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Game News Support Nazism by Supporting Grimoire

Discussion in 'News & Content Feedback' started by Sol Invictus, Jul 5, 2005.

  1. Trash Pointing and laughing.

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    Personally I prefer the womb.
     
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  2. Goliath Arcane Zionist Agent

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    I didn't read his mental disfunctions that carefully. However how can his bones have the density of titanium and uranium at the same time? :?
    As I said he seems to be "way, way past" physics.. :lol:
     
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  3. bryce777 Erudite

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    LOL...oh, and I forgot about the depleted uranium thing, which is patently ridiculous.
     
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  4. bryce777 Erudite

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    You make some pretty damn good points. I am laughing my ass off....
     
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  5. Rat Keeng Liturgist

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    He can't be that bad, just look at how he's making us all laugh.

    I can see why you'd want to buy a game Hitler made, considering gas prices soaring uncontrollably, and the Rosenblatt section being overcrowded. And if you register the game online, you'll get a picture of the filthy Israelit, who was cleansed with your help. Nothing wrong with overlooking genocide, if it gets you 80 hours of solid gameplay.
     
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  6. bryce777 Erudite

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    If you put it in those terms, then yes, genocide is quite acceptable.
     
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  7. Naked_Lunch Erudite

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    Geneocide is nature's way of saying which race is better.
     
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  8. Sandelfron Scholar

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    (Apologies for dredging this thread from page 2, but I came in late)

    I read this thread, looked at his site, swilled it around a bit and came
    to the conclusion that either this guy is creating the cretinous hate
    persona for craven publicity, or he's a maggot that actually believes
    the crap he spouts.

    Either way he badly needs his typing fingers 'disabled' with a lump-hammer.

    Some will probably buy his games regardless. Personally I don't
    seperate the author (or company) from the product and avoid
    games that *contain needless politics, or that are written by bigots.

    I can't help thinking what it'd be like if he and Derek Smart (Phd)
    had a contract where they had to work together. :cool:

    *e.g. Red Faction, Soldiers of Anarchy etc.
     
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  9. Saint_Proverbius Arcane Patron

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    Derek Smart can actually finish a game. In fact, I think Derek Smart has done five or six games while Cleve has been working on Grimoire.

    Derek Smart may well get himself in to flame wars, but he's never said openly stupid things like Cleve has like how 9/11 was "hah hah funny".
     
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  10. Sandelfron Scholar

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    This is true. My esteem for game developers around the world has
    gone up by +1 point to balance out the existence of this individual.
     
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  11. Spazmo Erudite

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    Smart may not be anything like as offensive as Cleve, but there's no way he's never said anything stupid. Things like "[upcoming game he's making] will be good!" are always winners. My personal favourite was when he threatened to buy the FreeSpace license and announced that he would use his legal rights terminate all mod projects because the FreeSpace community reacted by saying something like "Good God anyone but Derek Smart!"

    Frankly, Smart and Blakemore have about the same problem. They're both talentless hacks with overblown egos who surround themselves with toadying brainwashed fans to convince themselves they're good. It's just that Blakemore is a lot nuttier than Smart.
     
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  12. Sandelfron Scholar

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    I've yet to see a developer not describing their latest game as 'teh best eva'.
    Buy our game, it's emphatically ok-ish! Smart is basically a turkey farm though.
    Typical Smart, permanently spitting the dummy. :cool:
    Then again, Smart did forge his own racist hate-mail. That's pretty low.
     
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  13. TheGreatGodPan Arbiter

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    I thought Cleve did a bunch of games for Ahoy! magazine.

    I've never his played his games, but despite his wackiness, I have to respect Derek. He released BC3K for free when he felt the version in stores wasn't good enough, and it had the fanatical attention to detail that he had claimed it would.
     
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  14. Naked_Lunch Erudite

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    Universal Combat wasn't that bad, either. I bought for $30 and I felt like I got my money's worth.
     
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  15. Shagnak Shagadelic

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    Yeah, he finished a whole raft of games for the C64 for Ahoy! magazine.
    Rather different in scale to the Wizardry clone that he is doing now, though.

    Here's a list of his C64 games:
    http://members.tripod.com/~panks/ahoycleve.html

    Well, he used to be able to finish shit.
     
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  16. errorcode Liturgist

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    DAMMIT!!!

    now i don't know who to actively hate more...This douche or Fred "God hates you" Phelps!!

    Damn you Codex!!!
     
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  17. Seven Erudite

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    Do what I do, actively hate every one equally.
     
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  18. Sol Invictus Erudite

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    Hey, look, a disclaimer:
    Now for a disclaimer of my own:
    I have no factual evidence whatsoever that Cleve is an actual "Nazi" belonging to any nationalist socialist or any other racist, or terrorist organization. It is with absolute certainty that I say that it was never my intention to present any evidence for such a scenario.

    I am of the opinion that his words share and reflect a similarity to words generally expressed by racists, independent of any political movement or militant organization. I was merely expressing my distaste in his opinions, of which he is completely free to express regardless of what I think. As Cleve Blakemore himself posted those words on a PUBLIC FORUM, I felt with utmost certainty that I was within my individual rights to criticize him for his opinions which he expressed so very loudly at the time, in a PUBLIC FORUM. RPG Codex (and Saint Proverbius by extension) felt that it was within their rights to allow it to be published and remain published regardless of Cleve Blakemore's displeasure towards criticism about words that he himself typed, to post on a PUBLIC FORUM to engage in spirited debate against other users of that venue.

    I should also add that I was being facetious when I called the subject of the post "Support Nazism by Supporting Grimoire". This is called satire. Watch Jon Stewart or Stephen Colbert. You'll get the hang of it.

    The decision to keep the posts online, or to remove them, remains in the hands of the staff of RPG Codex, of which I am not part.

    For reference, here's the post by Cleve Blakemore on the topic regarding England. This was made on a public forum: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg and can be viewed at the following address:

    http://groups.google.com.sg/group/comp. ... e2c62cd978

    Further reference: The post Cleve Blakemore made with regards to Australia:
    http://groups.google.com.sg/group/aus.c ... 18e7c8e753

     
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  19. Admiral Rimjob POOBUM Arcane

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    Oh, goodie, I was always rather sad that I missed this nonsense the first time around.
     
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  20. The Vanished One Prophet

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    Posted Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:07 pm

    http://www.rpgdot.com/phpBB2/viewtopic. ... f388cd3099

    What is this game anyway?
     
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  21. Calis Pensionado

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    Okay, thanks for the links and the explanation. Disclaimer removed (since I like yours better). I now intend to do exactly nothing unless someone here gets served with some kind of court document - preferably one that, y'know, instead of making vague allusions about libel actually *points out* the libel.
     
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  22. Sir_Brennus Scholar

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    Hi Sol!

    How is Fagshit's Shallowgate:London community in Korea coming along?

    BTW: Thank you for dissing me on the IIRC.
     
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  23. Jaime Lannister Arbiter

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    I think everyone should have to type a really long disclaimer whenever they make possibly offensive posts. After all, this is the Codex and everyone should be treated equal.

    And if the disclaimer states the obvious and takes two years and eight months to write? More power to you. I mean, we are a democracy here.

    I feel like somebody won't get the sarcasm. I look forward to replies.
     
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  24. Edward_R_Murrow Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    I agree. And we need mandatory sensitivity training as well so people's feelings aren't hurt by mean words.

    Results don't matter, unless you are a silly capitalist drone. You can fuck up as much as you want and the community will join hands and support everyone. Because it's the thought that counts, not what actually happens based on your actions.

    Me too.
     
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  25. denizsi Arcane

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    Sol Invictus returned and exposed the dirty truth!

    Oh the irony! Please don't use the word "mandatory" or any word containing the first 5 letters in that order again! One of the meanings of the word "manda" in my language is a puppet state governed by foreign western nations during Ottoman Empire's fall (used to refer to the majority of the Ottoman states), so it's offending and hurtful to see it used, reminiscent of the past. Thank you.

    There is nothing like jumping on a bandwagon
     
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