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Two interesting things:
- if you are Hollow, each time you die your max HP decreases. You have to go back to living form to reset your HP limit. After 6-7 death, I was already at half HP.
- you can teleport between bonfires now (was this in DS1?).

I can assure you, the difficulty is not lowered compared to the previous game, it is on par with it. I don't know why did the devs talk about that a few months ago.

thank you for confirming stuff that was known for months...

Kanedias
from what i've seen, i have to agree... it's all over the place in every department. from music to mechanics to art direction. some really great stuff and then some really shitty stuff. i have a feeling this will ultimately be one of those "couldn't live up to the predecessors' quality" thing. it seriously lacks someone like Miyazaki leading the team
 
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from what i've seen, i have to agree... it's all over the place in every department. from music to mechanics to art direction. some really great stuff and then some really shitty stuff. i have a feeling this will ultimately be one of those "couldn't live up to the predecessors' quality" thing. it seriously lacks someone like Miyazaki leading the team
i might be overoptimistic but you dude...
could you point out me those shitty music tracks? mechanics?art direction? majula theme is fucking great and there was maybe one "shitty" area. weapons/spells/armors/weapons move sets looks exceptional. and none of us have played online this game with hundreds of other player invading/cooping. i have also a feeling from what was seen on that stream that this game is more kings field succesor than simply dark souls 1 copy on steroids.

apart from you whining about leveling up at the green maiden bonfire what went wrong with games mechanics? streamers reports that for example whips are finally viable as a weapon

it will not live up to it expectations but so did not dark souls 1. was ds1 so much better than demons souls? hardly

fanboy mode off+M
 

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was ds1 so much better than demons souls?

immensely. in every single way

f.e. sentinels theme was a really boring generic symphonic theme, nu-Blighttown is very shitty, level up is retarded, you can buy infinite lifegems at majula, and that jabba boss makes pinwheel look hard

there, at least 1 example of "very shitty" in every category.
 

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I don't think the Sentinel's theme is more generic than other Dark Souls themes, not including Ash Lake, Gwyn's theme and such, of course. As for the infinite lifegems, they're somewhat expensive and don't feel cheesy at all, at least I didn't get that impression from the streams. They seemed much less cheesy than 10/15/20 Dark Souls estus, at least. And which nu-Blighttown? the bland gray mine-like place with the giant riders, or The Gutter/Black Gulch? because The Gutter and the following area seemed quite interesting, though that art design wasn't something I expected. I do agree with you on the other points, though. This zone that has Jabba and his Shreks is retarded, and the area with the giant riders had such a bland lighting and uninteresting design. I'm liking most of what I see, though, which is why right now I'd put it on par with Demon's Souls at least (flawed, but very good). I'm sure my opinion of the game will actually get better once I get to see the ending (which is supposedly excellent) and once I try PvPing (so many varied movesets and previously shitty weapons being made viable, plus the nerf to backstabs)
 

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from what i've seen, i have to agree... it's all over the place in every department. from music to mechanics to art direction. some really great stuff and then some really shitty stuff. i have a feeling this will ultimately be one of those "couldn't live up to the predecessors' quality" thing. it seriously lacks someone like Miyazaki leading the team

*No Spoilers*

So how significant is this? Like a Dark Souls >>>>> Demon's Souls > Dark Souls 2, or more like Dark Souls > Dark Souls 2 >>>>> Demon's Souls?
 

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yeah, the one with the giant cthuluoid riders. dunno man, even the most generic DaS1 themes had some character, but the sentinel one sounded like generic hollywood shit and i was sick of it after the 2nd time. and lot's of enemy designs also look pretty cartoony (shreks, mummies etc). overall, i agree that this will be more like DeS, but i think/hope the PvP scene will be much better because of the overall improved mechanics. fingers crossed. oh, and where's mah Gravelord covenant? :(

*No Spoilers*

So how significant is this? Like a Dark Souls >>>>> Demon's Souls > Dark Souls 2, or more like Dark Souls > Dark Souls 2 >>>>> Demon's Souls?

definitely the 2nd one, with the potential of it being >=

edit: and holy shit the new poison is brutal
 
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was ds1 so much better than demons souls?

immensely. in every single way

f.e. sentinels theme was a really boring generic symphonic theme, nu-Blighttown is very shitty, level up is retarded, you can buy infinite lifegems at majula, and that jabba boss makes pinwheel look hard

there, at least 1 example of "very shitty" in every category.
latria was better than anything they put in dark souls. also brior/ostrava/yurt/mephisto>>>>any faggot you meet in ds. allant>gwyn. and so long. you watching stream now?that locations makes sens fortres looking like a fucking kindergarten
 

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latria was better than anything they put in dark souls.

it was the only thing slightly better than in DaS

also brior/ostrava/yurt/mephisto>>>>any faggot you meet in ds. allant>gwyn. and so long.

hahahahah... you're joking, right? allant was such a pushover (and aesthetically pretty bland). at least gwyn is fun if you don't go parrying him (which most probably didn't do their 1st time through...). ostrava is a joke (he's like a less interesting, way whinier version of onionbro), yurt is a less interesting/developed lautrec etc... typical DeS nostalgiafag "arguments".

you watching stream now?that locations makes sens fortres looking like a fucking kindergarten

yes. it really doesn't. dude is pretty obviously tired and is making a shitton of bad mistakes
 
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meanwhileInPoland said:
latria was better than anything they put in dark souls.
it was the only thing slightly better than in DaS

meanwhileInPoland said:
also brior/ostrava/yurt/mephisto>>>>any faggot you meet in ds. allant>gwyn. and so long.​
hahahahah... you're joking, right? allant was such a pushover (and aesthetically pretty bland). at least gwyn is fun if you don't go parrying him (which most probably didn't do their 1st time through...). ostrava is a joke (he's like a less interesting, way whinier version of onionbro), yurt is a less interesting/developed lautrec etc...

well than we agree to disagree. anyway lautrec developed...yea maybe in Vaatis fanfiction videos:M

yes. it really doesn't. dude is pretty obviously tired and is making a shitton of bad mistakes

we gonna see when you play it:M. it easy to criticize. and game will be easier for you just because you will not be suprised since you have already seen half of it on stream. good job:bro:
 

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well than we agree to disagree. anyway lautrec developed...yea maybe in Vaatis fanfiction videos:M

reading comprehension fail: i never said lautrec was a (well) developed character or anything of the sort

we gonna see when you play it:M. it easy to criticize. and game will be easier for you just because you will not be suprised since you have already seen half of it on stream. good job:bro:

i didn't say it was easy, i said it didn't make Sen's look like a kindergarten and the dude playing is making a shitton of pretty "noobie" mistakes (his concentration is pretty obviously deteriorating). when will you learn to read?

and if what i saw is "half" the game then it's half the size of DeS. goddamn you're the worst kind of fanboy
 

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well than we agree to disagree. anyway lautrec developed...yea maybe in Vaatis fanfiction videos:M

reading comprehension fail: i never said lautrec was a (well) developed character or anything of the sort

we gonna see when you play it:M. it easy to criticize. and game will be easier for you just because you will not be suprised since you have already seen half of it on stream. good job:bro:

i didn't say it was easy, i said it didn't make Sen's look like a kindergarten and the dude playing is making a shitton of pretty "noobie" mistakes (his concentration is pretty obviously deteriorating). when will you learn to read?

and if what i saw is "half" the game then it's half the size of DeS. goddamn you're the worst kind of fanboy

He didn't get any of the
Old Souls
, and he only reached one boss that has one, and he couldn't kill him. I don't think he reached the halfway point yet.

--

Unrelated: he just tried to rush past all enemies to the fog door and he got destroyed. I'm glad they're making it more difficult, I don't like how in Dark Souls you can just sprint to the fog door without any trouble, skipping all the encounters.
 

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He didn't get any of the
Old Souls
, and he only reached one boss that has one, and he couldn't kill him. I don't think he reached the halfway point yet.

as i said earlier, i started watching
at the sentinels fight
so i basically saw something like 3 areas + what was in the beta/trailers/etc. just pointing out the stupidity of the previous poster, not the size of the game ;)
 

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Two interesting things:
- if you are Hollow, each time you die your max HP decreases. You have to go back to living form to reset your HP limit. After 6-7 death, I was already at half HP.
- you can teleport between bonfires now (was this in DS1?).

I can assure you, the difficulty is not lowered compared to the previous game, it is on par with it. I don't know why did the devs talk about that a few months ago.

thank you for confirming stuff that was known for months...

I hope I didn't hurt your feelings by repeating it.
 
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was ds1 so much better than demons souls?

immensely. in every single way

f.e. sentinels theme was a really boring generic symphonic theme, nu-Blighttown is very shitty, level up is retarded, you can buy infinite lifegems at majula, and that jabba boss makes pinwheel look hard

there, at least 1 example of "very shitty" in every category.
latria was better than anything they put in dark souls. also brior/ostrava/yurt/mephisto>>>>any faggot you meet in ds. allant>gwyn. and so long. you watching stream now?that locations makes sens fortres looking like a fucking kindergarten

Demon's Souls also has the better soundtrack imo.
 

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Hidden Weapon
Repair
Cast Light
Chameleon
Unleash Magic
Heal
Med Heal
Great Heal Excerpt
Great Heal
Soothing Sunlight
Replenishment
Resplendent Life
Bountiful Sunlight
Caressing Prayer
Force
Wrath of the Gods
Emit Force
Heavenly Thunder
Lightning Spear
Great Lightning Spear
Sunlight Spear
Soul Appease
Blinding Bolt
Magic Barrier
Great Magic Barrier
Homeward
Guidance
Sacred Oath
Unveil
Perseverance
Sunlight Blade
Fireball
Fire Orb
Great Fireball
Great Chaos Fireball
Firestorm
Fire Tempest
Chaos Storm
Combustion
Great Combustion
Fire Whip
Poison Mist
Toxic Mist
Acid Surge
Lingering Flame
Flame Swathe
Forbidden Sun
Flame Weapon
Flash Sweat
Iron Flesh
Warmth
Immolation
Dark Orb
Dark Hail
Dark Fog
Affinity
Dead Again
Dark Weapon
Whisper of Despair
Repel
Twisted Barricade
Numbness
Scraps of Life
Darkstorm
Resonant Soul
Great Resonant Soul
Climax
Resonant Flesh
Resonant Weapon
Lifedrain Patch
Profound Still
Life Ring
Life Ring+1
Life Ring+2
Chloranthy Ring
Chloranthy Ring+1
Chloranthy Ring+2
Royal Soldier's Ring
Royal Soldier's Ring+1
Royal Soldier's Ring+2
First Dragon Ring
Second Dragon Ring
Third Dragon Ring
Ring of Steel Protection
Ring of Steel Protection+1
Ring of Steel Protection+2
Spell Quartz Ring
Spell Quartz Ring+1
Spell Quartz Ring+2
Flame Quartz Ring
Flame Quartz Ring+1
Flame Quartz Ring+2
Thunder Quartz Ring
Thunder Quartz Ring+1
Thunder Quartz Ring+2
Dark Quartz Ring
Dark Quartz Ring+1
Dark Quartz Ring+2
Poisonbite Ring
Bloodbite Ring
Bracing Knuckle Ring
Bracing Knuckle Ring+1
Bracing Knuckle Ring+2
Cursebite Ring
Ash Knuckle Ring
Dispelling Ring
Ring of Resistance
Ring of Blades
Ring of Blades+1
Ring of Blades+2
Ring of Knowledge
Ring of Prayer
Stone Ring
Red Tearstone Ring
Blue Tearstone Ring
Ring of Giants
Ring of Giants+1
Ring of Giants+2
Old Leo Ring
Ring of Soul Protection
Ring of Life Protection
Lingering Dragoncrest Ring
Lingering Dragoncrest Ring+1
Lingering Dragoncrest Ring+2
Clear Bluestone Ring
Clear Bluestone Ring+1
Clear Bluestone Ring+2
Northern Ritual Band
Northern Ritual Band+1
Northern Ritual Band+2
Southern Ritual Band
Southern Ritual Band+1
Southern Ritual Band+2
Covetous Gold Serpent Ring
Covetous Gold Serpent Ring+1
Covetous Gold Serpent Ring+2
Covetous Silver Serpent Ring
Covetous Silver Serpent Ring+1
Covetous Silver Serpent Ring+2
Ring of the Evil Eye
Ring of the Evil Eye+1
Ring of the Evil Eye+2
Ring of Restoration
Ring of Binding
Silvercat Ring
Redeye Ring
Gower's Ring of Protection
Name-engraved Ring
Slumbering Dragoncrest Ring
Hawk Ring
Old Sun Ring
Illusory Ring of a Conqueror
King's Ring
Ring of the Dead
Ring of Thorns
Ring of Thorns+1
Ring of Thorns+2
Delicate String
White Ring
Illusory Ring of the Vengeful
Illusory Ring of the Guilty
Ring of Whispers
Illusory Ring of the Exalted
Crest of the Rat
Bell Keeper's Seal
Guardian's Seal
Crest of Blood
Blue Seal
Abyss Seal
Vanquisher's Seal
Sun Seal
Ancient Dragon Seal
Soldier Key
Key to King's Passage
Weapon Smithbox
Armor Smithbox
Bastille Key
Iron Key
Forgotten Key
Brightstone Key
Antiquated Key
Fang Key
House Key
Lenigrast's Key
Smooth & Silky Stone
Small Smooth & Silky Stone
Rotunda Lockstone
Giant's Kinship
Ashen Mist Heart
Soul of a Giant
Tseldora Den Key
Champion's Tablet
Ladder Miniature
Soul Vessel
Undead Lockaway Key
Dull Ember
Crushed Eye Orb
Simpleton's Spice
Skeptic's Spice
Aldia Key
Lifegem
Radiant Lifegem
Old Radiant Lifegem
Elizabeth Mushroom
Amber Herb
Twilight Herb
Wilted Dusk Herb
Poison Moss
Monastery Charm
Dragon Charm
Divine Blessing
Rouge Water
Crimson Water
Human Effigy
Estus Flask
Estus Flask
Small Blue Burr
Small Yellow Burr
Small Orange Burr
Dark Troches
Common Fruit
Red Leech Troches
Yellow Sea Troches
Triclops Snake Troches
Aromatic Ooze
Pungent Ooze
Gold Pine Resin
Charcoal Pine Resin
Dark Pine Resin
Rotten Pine Resin
Bleeding Serum
Green Blossom
Rusted Coin
Rhoy's Stone
Rhoy's Stone of Knowledge
Homeward Bone
Aged Feather
Darksign
Silver Talisman
Gold Talisman
Fake Dead Talisman
Illusory Talisman
Dragon Head Stone
Dragon Head Stone
Dragon Torso Stone
Dragon Torso Stone
Repair Powder
Torch
Flame Butterfly
Prism Stone
Hello Carving
Thank You Carving
I'm Sorry Carving
Very Good! Carving
Rubbish
Petrified Something
Estus Flask Shard
Sublime Bone Dust
Bonfire Ascetic
Alluring Skull
Lloyd's Talisman
Pharros' Lockstone
Fragrant Branch of Yore
Fire Seed
Throwing Knife
Witching Urn
Lightning Urn
Firebomb
Black Firebomb
Hexing Urn
Poison Throwing Knife
Dung Pie
Lacerating Knife
Corrosive Urn
Holy Water Urn
Fading Soul
Soul of a Lost Undead
Large Soul of a Lost Undead
Soul of a Nameless Soldier
Large Soul of a Nameless Soldier
Soul of a Proud Knight
Large Soul of a Proud Knight
Soul of a Brave Warrior
Large Soul of a Brave Warrior
Soul of a Hero
Soul of a Great Hero
Wood Arrow
Iron Arrow
Magic Arrow
Lightning Arrow
Fire Arrow
Dark Arrow
Poison Arrow
Lacerating Arrow
Wooden Greatarrow
Iron Greatarrow
Magic Greatarrow
Lightning Greatarrow
Fire Greatarrow
Dark Greatarrow
Destructive Greatarrow
Wood Bolt
Heavy Bolt
Magic Bolt
Lightning Bolt
Fire Bolt
Dark Bolt
Titanite Shard
Large Titanite Shard
Titanite Chunk
Titanite Slab
Twinkling Titanite
Petrified Dragon Bone
Faintstone
Boltstone
Firedrake Stone
Darknight Stone
Poison Stone
Bleed Stone
Raw Stone
Magic Stone
Old Mundane Stone
Palestone
Dried Fingers
Bone of Order
White Sign Soapstone
Small White Sign Soapstone
Red Sign Soapstone
Cracked Blue Eye Orb
Cracked Red Eye Orb
Dragon Eye
Token of Fidelity
Token of Spite
Sunlight Medal
Dragon Scale
Rat Tail
Awestone
Black Separation Crystal
Seed of a Tree of Giants
Petrified Egg
"Point" Gesture
"I won't bite" Gesture
"Proper bow" Gesture
"Bow" Gesture
"Welcome" Gesture
"Duel bow" Gesture
"Wave" Gesture
"Pumped up" Gesture
"Joy" Gesture
"Warcry" Gesture
"Warmup" Gesture
"Hurrah!" Gesture
"Righty-ho!" Gesture
"No way" Gesture
"This one's me" Gesture
"Have mercy!" Gesture
"Prostration" Gesture
"Decapitate" Gesture
"Fist pump" Gesture
"Mock" Gesture
"Praise the Sun" Gesture
Soul of the Pursuer
Soul of the Last Giant
Dragonrider Soul
Old Dragonslayer Soul
Flexile Sentry Soul
Ruin Sentinel Soul
Soul of the Lost Sinner
Executioner's Chariot Soul
Skeleton Lord's Soul
Covetous Demon Soul
Mytha, the Baneful Queen Soul
Smelter Demon Soul
Old Iron King Soul
Royal Rat Vanguard Soul
Soul of the Rotten
Scorpioness Najka Soul
Royal Rat Authority Soul
Soul of the Duke's Dear Freja
Looking Glass Knight Soul
Demon of Song Soul
Soul of Velstadt
Soul of the King
Guardian Dragon Soul
Ancient Dragon Soul
Giant Lord Soul
Soul of Nashandra
Throne Defender Soul
Throne Watcher Soul
Darklurker Soul
Belfry Gargoyle Soul
Old Witch Soul
Old King Soul
Old Dead One Soul
Old Paledrake Soul
Faraam Helm
Faraam Armor
Faraam Gauntlets
Faraam Boots
Chaos Hood
Chaos Robes
Chaos Gloves
Chaos Boots
Dragonknight Helm
Dragonknight Robes
Dragonknight Gloves
Dragonknight Boots
Black Hood
Black Robes
Black Gloves
Black Boots
Hunter's Hat
Leather Armor
Leather Gloves
Leather Boots
Knight Helm
Knight Armor
Knight Gauntlets
Knight Leggings
Rogue Hood
Rogue Armor
Rogue Gauntlets
Rogue Leggings
Prisoner's Hood
Prisoner's Tatters
Prisoner's Gloves
Prisoner's Waistcloth
Prisoner's Hood
Prisoner's Tatters
Prisoner's Gloves
Prisoner's Waistcloth
Hollow Mage Hood
Hollow Mage Robes
Defender Helm
Defender Mail
Defender's Gauntlet
Defender's Leggings
Llewellyn Armor
Llewellyn Gloves
Llewellyn Shoes
Despatcher's Hood
Despatcher's Robes
Dagger
Royal Dirk
Longsword
Shortsword
Dragonslayer's Crescent Axe
Greataxe
Dragonrider's Halberd
Witchtree Branch
Lizard Staff
Dragonknight's Bell
Bell of the Idol
Short Bow
Light Crossbow
Target Shield
Small Leather Shield
Golden Wing Shield
Dragonknight's Shield
Silver Eagle Kite Shield
Imperial Shield
Disc Bell
Pursuer's Greatsword
Zweihander
Winged Spear
Estoc
Bastard Sword
Knight's Greatsword
Inquisitor's Blade
 
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AngryEddy

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Gotta love the chariot horses spamming long range attacks in CQB. DaS2 is easy shit. I appreciate being able to judge the quality of this game before the invasions/coop make up for the shortcomings of FROM.
 
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praetor

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should've been CE cover:
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