KickStarter Swordhaven: Iron Conspiracy - BG1-inspired low fantasy RPG From the ATOM TEAM - Kickstarter Live

[Litmanen]

With the gaping trailer-shaped wound in my soul aching a bit less, I'm back! Thanks for all the feedback, we tried to do better with the second one. You know how these things go. You're tired, your eyes hurt, you like spinning the camera too much, you film it, you publish it online maybe... There's always a good side to those things, for example those pesky skeptics who thought I lied when I said we don't really know how to market our stuff got pwnd big time!

Atomboy What's with the striped signpost at 0:20? Looks anachronistic.

We get that a lot, but one of us did a research and it turned out they painted those like this since the Renaissance, and we're sort of there chronologically.

Common the game looks fantastic, I've had it with your negativity.

I'm looking forward to the game, played both Atoms and enjoyed them a lot. But it is true that the trailer looked kind of meh.

Thanks! It really did!

That's the kind of trailer, even when labeled Alpha, that affects a game negatively more than anything. If not for knowing that this is coming from ATOM dev I would instantly put the game on ignore category.

Very bad frame rate, awkward music, and literally nothing happens except walking in the first 20 - 30 seconds but instead of a beautiful pre-rendered environment like in PoE games whose look is actually an attraction, it's just average-looking assets in average looking environment.

Then what, 10 seconds of 2 guys standing over a "secret" pit with the camera rotating around them.

Then 10 seconds of hitting rat and dogs in a VERY SLOW combat with only auto attacks.

We pretty much did poorly with this one, BUT! The pit is kind of hard to spot without appropriate stats! And the combat speed goes up to 300%. The guy filming had his on the slowest setting. Also it looks to me as if the framerate is the recording's fault. My copy is running at all kinda of top FPS. Gotcha covered!

You can clearly tell the dev takes codex advice to heart since there's 200% more camera spinning.

Also the voice over doesn't really match up with the action and it's distracting.

This time it's only PLOT-RELATED camera spinning! This one actually happens in the game if you do a certain thing to a witch.
We went through every new line in this thread since day one and the codex really did push us to improve this thing. Though in hindsight maybe I should've written the narration before finalizing the footage. You live and you learn!

I would probably rename the trailer to Alpha Sneak Peek or something. There's not enough interesting things to call it a full trailer and we're probably too far out from launch to even need one yet.

Words matter. Calling it a trailer makes people think that's the best you have to offer. This video only confirms things (medieval RPG, in the forest, loot, turn-based combat, etc) but it doesn't have any kind of hook.

I think we'll do one better and make it invisible now that the updated one is out!

Swordhaven really reminds me of Hard To Be A God. In more ways then one. Overall my intuition feels good about this one...

Can you tell me why though? Very curious...

Problem with the trailer is that it makes Swordhaven look like generic fantasy without any hook.
There's no premise of the game shown, no concept art, no nothing beyond generic "medieval" assets and hard to read font.

Compare that to early trailers for ATOM, which managed to give identity for the game, despite not being that much more technically complex.

Thing is, most of us find Atom's trailers really cringy. Maybe they're okay from the outside looking in, but for us... a different story. So this one was like a conscious attempt to step back somewhat from the format of those. Hopefully we got a bit of both worlds with the new narrative one.

needs more camera spinning
this trailer is far better

Thanks!

lmao at 20sec

That's a plot-related spin!

Swordhaven really reminds me of Hard To Be A God. In more ways then one. Overall my intuition feels good about this one...

Such a weird movie. I recommend not eating anything before or during if you are going to watch it.

Movie? It's a book.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_to_Be_a_God

It's a whole bunch of very intriguing things!

That jump at 0:44. That is going to be my go-to skill.

Every weapon style has a jump or two. But this one has the additional benefit of you standing up straight after the jump, hanging out there for a few mincroseconds and then just stabbing the guy out of the blue.
They'll be really cool if we get kickstarter backed animationists tho promise!
WIP! WIP!


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Now I'll take my leave again, those four days really shouldn't go to waste. Squadala, I am off! See you in the Kickstarter timeline!

I'm another one who loved A.T.O.M. and is has chosen to play Trudograd in order to have a satisfying experience after a series of big delusions.

The previous trailer was particularly anonymous, lacking character, which is something we're accustomed to seeing in your games.

This trailer offers much more, thankfully.

However, it still reveals little about the game world, in my opinion, but there have been definite strides forward in terms of marketing, yes

 

[Feyd Rautha]

Many players from the Codex, NMA and similar communities felt that the ATOM games were far too easy, even when you selected the difficulty setting titled "Hard".

What will you do to make Swordcoast feel challenging for experienced players?

e: And not just combat difficulty, I mean balance of economy as well in order to give the player a challenging experience.

 

[just]

do the owlcat way and leave in so many gamebreaking bugs it will be really hard to finish

 

[Jaesun]

Looks good to me. Will back.

 

[Feyd Rautha]

So I've been thinking about this chainmail bikini that was mentioned. It's something natural in fantasy games but have turned into a joke or even haram over time and I understand if you don't intend to have skimpy armour for females.

However you could add one as an easter egg. Like maybe you visit the Duke's wife's room and open her wardrobe and there it is! You take it and even though it gives very little cover it somehow magically gives the wearer an armour bonus... Don't know if you have magical armours though...

Another option would be that you find it in the tomb of a dead princess. You descend the dungeon, enter the tomb, open the princesses chamber and there it is on the skeleton/zombie... However don't know if that flies with your no-magic setting.

Otherwise just have one for sale at the local blacksmith but have it be worthless as armour because of low protection. He intended to create a full chainmail but he was lazy and didn't finish it. So it shows your butt and your cleavage.

 

[Litmanen]

So I've been thinking about this chainmail bikini that was mentioned. It's something natural in fantasy games but have turned into a joke or even haram over time and I understand if you don't intend to have skimpy armour for females.

However you could add one as an easter egg. Like maybe you visit the Duke's wife's room and open her wardrobe and there it is! You take it and even though it gives very little cover it somehow magically gives the wearer an armour bonus... Don't know if you have magical armours though...

Another option would be that you find it in the tomb of a dead princess. You descend the dungeon, enter the tomb, open the princesses chamber and there it is on the skeleton/zombie... However don't know if that flies with your no-magic setting.

Otherwise just have one for sale at the local blacksmith but have it be worthless as armour because of low protection. He intended to create a full chainmail but he was lazy and didn't finish it. So it shows your butt and your cleavage.

But, why?

I mean, is it that important?

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

So I've been thinking about this chainmail bikini that was mentioned. It's something natural in fantasy games but have turned into a joke or even haram over time and I understand if you don't intend to have skimpy armour for females.

However you could add one as an easter egg. Like maybe you visit the Duke's wife's room and open her wardrobe and there it is! You take it and even though it gives very little cover it somehow magically gives the wearer an armour bonus... Don't know if you have magical armours though...

Another option would be that you find it in the tomb of a dead princess. You descend the dungeon, enter the tomb, open the princesses chamber and there it is on the skeleton/zombie... However don't know if that flies with your no-magic setting.

Otherwise just have one for sale at the local blacksmith but have it be worthless as armour because of low protection. He intended to create a full chainmail but he was lazy and didn't finish it. So it shows your butt and your cleavage.

But, why?

I mean, is it that important?

Yes.

 

[Litmanen]

So I've been thinking about this chainmail bikini that was mentioned. It's something natural in fantasy games but have turned into a joke or even haram over time and I understand if you don't intend to have skimpy armour for females.

However you could add one as an easter egg. Like maybe you visit the Duke's wife's room and open her wardrobe and there it is! You take it and even though it gives very little cover it somehow magically gives the wearer an armour bonus... Don't know if you have magical armours though...

Another option would be that you find it in the tomb of a dead princess. You descend the dungeon, enter the tomb, open the princesses chamber and there it is on the skeleton/zombie... However don't know if that flies with your no-magic setting.

Otherwise just have one for sale at the local blacksmith but have it be worthless as armour because of low protection. He intended to create a full chainmail but he was lazy and didn't finish it. So it shows your butt and your cleavage.

But, why?

I mean, is it that important?

Yes.

Ah.

OH.

Ok... (again)

 

[Harthwain]

But, why?

I mean, is it that important?

It is not really "natural in fantasy games". It was simply a way for creators to show off female bodies to attract attention. You can see it on various fantasy book covers. It was then adopted by fantasy games. Is it important? I guess you could call it a tradition of sorts (or an inside joke/easter egg), the same way you have to do rat quests in RPGs.

 

[Tyranicon]

Joke armor is an important tradition, and also possibly useful in the early game. Chainmail bikinis might be borderline useless, but they're still better than nothing.

 

[Atomboy]

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/atomrpg/swordhaven-iron-conspiracy

It's LIVE!!! Its liiiiveee! Oh lord!

 

[Contagium]

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/atomrpg/swordhaven-iron-conspiracy

It's LIVE!!! Its liiiiveee! Oh lord!

BACKED. $16.26 USD well spent I believe. Looking forward to this.

 

[Jaesun]

Backed! Good luck.

 

[Atomboy]

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/atomrpg/swordhaven-iron-conspiracy

It's LIVE!!! Its liiiiveee! Oh lord!

BACKED. $16.26 USD well spent I believe. Looking forward to this.

Thanks dude! It's gonna be pretty cool once we're done with it!

Backed! Good luck.

Thank you! We NEED it

 

[Robber Baron]

wait there's a demo?

 

[Atomboy]

wait there's a demo?

Yes we have a 2-4 hr demo attached to the campaign

 

[Moink]

Backed. Best of luck!

 

[Alienman]

Also went for a 15 euro pledge. Good luck!

 

[Infinitron]

Backed at 50 EU for all three bonus items.

 

[Mikeal]

Godspeed and good luck.

 

[harhar!]

I'm doing my part

 

[Infinitron]

Atomboy Publish an ATOM Kickstarter update about this campaign ASAP: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/atomrpg/atom-rpg/posts

 

[Feyd Rautha]

Man can someone give me 200€ so that I can have my face as a portrait? I will pledge 50€ as Infinitron for now.

And best of luck! Looks great!

e: I would rather have my face in the game than get two copies of it. What am I supposed to do with two copies anyway?

 

[conan_edw]

Did my part, got the €20 pledge. Best of luck

 

[Abu Antar]

wait there's a demo?

Yes we have a 2-4 hr demo attached to the campaign

Will base my pledge based on the demo... tomorrow.