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[Trash]

400 square meters? Is it shaped like your mom's bosom? Nothing says "security" like mom's bosom!

Personally I prefer the womb.

 

[Goliath]

He did mention one time how his bones had the density of depleted uranium armor.

I didn't read his mental disfunctions that carefully. However how can his bones have the density of titanium and uranium at the same time?
As I said he seems to be "way, way past" physics..

 

[bryce777]

Well, titanium is actually not very dense at all

Yep. Titanium (Ti) has a density of only 4,51 g/cm3 - not dense at all. He should have said his bones are made of lead (11,34 g/cm3) or uranium (18,97 g/cm3). I guess he is "way, way past" physics

LOL...oh, and I forgot about the depleted uranium thing, which is patently ridiculous.

 

[bryce777]

Never forget 9/11

Notice how whatever scenario the Americans come up with these days, no
matter what happens the shopping malls don't close and food courts
continue to remain in service. That is because most "Americans" (?)
are clinically insane and have completely lost touch with reality.
Feelings of immunity or invulnerability because of the loose precedent
of the past 40 years is a seriously schizoid view of the world we live
in ... that is all about to end.


I had a good laugh watching you all run around after Sept. 11 trying
desperately to buy the gas masks I told you to purchase three years
beforehand. I drank a big iced tea and laughed and laughed. You were
in quite a dumb animal panic, weren't you? Your poor little cerebrums
has a brief glimpse of the possibilities.


Believe me, your tiny brains could never imagine what is in store for
you eventually. But don't listen. Just keep shopping at those food
courts and watching Jerry Springer, I'm sure you will defy all the
known laws of physics and continue in happy-TV land forever and ever.

He's pretty much right...

Well, actually, he's pretty wrong.

• I bought a gas mask for a halloween gag about 15 years ago. I have never needed it for anything other than that halloween gag. In fact, it's stayed packed up in a box for the last nine years. I never even considered getting it out after 9/11.
• I watched Jerry Springer a few times when nothing else was on but infommercials, and I'm quite aware the show is staged.
• Don't think I've eaten in a food court anywhere other than an airport my entire life. That would be once when my flight was delayed in Chicago.
• Feelings of immunity are pretty well founded. I'm more likely to die in a car wreck than from an attack - yet I still drive.

I could go on, but there's no way in hell I'm going to live my life differently out of some paranoid, chickenshit delusion that the world is coming to an abrupt, cataclysmic end. I'm certainly not going to move out of my townhouse and in to a bomb shelter because of some wacked out people who think America is the Great Satan.

I'd like to also point out how utterly ironic it is for someone who LIVES IN A HOLE IN THE GROUND OUT OF FEAR to preach to any American who might have been afraid after 9/11 for buying a gas mask.

Yes, that's right. Cleve is a fat chickenshit douche.

And while I'm on the subject of him being a fat chickenshit douche:

A guy who builds a 400 square meter underground blast shelter is way, way past politics, kids. When you're a grownup you'll understand. Somebody like that would be so far past the point of believing they could change anything for the better they would have withdrawn completely from the marketplace of ideas altogether.

No, a guy who lives in a bomb shelter is a fucking pussy. See, you criticise Americans for moving on after 9/11. Guess what, that's what NORMAL people do! You have a crisis, you deal with it, and you MOVE ON. You don't MOVE UNDERGROUND and preach to other people about how silly they are for being afraid, because that makes you a hypocrit.

400 square meters? Is it shaped like your mom's bosom? Nothing says "security" like mom's bosom!

You make some pretty damn good points. I am laughing my ass off....

 

[Rat Keeng]

He can't be that bad, just look at how he's making us all laugh.

I can see why you'd want to buy a game Hitler made, considering gas prices soaring uncontrollably, and the Rosenblatt section being overcrowded. And if you register the game online, you'll get a picture of the filthy Israelit, who was cleansed with your help. Nothing wrong with overlooking genocide, if it gets you 80 hours of solid gameplay.

 

[bryce777]

He can't be that bad, just look at how he's making us all laugh.

I can see why you'd want to buy a game Hitler made, considering gas prices soaring uncontrollably, and the Rosenblatt section being overcrowded. And if you register the game online, you'll get a picture of the filthy Israelit, who was cleansed with your help. Nothing wrong with overlooking genocide, if it gets you 80 hours of solid gameplay.

If you put it in those terms, then yes, genocide is quite acceptable.

 

[Naked_Lunch]

Geneocide is nature's way of saying which race is better.

 

[Sandelfron]

(Apologies for dredging this thread from page 2, but I came in late)

I read this thread, looked at his site, swilled it around a bit and came
to the conclusion that either this guy is creating the cretinous hate
persona for craven publicity, or he's a maggot that actually believes
the crap he spouts.

Either way he badly needs his typing fingers 'disabled' with a lump-hammer.

Some will probably buy his games regardless. Personally I don't
seperate the author (or company) from the product and avoid
games that *contain needless politics, or that are written by bigots.

I can't help thinking what it'd be like if he and Derek Smart (Phd)
had a contract where they had to work together.

*e.g. Red Faction, Soldiers of Anarchy etc.

 

[Saint_Proverbius]

I can't help thinking what it'd be like if he and Derek Smart (Phd)
had a contract where they had to work together.

Derek Smart can actually finish a game. In fact, I think Derek Smart has done five or six games while Cleve has been working on Grimoire.

Derek Smart may well get himself in to flame wars, but he's never said openly stupid things like Cleve has like how 9/11 was "hah hah funny".

 

[Sandelfron]

I can't help thinking what it'd be like if he and Derek Smart (Phd)
had a contract where they had to work together.

Derek Smart can actually finish a game. In fact, I think Derek Smart has done five or six games while Cleve has been working on Grimoire.

Derek Smart may well get himself in to flame wars, but he's never said openly stupid things like Cleve has like how 9/11 was "hah hah funny".

This is true. My esteem for game developers around the world has
gone up by +1 point to balance out the existence of this individual.

 

[Spazmo]

Derek Smart may well get himself in to flame wars, but he's never said openly stupid things like Cleve has like how 9/11 was "hah hah funny".

Smart may not be anything like as offensive as Cleve, but there's no way he's never said anything stupid. Things like "[upcoming game he's making] will be good!" are always winners. My personal favourite was when he threatened to buy the FreeSpace license and announced that he would use his legal rights terminate all mod projects because the FreeSpace community reacted by saying something like "Good God anyone but Derek Smart!"

Frankly, Smart and Blakemore have about the same problem. They're both talentless hacks with overblown egos who surround themselves with toadying brainwashed fans to convince themselves they're good. It's just that Blakemore is a lot nuttier than Smart.

 

[Sandelfron]

Derek Smart may well get himself in to flame wars, but he's never said openly stupid things like Cleve has like how 9/11 was "hah hah funny".

Smart may not be anything like as offensive as Cleve, but there's no way he's never said anything stupid. Things like "[upcoming game he's making] will be good!" are always winners.

I've yet to see a developer not describing their latest game as 'teh best eva'.
Buy our game, it's emphatically ok-ish! Smart is basically a turkey farm though.

My personal favourite was when he threatened to buy the FreeSpace license and announced that he would use his legal rights terminate all mod projects because the FreeSpace community reacted by saying something like "Good God anyone but Derek Smart!"

Typical Smart, permanently spitting the dummy.

Frankly, Smart and Blakemore have about the same problem. They're both talentless hacks with overblown egos who surround themselves with toadying brainwashed fans to convince themselves they're good. It's just that Blakemore is a lot nuttier than Smart.

Then again, Smart did forge his own racist hate-mail. That's pretty low.

 

[TheGreatGodPan]

Derek Smart can actually finish a game. In fact, I think Derek Smart has done five or six games while Cleve has been working on Grimoire.

I thought Cleve did a bunch of games for Ahoy! magazine.

I've never his played his games, but despite his wackiness, I have to respect Derek. He released BC3K for free when he felt the version in stores wasn't good enough, and it had the fanatical attention to detail that he had claimed it would.

 

[Naked_Lunch]

Universal Combat wasn't that bad, either. I bought for $30 and I felt like I got my money's worth.

 

[Shagnak]

Derek Smart can actually finish a game. In fact, I think Derek Smart has done five or six games while Cleve has been working on Grimoire.

I thought Cleve did a bunch of games for Ahoy! magazine.

Yeah, he finished a whole raft of games for the C64 for Ahoy! magazine.
Rather different in scale to the Wizardry clone that he is doing now, though.

Here's a list of his C64 games:
http://members.tripod.com/~panks/ahoycleve.html

Between 1985 and 1988, Cleve produced no less than 20+ games and utilities for the Commodore 64/128 computer.

Well, he used to be able to finish shit.

 

[errorcode]

DAMMIT!!!

now i don't know who to actively hate more...This douche or Fred "God hates you" Phelps!!

Damn you Codex!!!

 

[Seven]

DAMMIT!!!

now i don't know who to actively hate more...This douche or Fred "God hates you" Phelps!!

Damn you Codex!!!

Do what I do, actively hate every one equally.

 

[Sol Invictus]

Hey, look, a disclaimer:

Disclaimer by the current management (April 18th, 2008): RPGCodex has no evidence whatsoever of ties between Cleve Blakemore and various shady groups. We have seen no factual evidence that by supporting Cleve Blakemore or the game he is developing, you are in any way supporting shady nazi organizations. The sentiments expressed in this newspost are those of Sol Invictus, and are seemingly based on various Usenet and forum posts by Cleve Blakemore. I wish Sol Invictus had included links with all of the quotes he posted here and in our comments, but he didn't, so nuts to us. Now, back to the original news post:

Now for a disclaimer of my own:
I have no factual evidence whatsoever that Cleve is an actual "Nazi" belonging to any nationalist socialist or any other racist, or terrorist organization. It is with absolute certainty that I say that it was never my intention to present any evidence for such a scenario.

I am of the opinion that his words share and reflect a similarity to words generally expressed by racists, independent of any political movement or militant organization. I was merely expressing my distaste in his opinions, of which he is completely free to express regardless of what I think. As Cleve Blakemore himself posted those words on a PUBLIC FORUM, I felt with utmost certainty that I was within my individual rights to criticize him for his opinions which he expressed so very loudly at the time, in a PUBLIC FORUM. RPG Codex (and Saint Proverbius by extension) felt that it was within their rights to allow it to be published and remain published regardless of Cleve Blakemore's displeasure towards criticism about words that he himself typed, to post on a PUBLIC FORUM to engage in spirited debate against other users of that venue.

I should also add that I was being facetious when I called the subject of the post "Support Nazism by Supporting Grimoire". This is called satire. Watch Jon Stewart or Stephen Colbert. You'll get the hang of it.

The decision to keep the posts online, or to remove them, remains in the hands of the staff of RPG Codex, of which I am not part.

For reference, here's the post by Cleve Blakemore on the topic regarding England. This was made on a public forum: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg and can be viewed at the following address:

http://groups.google.com.sg/group/comp. ... e2c62cd978

British Socialists Sell Children's Body Parts Before and After Death


In article <95722q>,
ljw1...@cus.cam.ac.uk (Lucian Wischik) wrote:

> mark edward hardwidge <hardw> wrote:
> (5) The PM chooses about twenty MPs to become fellow ministers. (the
> Minister of State is like America's Secretary of State.)

I laughed out loud when I discovered how it works here in Australia,
almost identical to the British system. Only a large naked primate with
very primitive speech capabilities and no abstract reasoning abilities
of any kind could be fooled into thinking they have a "choice" under
such a "government."

It is quite a joke and the punchline is when they label it a
representative democracy. Basically, you choose between two groups of
thugs and once chosen the thugs choose their own gang, big choice
involved. Compared to the american system where nobody (theoretically)
who can levy taxation is unelected, these "parliamentary" systems are
really Jane Goodall documentaries featuring competing groups of
pathetic genetically inferior apes at war with one another for
temporary supremacy in affairs much like crime gangs who vie for
influence. It is scum vs scum and you, (if you're lucky, there is lots
of voter fraud here in Oz) you get to choose which leader of the gang
of thugs will be buggering you for the next few years.

Once in power, all these parties implement the same essential socialist
NWO legislature anyway to show which side their bread is really
buttered on, so it doesn't matter which group of thugs you elect ... it
is just a choice of penetration dildos. You can bend over and take the
72 inch 4 inch diameter black mambo pleasure master, but if you don't
like that one you can bend over and take the 96 inch pink puffy orgasmo
rod with vibrating feather action. Nevertheless at the end of the vote
count you assume the usual position and grab your ankles after dropping
your pants irregardless. It is all steps to go for the NWO, no matter
which party is in place.

I don't know what the little brit subhumans are complaining about
anyway, all they are doing is wailing inside their stables and waking
up the other animals inside the barn because they are grieving about
their masters making human jigsaw puzzles out of the dead remains of
their children. All the countries involved in the european union have
been moving towards this chop-n-shop-by-default for the bodies of their
domesticated livestock for some time. After surrendering their arms,
their freedom of speech and every right they have in the name of
"security," a brit subhuman has long since lost any right to even
grieve over his own children. He has surrendered his rights in the
interest of "more security," and like the Renaissance genius Ben
Franklin pointed out, any anal savaging that follows is exactly what
the pitiful little BBC watching sunken-chested girly-boy Brits had
coming. You're a stupid people, doomed to learn lessons from the past
history of mankind the hard way and your tortured screams of
unspeakable horror are like music to my ears because at least you are
learning something however useless it may be to you at this point.

Remember, in the New World Order, nobody will sell you a permit to
scream.

Stop your bleating, go back to your dingy little flats and plop down in
your narrow tiny living rooms on rented government space and watch your
interesting and engaging BBC shows on various aspects of multicultural
progress in your society. Like the main character in "Brazil," the only
place you can truly escape to is inside your own mind, so strive for
insanity every waking moment and a flight into a pleasant fantasy world
where Harry Tuttle descends on his rappelling wire with his freedom
fighters (in the fantasy, Harry didn't surrender his guns like you did)
and rescues you from the hideously evil all-powerful government. But
forget about your kids because in Britain they were destined for
dogfood the second they lost a pulse. Being an American I tend to
regard those who approve of arms confiscation as mere animals and far
less than human so I can't really sympathize with you.

What were you thinking of trying to reproduce yourselves, anyway?
Children are for humans with a future and you have none. Please stop
carrying out these dry natural rituals with no significance to barnyard
property like yourself. "No sex please, we're British!" I don't think I
could even GET an erection for a British girl, the shriveled-up little
socialist slaves put me off that much. Liz Hurley makes me feel ill to
look at, a dried-up pencil-thin socialist photo op? Yuck, she is
disgusting like all British women. They're horrid lanky, stringy horses
(dole diets) with atypical bad British teeth. How about you go and have
a nice thick vanilla milkshake you friggin' commie hags.

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Further reference: The post Cleve Blakemore made with regards to Australia:
http://groups.google.com.sg/group/aus.c ... 18e7c8e753

In article <3758a8b4>,

poda...@tno.funny.tricks.with.apana wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Jun 1999 10:22:14 GMT, Cleve Blakemore
> <cleve_blakem> wrote:
> Is that something like `manifest destiny'? I'd ROFL, but there is too
> much blood associated with that particular tribal psychosis. Come back
> when you have more to offer than slogans your partner read off your
> t-shirt. We're discussing 1999 Aus. Govt. policy, not long-settled
> 1950's hypotheses.

> Do me a favour - Don't pretend to have scientific credence in an area
> with an overepresentation of tertiary educated people, discussing
> policy of a highly literate society. We've got our own clowns.

I said it before, now I'm saying it again - the Australian is weak.
He's bad stock. His mind is weak, he is feeble emotionally, he lacks
conviction or passion ... everything about him reads EXACTLY like those
court decisions handed down from Britain centuries ago describing the
reasons a man should be deported to Australia. He has trouble thinking
clearly. His mind doesn't function very quickly or very accurately.
Aside from drunken brawls with his mates, he would never think to
challenge authority or assert himself, he is passive by nature. He's a
broken man, like a penal convict. He's broken spirited with all that
implies.

They've been socialist (like all intellectually inferior peoples) for a
century - Australia's status as a "Free" country was always a token
label, they were included in the lists of democratic nations more out
of pity than respect. This has all been coming for a long time. They
were destined for totalitarianism, it has just taken a couple of years
to warm up. These men were never strong or hardy enough after the
ravages of WWII to front any opposition to a parental government. They
just don't have enough spunk or fight in them. They barely even have a
military of their own to speak of, they generally rely on the graces of
nations with nuclear weapons to protect themselves, like drunken bums
who panhandle the international community for security handouts.

They gave up their guns without so much as a whimper, they bent over
like bitches the second the government said so. They have had serious
censorship and government controls for a decade or so without a
complaint of any real magnitude. They just aren't Chuck Yeager - they
don't have the "right" stuff anymore.

Before WWII, you still had plenty of pioneers and freemen ... most of
the good ones died in the war, leaving the ratfaced finks and quasi-
commie labor scum behind. There just aren't enough good ones left to
mount a defense against the complacent and cowardly mob who are
desperate to sacrifice all their freedoms for the government's
"protection." The vicious cycle of dependency right down the socialist
toilet has been swirling for a long time in Oz.

I was at the protest on Friday ... it was pathetic. A couple of
greenies, some students who would turn out to protest a change in the
weather and a bunch of hippie herbal dope smokers and grunge bands. The
Australians had a chance to show their true colors on May 28th and they
showed them alright - YELLOW.

The truth is, they are a bunch of mental defectives - give 'em a footy
match and some peanuts, they'd let bureaucrats fuck their daughters for
a sports jersey and see them sold off into white slavery, they wouldn't
care one way or another. Sitting on their pub stools drinking their
Foster's and yanking pokey machine handles to waste their pension
checks from their all powerful mother and father, the State ... they're
really fugging pathetic creatures. I'm not sure Australians actually
qualify as human beings.

Sum it up? He's the sick man of the Pacific, the Australian is
something I never want to be. I'm not ashamed of myself or my culture
and I'm sure as hell not interested in discussing my natural rights to
freedom of speech as "discussing policy of a highly literate society."
It went beyond that a long time ago, "podala." You're a frigging
weakling, truth be known. It is that simple. You're scared, period. You
try to make your sickness sound like a virtue - but life isn't that
easy.

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[Admiral Rimjob POOBUM]

Oh, goodie, I was always rather sad that I missed this nonsense the first time around.

 

[The Vanished One]

Cleve Blakemore announced today that the final beta testing for the long awaited Old School RPG Grimoire would begin on Friday of this week, with world wide release of the game scheduled for October of THIS YEAR!! Since several prominent members of the RPGDot community are involved with this beta, you can be assured of continuing coverage. Finally, the day many said would NEVER arrive is almost upon us. Grimoire is definitely coming!!

Posted Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:07 pm

http://www.rpgdot.com/phpBB2/viewtopic. ... f388cd3099

What is this game anyway?

 

[Calis]

(stuff)

Okay, thanks for the links and the explanation. Disclaimer removed (since I like yours better). I now intend to do exactly nothing unless someone here gets served with some kind of court document - preferably one that, y'know, instead of making vague allusions about libel actually *points out* the libel.

 

[Sir_Brennus]

Hi Sol!

How is Fagshit's Shallowgate:London community in Korea coming along?

BTW: Thank you for dissing me on the IIRC.

 

[Jaime Lannister]

I think everyone should have to type a really long disclaimer whenever they make possibly offensive posts. After all, this is the Codex and everyone should be treated equal.

And if the disclaimer states the obvious and takes two years and eight months to write? More power to you. I mean, we are a democracy here.

I feel like somebody won't get the sarcasm. I look forward to replies.

 

[Edward_R_Murrow]

I think everyone should have to type a really long disclaimer whenever they make possibly offensive posts. After all, this is the Codex and everyone should be treated equal.

I agree. And we need mandatory sensitivity training as well so people's feelings aren't hurt by mean words.

And if the disclaimer states the obvious and takes two years and eight months to write? More power to you. I mean, we are a democracy here.

Results don't matter, unless you are a silly capitalist drone. You can fuck up as much as you want and the community will join hands and support everyone. Because it's the thought that counts, not what actually happens based on your actions.

I feel like somebody won't get the sarcasm. I look forward to replies.

Me too.

 

[denizsi]

Sol Invictus returned and exposed the dirty truth!

I agree. And we need mandatory sensitivity training as well so people's feelings aren't hurt by mean words.

Oh the irony! Please don't use the word "mandatory" or any word containing the first 5 letters in that order again! One of the meanings of the word "manda" in my language is a puppet state governed by foreign western nations during Ottoman Empire's fall (used to refer to the majority of the Ottoman states), so it's offending and hurtful to see it used, reminiscent of the past. Thank you.

I feel like somebody won't get the sarcasm. I look forward to replies.

Me too.

There is nothing like jumping on a bandwagon