverbius said:
It's not so much capitalism as it is a sense of personal property. If you own things, you're more likely to take care of things as opposed to being given things.
You're also likely to try to maximize your own profit, which becomes a problem when you own, say, infrastructure. Monopolies screw over everyone else other than the monopolist.
 

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kingcomrade said:
Why are you arguing with a troll? His debating strategy is to take everything you say, flip it on its side, and then take it to the most extreme absurdity. He's not serious about this subject, don't speak with him about it.

Less talk, moar WH40k pix.
 

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Araanor said:
You're also likely to try to maximize your own profit, which becomes a problem when you own, say, infrastructure. Monopolies screw over everyone else other than the monopolist.

The government is also a monopoly. One with guns, and in our case a raft of ever demanding unions that hamper productivity while demanding wage rises. And striking all the time:

Strikes-public-and-privat.jpg


Bear in mind the private sector employs 4x as many people as the public. That means a public sector employee, despite not being ruthlessly exploited by evil capitalists is 100x more likely to go on strike than a private sector employee. Every household in Britain now has $140K in public secor debt hanging around its neck thanks to these clowns. 'Free' gets really expensive really quickly.
 

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kingcomrade said:
Why are you arguing with a troll? His debating strategy is to take everything you say, flip it on its side, and then take it to the most extreme absurdity.

That and make shit up about how awesome he is. Just because someone is articulate doesn't mean that they aren't writing bullshit, people. What the fuck is wrong with everyone?
 

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MisterStone said:
kingcomrade said:
Why are you arguing with a troll? His debating strategy is to take everything you say, flip it on its side, and then take it to the most extreme absurdity.

That and make shit up about how awesome he is. Just because someone is articulate doesn't mean that they aren't writing bullshit, people. What the fuck is wrong with everyone?

People are afraid of words longer than 6 letters, is all. We grow up being taught that intelligence = writing/maths. Apparently "You're a dumbfuck." is somehow worse than "You sound really edjumifcated and stuff! I should get me some of that edjumification! -derrr"

Also, a free trial of Grimoire will probably come packaged with Duke Nukem Forever.
 

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Oarfish said:
The government is also a monopoly. One with guns, and in our case a raft of ever demanding unions that hamper productivity while demanding wage rises. And striking all the time:
Which is why we have elections. There's accountability. The only accountability of corporations are to profit and any eventual regulations. You can vote out a person/party with crappy policies. You can't vote away a company with crappy services/prices. You can only vote with your cash, and that only works if there are alternatives (and they may be colluding in an oligopoly, sheesh).
 

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Er, didn't you have the same government for nearly half a century? Elections in the anglo saxon world used to be about setting the boundaries of the state rather than the method of administration. Britain was reduced to an economic wreck by the toxic combination of huge vertical nationalised industries and a goverment in hoc to their unions.

and they may be colluding in an oligopoly, sheesh

To break up collusion is a job for goverment, not setting itself up in its place. 'Government' is not the current bunch of idiots pretending to be in charge. Especialy when 70% of your legislation originates in an unelected transnational executive. Give me powerful and accountable local goverment along the lines of the Swiss cantons and I would be rather more inclined to trust them with my cash. Course, they tend to be low tax regimes..
 

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