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The Codexian Saga LP

Discussion in 'Choose Your Own Adventure Land' started by The Barbarian, May 8, 2010.

  1. The Barbarian Liturgist

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    The Road Not Taken

    When all was said and done, the massive strategic victory at Modica represented a real turning point in human battlefield fortunes against the Hin'in. The psychic aliens were not omnipotent, after all. They could be beaten. This point was driven home thoroughly by both Marianite and Commonwealth propaganda services, in the aftermath of the battle. And, in all fairness, it did boost public morale. Though the Marianites did not really have morale issues on the homefront, at that point, the Commonwealth certainly did. Victory was a fantastic countermeasure to the deleterious effects of rising discontent. The combined human forces suddenly found themselves revitalized - their faith in an eventual victory restored.

    Yet, in the political backroom, trouble brewed. The Commonwealth elite hated the fact that it was Respublican forces that scattered the Hin'in. They certainly hated the fact that the contemptible zealots of Santi Maria got all the credit for the victory, while Commo men did all the dying. Most of all, however, they feared the shift in the strategic balance engendered by the operations in Modica and Sonata. Which is exactly why they then refused to pledge Commo forces to the Respublican-planned offensive that was supposed to bring the conflict to a decisive conclusion. When the Marianite admiralty and general staff put 'Vae Victis' on the table, the Commo liaison officers scoffed. 'Too ambitious', they said. Too risky. Plausible excuses were bandied about, but all knew that they were simply that: excuses. The Respublicans grew exasperated.

    Reluctantly, they decided to conduct the operation on their own. It took some three weeks to make ready the fleet. The two hundred vessel armada in the active theater of operations was reinforced by an additional detachment of one hundred warships from nearby task-forces. Truly, all would be required, if there was to be any prospective of success. Little intelligence was available as to Hin'in strength at the jump-off point, but conservative estimates put it at near-parity with the Respublicans. This was seen as bad news for the latter - the human track record against the Hin'in with force parity was not good. Considering the overall strategic situation, however, it was still seen as a worthwhile gamble. If the Hin'in springboard could be sufficiently denuded, they were that much less likely to consider a longer, drawn out war to be cost-effective.

    It was all very rationally calculated and reasonably thought out. Vae Victis was seen by most to be a necessity and a strategic imperative. And then something very peculiar took place. A Raumeni vessel entered human-held space under a flag of truce, requesting an audience with Respublican and Commo authorities. Though this took a number of days to organize, when the meeting finally happened the humans found the bugs to be the bearers of some very interesting news... and an intriguing offer. They spoke at length of longstanding Raumeni efforts to achieve independence from the Hin'in who now ruled their former domain, and of clandestine resistance. They also spoke of ranging far and wide in search of those who could help them achieve this goal, noting that they had left the humans out of the endeavour due to both practical concerns (human infighting and instability) and bad blood between the Clans and humanity over the latter's 'betrayal' last century.

    They had apparently found the allies they needed, on the other side of the Hin'in Empire. A race known as the 'Bron'; mighty in their own right and fearsome enemies of the Hin'in. But both the Raumeni and the Bron needed the Hin'in to be distracted elsewhere, if they were to confront them successfully. For some fifty years now, according to the bug envoy, the Raumeni had thus been secretly building up their strength in preparation for a Great Muster to retake their homes - a noble crusade in the mould of the ancient epics. The Clans were more or less united in this. They had warred amongst themselves viciously before, but the Hin'in were an enemy that demanded unity. So the Raumeni had put aside their differences, for the moment, and patiently conspired against their overlords...

    The envoy's proposal to the Codexians was simple:

    'The Clans are ready to fight. The Bron are ready to fight. Will humanity join us in the struggle? At this moment, you are a minor distraction to the Hin'in. They have sent their least Alphas against you, so that you may blood them. We know you plan to strike their foothold in human space - the world you call 'Neu-mann'. Our information is well sourced. But this campaign means very little to our foe, you must understand. If you defeat them, they may even entirely withdraw from human space, for the time being. We hope you see that such a solution would work only in the short-term. We will launch our uprising soon and we want you to help us! If you advance into occupied Raumen space after Neumann, the Hin'in will bring their occupation forces to bear against you. Yet you will not have to face them alone for long, as we will strike as soon as they are out of their strategic positions... We can drive them out completely!'

    Respublican and Commo representative alike scrambled to put the proposal before their respective governments.

    A weighty decision beckons...

    Do you... agree to the proposal? The xeno is correct. This foe is beyond us. We must bring them low by working in unison. A momentary victory and a fleeting white peace cannot substitute decisive triumph! This is an opportunity like no other! Certainly, there is risk. But there is risk at every turn! We may come out of this conflict with new allies, more influence and great spoils of war. One of our greatest enemies would be struck down, perhaps permanently. How can we say no?!

    (Launch Vae Victis; follow up with immediate drive into Raumeni space)

    OR

    Do you... decline the proposal? The heathen bugs insult us with this! Firstly, they may very well be lying to our faces. We do not know. We do not know if their supposed fleets and distant allies even exist! And we are to risk all on the word of this scum?! We fight our war, our way! If they wish to wage their own war against the Hin'in, let them do so without another torrent of human blood spilled across the Raumen expanse. Our people would never forgive us, if we did this...

    (Launch Vae Victis; stop at Neumann)
     
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  2. The Barbarian Liturgist

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    Please note:

    The agree/decline choice applies only to the Venerable Respublica. The Commo will make its own decision, in this regard.
     
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  3. Undead Phoenix Arcane

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    No option to turn on the Commonwealth? Dirty stinking cowards, we could bring the Hin'in empire to its knees only to be stabbed in the back when we are weakest. :decline:

    I vote to agree with the proposal - but only because our goal before our crusade started was to utterly crush the Hin'in. Why should the petty infighting of the xenos make us stop our holiest of missions?
     
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  4. Ulminati Kamelåså! Patron

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    :decline: The xeno can not be trusted
     
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  5. anus_pounder Arcane

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    AGREE.

    I would rather have some false hope than no hope at all.
     
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  6. taplonaplo Scholar

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    :decline:
    Besides that it could as well be a trap, me not liking the idea of playing the bait (that's what the Commos are there for!), and not giving shit about the Raumen, it just doesn't fit with the xeno=scum drive of our religion.
     
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  7. Nickless Educated

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    I see this could go a number of ways if we go with decline...

    The Commonwealth pushed into the Raumen expanse and suffered heavy casualties, yet their effort led to a successful Raumen uprising. As a consequence they began to thrive and prosper due to favourable trade deals with the Raumen, increasing their relative power to us. When we go to strike at the Commonwealth, some of the closer Raumen may or may not intervene, leading to a bloody, fruitless war.

    or...

    It was all a Hin'in trick to get us to over-extend ourselves so they could launch a strategic strike against our core-worlds while the majority of our forces were away and out of reach. The Xeno made a mistake in thinking Codexia had launched with the Commonwealth, and were thus caught off-guard when the majority of the fleet was able to respond to their assault and destroy a significant proportion of their armada.

    Of course if we go with agree, people could start to question whether the government really followed the teachings of Marianism, leading to resentment and rebellious activity amongst the populace, or it could all be a Hin'in trick, leading to a significant military disadvantage in the coming war.

    I'm going to vote decline, merely because it's consistent with previous decisions, and hope for the best.
     
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  8. Azira Arcane Patron

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    This smells very much like a trap to me as well. We have no confirmation that these "Bron" actually exists, yet if we take the Raumen words as truth, this might serve to explain the confusion we saw in the Psychic Hobbits after their defeat at Sonata.

    I say we AGREE with the proposal. It was always our goal to get our revenge on the Hin'in. Heck, it was also our goal to occupy Raumeni space..
     
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  9. Luan Educated

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    DECLINE! Our great respublica was founded with a strong foundation of hate against anything not pure, not human! We must stay true to ourselves. If not, we are nothing but a farce. Our strength comes from the unity within!
     
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  10. Brotherman Bill Arcane

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    Is there any way for us to know whether he lies or not? There must some way we can try to confirm or falsify at least some of his statements.

    Personally I'd guess he's not lying though, if only because Conan recognizes that we have fucked up codexia so hard that we need a reset button.

    If he is not lying, I'd go with Agree. We would trade a big, strong neighboring bully with expansionist tendencies with the fractured and fairly passive jewbugs. Not only that but the Bron, which will probably become the next strong player in the universe, is on the other side og hin'in space, which is a much more comfortable distance.
     
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  11. wjw Augur

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    This so called "plan" has TRAP written all over it.

    Besides, we would win very little. Our Holy nation distrusts xeno's and with good reason, as yet again they try to trick us. So we will not gain additional trade, nor allies.

    Decline.
     
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  12. Ulminati Kamelåså! Patron

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    I urge you all to :decline: this madness. Even if it's not a trap, the Raumen are basically asking us to sacrifice the brave sons of the Respublica to buy their freedom. Let's not forget it was the Raumens civil war that led to the first Hi'in-Codexian wars.

    Our glorious Respublica is founded on the sound principles of Love, Piety and Unrelenting Hatred of the Unclean. Do not betray the publics trust in us by throwing in with the Alien Menace!

    [​IMG]
     
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  13. Undead Phoenix Arcane

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    I too hate agreeing with the xenos, but the Barbarian hasn't offered us the chance to decline to their proposal while still assaulting the Hin'in occupying Raumen space.

    Do you merely want to push them from our borders, or do you want to expand those very same borders?
     
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  14. Ulminati Kamelåså! Patron

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    All in good time, brother. IF the Raumen turn out to be sincere, and an uprising DOES occur, nothing's stopping us from dispensing a little Codexian Justice™ of our own while they're distracted. But we definately don't want to be the instigators that bear the brunt of their wrath.

    Remember we are the protectors of the Marianite way of life. Consider how hard it was for the Faithful to bear cooperation with the Commie filth. Now ask yourself: Will they not rightfully feel betrayed if we ask them to die for the xeno?

    :decline: is what our Goddess would want.
     
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  15. praetor Arcane

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    i vote AGREE
     
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  16. The Brazilian Slaughter Arcane

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    I vote DISAGREE. They can do the fighting themselves. We will finish the Hin'in offense against humanity first. If said Muster of Clans is true, then we will bring them justice. This smells of TRAP TRAP TRAP.
     
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  17. taplonaplo Scholar

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    The more casualties on xeno side the merrier for us. Why the hell would want to minimize their losses, let them bleed each other first, and strike when we have the upper hand!
    We simply cannot lose anything with declining their offer. And the payoff of agreeing seems unpromising considering our whole anti xeno agenda among our people.
     
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  18. Conkrete Knight Educated

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    So there are plans to take down the Hin'in?
    And we are invited as meatshields?
    Should we agree this is going to be hard to sell to the populace.
    That, and the fact that we are going to lose ships, ships we could use to get the commos back in the fold as soon as this skirmish is over with.

    Seriously, what could we win?
    The Bugs and the Bros would probably look kinder on us, which is pretty irrelevant as we hate them.
    The Hin'in would be seriously weakened, but if we do not act the plans to weaken them would not disappear.
    We could always join in later.

    On the other hand, my guts screams for blood.
    And should we succeed our neighbours would once again be Raumenei, certainly a softer target than the Hin'in.

    On a completly different note: THE BUGS KNOW OUR MILITARY SECRETS?
    :x

    Inquisition please?

    In conclusion: Would we have a different governement, I would agree. As things are know, us being Xenophobic cholerics: Na, I don't think so.

    Decline

    Ps: Funny thing being I would have been all out offensive had the bugs kept their trap shut, oh well :roll:
     
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  19. Ulminati Kamelåså! Patron

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    :thumbsup:

    I'll donate some inquisitors to the Respublica from my personal retinue

    [​IMG]


    [​IMG] Fear not, brave sons of the Respublica! We will root out the racial traitors who seek to betray us to the xeno scum!

    :salute:
     
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  20. laclongquan Arcane

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    No question, it's a nobrainer decision.

    If the Raumen lie (ie a Hiin strategy to get us overextend) we are going to bleed on those buggy systems and might well be destroyed strategically by a Homeworld raiding.

    If the Raumen say the truth we are still going to bleed on those buggy system just to restore those bugs to independence. And then what? I resolve that the Raumen has outlived my patience. I havent forgotten that resolve.

    All in all I recommend we push them back out of human borders. This is still not the time for invaded Raumeni space.
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  21. The Barbarian Liturgist

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    The problem lies in that it would take weeks, if not months, to 'verify' the information. And that cannot possibly rule out manipulation thereof. Vae Victis, on the other hand, is due to set off within days. You have timed it in a way that a significant portion of Hin'in strength in the sector should be AWOL. Wait much longer, and they will re-organize their forces.

    The 'stop at Neumann' option does not rule out a subsequent invasion of occupied Raumen space on your own terms.
     
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  22. The Barbarian Liturgist

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    The next update will be Codexia's fiftieth.

    The Barbarian will strive to make it worthy of the occasion.

    Also, the first page index is now up to date.
     
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  23. treave Arcane Patron

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    Can we send the head of the emissary back, and just the head?
     
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  24. Luan Educated

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    We <3 Barbarian
     
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  25. meeneque Liturgist

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    Let's be consistent. We must not help infidels!!!
    Even if we wanted to, there are no substantial evidence to support existence of those 'Bron' (and if there was they should've shown it to us in first place).
    Let them burn and bleed
     
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