Elder Scrolls TES Skyrim: A quick 20 hour restrospective

[NecroLord]

20 hour video analysis of Todd Howard lore.
Let's go.

 

[luj1]

Here is a quick summary : "skyrim is TES dumbed down for low IQ/low attention span console peasants"

half finished industrial algorithmic garbage for consoles, devoid of any style or substance, shipped with a toolset to fix the game yourself

 

[DJOGamer PT]

Opened up, he is streaming the video
Didn't complete the Mage Quest back when I played Skyrim
But the detail that Psijic Order are possibly responsible to debuff magic in Tamriel and are trying to prevent anyone from "reviving" magic as it was in the 3rd Era, is a neat explanation why Magic in Skyrim isn't as OP as in Morrowind

 

[DJOGamer PT]

 

[Bad Sector]

Will be interesting to see what he does now that he has talked about all of TES (assuming he continues to ignore daggerfall and arena, which I expect he will).

IIRC from a stream i happened to watch some time ago when he was still uploading them to his main channel (i think he now has a secondary channel for those but i can't say i found the streams that interesting overall) he said he might do a video that covers both of them in the future.

 

[S.torch]

I like how he just said (College of Winterhold part) that Skyrim is a game designed around dudebros and makes magic characters a chore to play, aside from them being a poor option to play when compared to the other playstyles.

 

[PorkyThePaladin]

Wow, I can't even play Skyrim for 20 hours...

Also,

Here is a quick summary : "skyrim is TES dumbed down for low IQ/low attention span console peasants"

Here's a better version: Skyrim is a dumbed down version of TES which is itself a dumbed down version of far better games (UUW and U7:TBG).

 

[Moaning_Clock]

I watched the Morrowind video (which was fantastic and made me like Morrowind even more) and the Oblivion one (which was also a great video but I liked the first one more - the first is rougher and full of weird memes and truly a labor of love). It's great to watch these while working. Looking forward to watch the Skyrim retrospective somewhen in the future. Enough for a quick work session.

 

[Morroweird]

I tuned in for some time and the Patrician was rightfully bashing the Thief's Guild (or was is the Dark Brotherhood) questlines, including nonsensical character motivations for key players.

Make me thing he is more of a story/lore chronicler than desing analyst or big-picture essayist.

 

[Bad Sector]

Make me thing he is more of a story/lore chronicler than desing analyst or big-picture essayist.

He also covers mechanics a lot, i've only watched the first ~1:20h of the first video so far but almost 2/3rd of the "P2.0" section (the first "Companions" part) was about the Werewolf mechanics (with some minor comparison with Morrowind's Bloodmoon mechanics). I think he covers mechanics a lot too and he has made several playthroughs for the video to figure out how (and if) they differ with different characters.

But yeah he also does point out several issues with writing when he encounters them (e.g. the "antagonists" for the Companions) as well as speculation (based on his research) about how it ended up like that.

 

[d1r]

tl;dr
it's good for porn

Saved ya 20 hours. No need to thank me.

 

[Funposter]

I'm about eight hours in after a few sessions of watching, and it's a good review so far. The critique of the magic system is especially important. All known issues, but finally explained by a reviewer in-depth.

 

[quixotic]

Watched the whole thing. (in chunks of course)
I think it’s his best video, it’s really well structured and researched. Despite how long it is, it didn’t FEEL that long.

 

[Chippy]

You guys have to admit that if Bethesda ever create a bug free game, and a system that allows for mods to be installed without conflict & bugs - Todd Howard is gonna be richer than Jeff Bezos.

That'll never happen, but still; I'm sure they're working on it...

Also I only bought this once and missed out on the participation award to get the improved edition. So never bought it again.

 

[whydoibother]

You guys have to admit that if Bethesda ever create a bug free game, and a system that allows for mods to be installed without conflict & bugs - Todd Howard is gonna be richer than Jeff Bezos.

That'll never happen, but still; I'm sure they're working on it...

Also I only bought this once and missed out on the participation award to get the improved edition. So never bought it again.

There's a lot things people complain about when they talk about TES games, and bugs are a minority of the conversation.
A bug free Skyrim is still a Skyrim that has lame fetch/kill quests, gutted dialogue system on par with fucking Diablo, guild and main quests that don't acknowledge each other's states much, level scaling of enemies and items that are unintuitive (leveling fast is bad, doing your build's desired quests first is bad), one of the worst melee systems of any major game (which somehow still is the best of any TES game), and so on.

Watching this review did make me want to play Skyrim again, though. What are some good mods that won't drastically alter the game, but will make playing a mage fun?

 

[Harthwain]

I tuned in for some time and the Patrician was rightfully bashing the Thief's Guild (or was is the Dark Brotherhood) questlines, including nonsensical character motivations for key players.

Make me thing he is more of a story/lore chronicler than desing analyst or big-picture essayist.

Actually, he IS a big-picture guy and design analytic.

While he is covering the story/lore a lot (and for good reasons) it also allows him to discuss games' mechanics/design as he encounters them. The whole categorization of the video by factions is merely to provide a logical structure. It may not be the best if you're looking to hear about specific mechanics/design elements, but that's how he does it and he is able to make it work.

He is the second guy who can talk about any topic in the game and remains interesting, no matter the topic. The first guy being Ross from Game Dungeon (Accursed Farms channel). I mean, the last thing Ross talked about was hoverboarding. Hover. Boarding. These guys just have enough thought/character for this kind of content. It's a shame they don't make videos as often as I'd like them to. But that's the price you have to pay for quality, I guess.

 

[tindrli]

Where is the "never bought it" option?

OP IS GAY

 

[Chippy]

You guys have to admit that if Bethesda ever create a bug free game, and a system that allows for mods to be installed without conflict & bugs - Todd Howard is gonna be richer than Jeff Bezos.

That'll never happen, but still; I'm sure they're working on it...

Also I only bought this once and missed out on the participation award to get the improved edition. So never bought it again.

There's a lot things people complain about when they talk about TES games, and bugs are a minority of the conversation.
A bug free Skyrim is still a Skyrim that has lame fetch/kill quests, gutted dialogue system on par with fucking Diablo, guild and main quests that don't acknowledge each other's states much, level scaling of enemies and items that are unintuitive (leveling fast is bad, doing your build's desired quests first is bad), one of the worst melee systems of any major game (which somehow still is the best of any TES game), and so on.

Watching this review did make me want to play Skyrim again, though. What are some good mods that won't drastically alter the game, but will make playing a mage fun?

You should read the "Improving Skyrim/recommended mod thread (mostly about Requiem)". Here...it seems it's mostly about Requiem. I still need to get to that.

 

[Crispy]

I should do a 20 hour analysis of RPG Codex.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

It's not a review, reviews are a critic giving his opinion for undecided people on whether they should play it or not, so in that case it's supposed to be somewhat short since the reader is not interested enough to go and see it for himself yet.

 

[Ravielsk]

What are some good mods that won't drastically alter the game, but will make playing a mage fun?

Enderal.

I like how he just said (College of Winterhold part) that Skyrim is a game designed around dudebros and makes magic characters a chore to play, aside from them being a poor option to play when compared to the other playstyles.

More like that there is obviously no one at Bethesda who really understand(or cares) how magic works in their own game and so its designed more like a supplement for melee rather than a fully functional playstyle.

 

[whydoibother]

What are some good mods that won't drastically alter the game, but will make playing a mage fun?

Enderal.

Literally a standalone game.

 

[bionicman]

not as good as the quick 12 hour oblivion retrospective https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-otpq6oI2Q

 

[good fucking shit happen]

Watching this review did make me want to play Skyrim again

Shiiieeet so that be how it is. Ya'll love Skyrim so much you'd sit through a 20 hour Todd Howard fanfic reading. 20 hours be nothin when you got like 80000 hours clocked in Skyrim already. Todd better release Starfield soon so B-boys like you can obsess over something new so theres some variety to all this fuckin pole smoking. The fat nerd making these vids is gonna have to spend like 100 hours minimum to cover all those planets.

 

[whydoibother]

Watching this review did make me want to play Skyrim again

Shiiieeet so that be how it is. Ya'll love Skyrim so much you'd sit through a 20 hour Todd Howard fanfic reading. 20 hours be nothin when you got like 80000 hours clocked in Skyrim already. Todd better release Starfield soon so B-boys like you can obsess over something new so theres some variety to all this fuckin pole smoking. The fat nerd making these vids is gonna have to spend like 100 hours minimum to cover all those planets.

Why are you mad about people wanting to play video games?