Interview The Codex Mass Effect interview

[Elhoim]

Leave him banned for a week. It should be fun to have some drama here.

 

[don_tomaso]

Wth pussies.. Volourn has been getting more and more annoying, and for a lurker like me the threads are getting unbearable to read with every other post made by volourn, saying the same things over and over again..
A week in isolation will suit him fine, so dont unban him, and ban everyone who thinks he should be unbanned for a month!

On topic, funny interview, funny screens, lots of lolz, even moreso with the added bioware forum-links.. Top of teh pops

 

[callehe]

you've shattered my illusions about the codex of being a haven for free speech and free libel VD, this thread will haunt my dreams forever..

anyway: vote unban teh honourblade

 

[Chinese Jetpilot]

I thought the interview was very funny and more importantly completely believable based on what information has been released about the game. When VD showed me the interview last week so we could base some screens for it, I looked at the first paragraph:

It's 2138. As Commander Shepard of the SS Normandy, you will take your elite recon squad across a galaxy in turmoil, in a desperate race to stop the return of an enemy without mercy. To stop this enemy, you must act without remorse, without hesitation, and outside the limits of the law. Your only imperative is to preserve the safety of civilized life in the galaxy - at any cost. You must become the tip of the spear of humanity, for you alone know the full extent of what is at stake if you should fail.

Upon reading that, I naturally assumed it was fake and was going to reply back stating he should alter it a bit, because I felt the interview was over-the-top too quickly, and that he should have saved those moments until later in the interview. Then I quickly notice he wrote under it that its an actual statement of the game taken from their website. It doesn't help matters when Casey Hudson writes stuff like this on their IGN weblog:

Hello all! Casey Hudson here, Project Director on BioWare’s “next big thing” – a cinematic depiction of the future called “Mass Effect.” So what are we up to? Well, you probably know the basics: “Mass Effect” puts you in the role of Commander Shepard, best of the best of the human military around 200 years in the future. As Shepard, you’ll scour the far reaches of space to prevent a race of ancient, super-intelligent machines from harvesting all life in the galaxy. It’s a contrast between a beautiful future and its extremely dark secret.

I think Fez summed it up best (of the best) earlier in the thread:

The most important thing to note here is that people did believe it - even the example of the moderator over there. While it is easy to mock people and call them stupid for it, VD's interview was not far off the mark for how the game is being pushed to us all as it is, hence why it is so easy to swallow. If anyone has any sense they'll take it as a wake-up call and either change where the game or the PR is heading.

When looking for some screens of the game, I scoured some of the major sites and watched the videos, and virtually all of them portray the image that Shepard is either violent, impatient, laconic, and EXTREME, and usually all of them at the same time. Now Mass Effect may very well end up being an enjoyable game and I'm looking forward to giving it a try (though I doubt it'll have many of the qualities I look for in an RPG), but if Bioware believes the character and game contain more nuance, they sure haven't shown it in the stuff I've seen and the interviews given. Endless buzzwords like BEST OF THE BEST (which seems to be a staple of every interview lately, heck even the movie 'Best of the Best' didn't mention the phrase), EXTREME, ELITE, DO WHATEVER IT TAKES, etc are all I see. If it really is deeper than what has been portrayed, then the fault lies with your PR department, not on the people who point out that absurdity.

What I find scary is that one of the guys from Bioware had to actually state that the pictures aren't real (though I can understand the interview, because VD had Hudson nailed down pat), including registering here just to state the obvious.

 

[Vault Dweller]

I was surprised myself that so many people took it seriously. Then again, people took what Casey wrote seriously, so...

http://www.gamebanshee.com/forums/gameb ... 84682.html

Yeah, I agree that the word 'extreme' is overused. Anyway, about the main character, this is a welcome change to the typical blank slate most RPGs (and quite a few action games) use as main characters. I already grow tired of playing the role of blank main characters, to be honest.

The mankind is doomed. Where are the fucking robots when you need them? Hasn't it been 50,000 years already?

 

[Claw]

Be steadfast! The ban must stay.

Not funny, neither the misuse of the front page nor the apparent banning of Volourn.

You disgrace my Vaterland. :evil:

it leaves a sour taste that one has to doublecheck now whether the news or genuine or not.

If you have to double-check, you didn't do it right the first time. Don't blame others for your failures.


PS:

I'll be damned. I just saw the thread on gamespot where greatatlantic posted a link to this interview, and nearly everyone was like "Hell, yeah! ME is gonna be so awesome!"
What the fuck? You can't even make fun of ME. It's like letting a chimp run for presidency and watching the people vote him into office! Twice, even.

 

[mister lamat]

man... i miss saint. sad day, this place used to be aces.

 

[obediah]

you've shattered my illusions about the codex of being a haven for free speech and free libel VD, this thread will haunt my dreams forever..

Actually we've established that libel is perfectly okay (at least as long as VD is behind it). Irritating him on the other hand, and he will slap the ban on you. And he's not kidding or bluffing about it either.

The fact that this interview doesn't qualify for the obviously satire exemption to libel (or whatever the legal mumbo jumbo is) says volumes about bioware. However, I can't believe that after the Oblivion fiasco, anyone wants to go further down the bitter shitty-rpg bashing path. It's fun for about 2 threads, and then it's two years later and the fanboys are still streaming in, and VD has explained why Daggerfall is better than Morrowind for the 3,000th time.

 

[mister lamat]

However, I can't believe that after the Oblivion fiasco, anyone wants to go further down the bitter shitty-rpg bashing path. It's fun for about 2 threads, and then it's two years later and the fanboys are still streaming in, and VD has explained why Daggerfall is better than Morrowind for the 3,000th time.

ever notice how cyclical it all is? the exact same jokes, just kinda recycled... pretty sure everything has been said for the three thousandth time.

 

[Chinese Jetpilot]

ever notice how cyclical it all is? the exact same jokes, just kinda recycled...

Hey, I agree. Comedians still make black jokes, even though they've been done to death over several decades and yet people still find them funny. Who gives a fuck?

pretty sure everything has been said for the three thousandth time.

Sure, but you could probably make that same point about any forum. I joined these forums back in 2002 from DAC (though I was under a different account then), I come back several years later and heck, you're all still talking about the same kinds of shit you want seen in RPG's, and the same criticisms.

 

[psycojester]

We're just killing time until the decline ends and games get to the second renaissance. Mind you we'll all be dead by then and humanity will have probably be conquered by the aforementioned robots. But on the upside robots have limitless patience and therefore won't care about fast travel. And being cold and metallic they will have nothing but contempt for the concept of horse armour

 

[mister lamat]

And being cold and metallic they will have nothing but contempt for the concept of horse armour

unless, of course, they're furry robots...

 

[FrancoTAU]

However, I can't believe that after the Oblivion fiasco, anyone wants to go further down the bitter shitty-rpg bashing path. It's fun for about 2 threads, and then it's two years later and the fanboys are still streaming in, and VD has explained why Daggerfall is better than Morrowind for the 3,000th time.

ever notice how cyclical it all is? the exact same jokes, just kinda recycled... pretty sure everything has been said for the three thousandth time.

If you talk to any writers, they all think the last new plot or theme was done by Shakespeare. It's all on the presentation of the tried and true my baby bitch.

Anywho, I'll be honest. I thought the article was bullshit upon just seeing that Bioware gave the Codex an interview. Than I started reading it and thought it was completely legit. By the end though, I thought Casey caught onto the mocking and was just fucking with VD with his answers. Funny shit!

Unban Volly. If you fuckers haven't banned Rex than you have no reasonable explanation to ban anyone else.

 

[psycojester]

unless, of course, they're furry robots...

Now theres a nightmare vision of the future. But would it really be all that bad compared to the society from which such machines would arise? WHO THE FUCK WOULD BUILD FURRY ROBOTS *looks at vipera and jassede accussingly*

 

[Jed]

I think what should be more alarming to BioWare is that the game as presented in the "fake" interview sounds a lot more interesting that what they have planned so far.

Anyway, if this drama will rid us of riff-raff like Mr. Lamat once and for all, then it's worth every angsty post.

 

[Lord Chambers]

Banning Volourn sets a precedent I don't like. Spamming is one thing. Being insulting, wrong, or both is a different matter.

 

[Gambler]

Making a fake interview without mentioning it's a parody gives all your opponents a good reason to whine about it and the website. It also creates ambiguity about your standards. If you had not foreseen these results, it's unprofessional. If you had, it's childish. It's not like making a small note at the end would totally ruin the whole thing.

The only way for me not to fall apart is to ban some poor fucker every few days, which explains the steady population decline.

You should also try tagging users you don't like with some witty special titles. I heard it's a great way to deal with stress, win friends and influence people.

 

[sheek]

Anyway, the above doesn't imply that I'm right. If the community feels strongly about it, I'll unban him today. Otherwise, I'll keep him banned for a week.

Unban Volourn. There's no fucking excuse for this.

 

[mister lamat]

Hey, I agree. Comedians still make black jokes, even though they've been done to death over several decades and yet people still find them funny. Who gives a fuck?

given.

it's just when there is discussion, it's yummy and i like it. hell, even volouball has a few interesting ideas hidden amongst the froth and the illiteracy. it just seems like a lot more people have taken the worst parts of what he/she/it does and that's caused some of the voices i really did like and did enjoy conversing with disappear. for what? some moderately funny satire about a game that'll sell like pancakes and probably wind up in the hands of more than a few of us... if only for the "this is what passes for rpgs? fuck..." and some twitchy good times?

WHO THE FUCK WOULD BUILD FURRY ROBOTS?

the japanese. why? because they have to. it's like a cultural imperative.

 

[Hazelnut]

Just a quick question VD, isn't there a always a fair amount of insulting going on in the posts here at the Codex?

Of course. Let me paint you an analogy though: imagine a "western" town where fights are common and laws are virtually non-existent. Everyone's ok with fights breaking up every now and then, but someone who tries to hit every guy he sees would just annoy people and sooner or later they will throw his ass out. Not for fighting, but for being a dick, if you catch my meaning.

Lately Volourn has been ending his posts with "idiot" or "moron" instead of a signature, snapping at people for no reason. I've already warned him once, and he calmed down for a time, but this time he decided not to. Choices & consequences.

Anyway, the above doesn't imply that I'm right. If the community feels strongly about it, I'll unban him today. Otherwise, I'll keep him banned for a week.

That's pretty much what I thought, but thanks for confirming it. (and making it publicly explicit which I feel is pretty important)

You have my support for keeping him banned for a week, whereas I'm not sure I'd support a permaban because I miss the funny & silly, but intelligent Volly personality.. it's just been a shame that the irritating Volly has been in ascendancy so much of the time recently.

 

[GhanBuriGhan]

Vol belongs to the Codex inventory, like it or not. It's like The Phantom Menace without Jar-Jar - in retrospect it just wouldn't be the same without.

 

[Bradylama]

Right, so it'd be better.

Leave Volly banned for a week. His habits have reached All Your Base levels of old hat.

 

[Hazelnut]

Vol belongs to the Codex inventory, like it or not. It's like The Phantom Menace without Jar-Jar - in retrospect it just wouldn't be the same without.

Hmm, the way you put it makes it sound like a good thing!

(BTW nice to see ya again Ghan)

 

[Kraszu]

From http://www.rpgwatch.com/forums/showthread.php?p=17888 :

i actually go out of my way to try out (and often enjoy) games that RPG Codex doesn't like. simply because i would hate to think that my opinions align with people who have so much time and energy to spend on not liking a bunch of computer games (of all things!).

I am unable to come up whit something as retarded as that, it must be nautral gift.

 

[Briosafreak]

R00fles


Ban Volourn from the internet too, please.