The Codexian Saga LP

[Angelo85]

I can't believe how many of you go for the AI.
Please reconsider. Let me quote the mighty Barbarian here:

controlling everything from production floors to combat vessels

Last time I checked we were in the middle of an economic crises. AI taking over jobs from blue collars as well as combat pilots ain't really helping the economy getting back on track IMHO.

And regarding the Bugs: I understand that we loaned from the joint clans, I don't think it was a decision of a single clan to hand us over trillion of credits (also, if a single clan could easily loan away a trillion credits they truly are super rich). I fear they will ask us to go for war with the Turanei at some point.

I suspect them to be treacherous creatures and if we don't comply they will hand "evidence" to the Turanei that we intend to go leaving us no choice in this matter anyways.

 

[Radisshu]

Yeah, I fear what the AI might lead to as well. The economic issues,
but also... Sure, say it helps us greatly, and we become the top dog. And then it turns on us, with all the technology it is entirely in control of.

 

[Radisshu]

I suspect them to be treacherous creatures and if we don't comply they will hand "evidence" to the Turanei that we intend to go leaving us no choice in this matter anyways.

On the other hand, if what they ask of us is much too great, could they make us do it?

 

[treave]

It depends on whether Codexia will succumb to their demands. They could threaten us to do it or they would bankrupt us, leading to the collapse of our society.

Judging by the track record of this Council, well...

 

[Radisshu]

It depends on whether Codexia will succumb to their demands. They could threaten us to do it or they would bankrupt us, leading to the collapse of our society.

Judging by the track record of this Council, well...

What I'm saying is that we could, if Codexia shapes up nicely, destroy them. Although I guess that might be a short-handed decision though, I'd only opt for something like that if they ask us to do something potentially suicidal.

 

[lightbane]

Reconsidering my vote, I changed it for the hulk instead of the unobtanium. As long as it is not a tyranid hive it will be ok...

 

[treave]

No guarantees we can do so when our economy, currently, is running on their money.

But as I said, I will need to find out the nature of the loan, and the extent to which loan money is being used to fund our activities. If we just spent a few trillion on propaganda exercises and political kickbacks, and our economy itself is still running fine without jewbugcredit investments, then we're pretty safe.

edit: Hey meth guys we're not going to get our super-mineral at this rate now. Wouldn't it be funny though if it turns out the Amoneth take offense at the synthesis of the mineral for religious reasons or something and begin slaughtering us?

 

[lightbane]

edit: Hey meth guys we're not going to get our super-mineral at this rate now. Wouldn't it be funny though if it turns out the Amoneth take offense at the synthesis of the mineral for religious reasons or something and begin slaughtering us?

sssh!!! Don't give ideas!!

 

[Radisshu]

edit: Hey meth guys we're not going to get our super-mineral at this rate now. Wouldn't it be funny though if it turns out the Amoneth take offense at the synthesis of the mineral for religious reasons or something and begin slaughtering us?

That would be a pretty cruel consequence.

 

[Jack]

That would be quite the irony.
All the council members that played it safe, and then they got an invasion on top of the broken economy.

 

[Angthoron]

By that logic we would already be burning for terraforming and synthetic diamonds.

"High Lord Jewel Rock, we have received reports of a race of Codexians wearing diamonds and synthesizing similar materials!"

"Blasphemy! Summon the fleet! Annihilate the scum. Burn every last of their planets"

 

[treave]

Well, you never know if that brand new material you synthesize is actually the neo-natal form of the Amoneth in crystalline structure.

So we're, like, burning Amoneth babies for fuel to go faster and blowing them up in our missiles.

Hey, that's pretty sweet, now I think about it.

On the off chance this actually does turn out to be the case I'm now tempted to vote for B... but eh, I'll still try to put it off until after the State of the Union update.

 

[laclongquan]

Angelo85, good point. I forgot the ramification of job and AI. This could lead to an economic crisis we may not recover. Also, the homeworld may make mroe use of AI than colonies, which lead to increase tensions. Damn, this shit is dangerous.

Hyper individualistic mean that eachone is for itself and the devil take the hindmost. At best they can think of clan-level benefit. And should war break out between some clans and humans they wont hesitate to sell weapons to both side. That is the definition of Hyper-individualistic at alien level.

Which is why I dont fear much the ramification of one clan reverse-engineer the metal then sell it to others for cheap. What I fear is that the bug probably know this shit but embargo, ban the export of it to human. Though that is very unlikely, see the definition above to understand why (*smuggle*).

 

[Jack]

When it calls for it they do have a strong leader.
The clan father.
That is if I've understood them correctly.

 

[treave]

edit: FLIPFLOP POPAMOLE

 

[Jack]

Sure the space hulk is a wager, but I think it could be more rewarding than all these discoveries together.
But yeah, B is the safest option.

 

[The Barbarian]

The Barbarian humbly apologizes, but the next update is postponed until tomorrow. Conquest is tiring business. We will have one update and the State of the Union entry - with a possible second update early in the morning (GMT+10).

 

[GarfunkeL]

B - the minerals!

 

[laclongquan]

AI are like drugs, they will get you verreeee high, so that when they smash you down, you will fall verrrrreeeee low, and broken verrrreeeee fine.

 

[taplonaplo]

Since people don't have the guts to pick the hulk, i will go with the second best scenario. Let there be skynet, i flip to option A!

 

[taplonaplo]

I hope it is like drugs, then it would ruin the lives of those around us!

 

[treave]

Oh well, I'll flip-flop to A too.

New vote, A. True A.I.

 

[Angthoron]

And destroy the Codexian job market? Do you want to make your own citizens to be outclassed by machines? Blasphemy on the Council floor!

Edit: Although for a while Codexians could drink booze and be depressed and pathetic while our fleet rebuilds itself and fights its own battles before wiping out their puny helpless masters...

Option B at least provides extra jobs.

 

[treave]

Lord Marshal Angthoron, after the debacles of recent years, I am sure you would agree that an AI could run Codexia better than our Council has.

 

[Jack]

And destroy the Codexian job market? Do you want to make your own citizens to be outclassed by machines? Blasphemy on the Council floor!

Edit: Although for a while Codexians could drink booze and be depressed and pathetic while our fleet rebuilds itself and fights its own battles before wiping out their puny helpless masters...

Option B at least provides extra jobs.

It would be a fitting end, don't you think?

Lord Marshal Angthoron, after the debacles of recent years, I am sure you would agree that an AI could run Codexia better than our Council has.

At the very least it would be much quicker in its decisions.