- Sep 16, 2021
You misunderstand: I mean that the "Satan" figure of the Book of Job is very likely not the figured referred to as the Devil in the New Testament (who was the serpent in the garden). "Satan" is not a proper name. Maybe traditional church interpretation differs on this point; I don't know the orthodox position (if there is one on this subject), but from what I've seen, this is a pretty contentious point in biblical study and Patrician's take on it strikes of someone who read the story without any context, saw "Satan" in the text of the translation, and immediately jumped to conclusions. It reminds me a lot of an old Bob Chipman video on this same topic, with the same tone of someone who's read Wikipedia articles and now thinks they hold some kind of clandestine knowledge unknown to the masses.Extremely dubious claim or not - Satan is commonly interpreted by Christians as the serpent in the Garden of Eden (or Lucifer).
He should stick to tangents that are relevant and actually bear upon the point. I don't mind it being long-winded; I wouldn't have watched 32 hours of video reviews if I did. It was just jarring to hear him launch into this retarded 2008-tier tangent that I've heard a million times from numerous faggots, when he's otherwise on-point.You might say "then he could've said so in less words!", but then you miss the point of his "quick retrospectives". Besides, what he says is interesting, so it is worth listening to despite the extra length. At least in my opinion.
Sure, but if a character is simple and somewhat cliche from the get-go, then there's no use in complaining when that character continues to be depicted as such. Mehrunes Dagon in Oblivion isn't decline, it's just a flat line.Just because Daedra started as "shitters who exist only to give the player fancy artifacts" doesn't mean it is not possible to mold them into more interesting characters.
I video recently and Patrician doesn't even seem to actually criticize Dagon's depiction in Oblivion, but rather goes on to say that Oblivion's main quest is very well-written and that Dagon is a more nuanced character than he appears on the surface. Maybe this was all a thought experiment or something and I missed the point, but honestly it's hard to pay attention to a video 100% for 12 consecutive hours.The reason why Satan is not seen as a complex character is because ultimately everything boils down to "Satan bad", which is how Mehrunes Dagon is presented and that was the point Patrician was making when using the comparison.
At one point he brings up the idea that Judas Iscariot was in the right to betray Jesus because it set the atonement into motion (a concept from the apocryphal Gnostic Gospel of Judas) in a comparison with Akatosh being worshipped for killing Lorkhan - this is an example of an actually good religious analogy that bears upon the point.