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On the player side maybe. Tech helps a lot in creating better animations.
Key word being "helps".

As far as body anims go they haven't chaged since 1998 - you're effectively animating a stick figure with only so many bones and vertices to work with.

Yes, if you have mocap, you can capture animations off a living person instead of having to make them comletely by hand, but it's neither necessary, nor sufficient for having impressive anims.

Facial anims are a bit of a different story, but since around HL2 they are also about talent rather than tech base.

And, funny thing, one of the most impressively animated games I have seen was Another World.
Yes, from 1993.
 

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On the player side maybe. Tech helps a lot in creating better animations.
Key word being "helps".

As far as body anims go they haven't chaged since 1998 - you're effectively animating a stick figure with only so many bones and vertices to work with.

Yes, if you have mocap, you can capture animations off a living person instead of having to make them comletely by hand, but it's neither necessary, nor sufficient for having impressive anims.

Facial anims are a bit of a different story, but since around HL2 they are also about talent rather than tech base.

And, funny thing, one of the most impressively animated games I have seen was Another World.
Yes, from 1993.

Flashback was even earlier and looked good too, as did Fade to Black in full 3D back in 1995. Interestingly, the man who could do no wrong; Brian Fargo; was at the head of Interplay when they made the shitty sequel to Another World, Heart of the Alien for the Sega CD CONSOLE. You can take the Codex hero away from the decline but you can't take the decline away from the Codex hero....
 

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On the player side maybe. Tech helps a lot in creating better animations.
Key word being "helps".

As far as body anims go they haven't chaged since 1998 - you're effectively animating a stick figure with only so many bones and vertices to work with.

Yes, if you have mocap, you can capture animations off a living person instead of having to make them comletely by hand, but it's neither necessary, nor sufficient for having impressive anims.

Facial anims are a bit of a different story, but since around HL2 they are also about talent rather than tech base.

And, funny thing, one of the most impressively animated games I have seen was Another World.
Yes, from 1993.

Flashback was even earlier and looked good too, as did Fade to Black in full 3D back in 1995. Interestingly, the man who could do no wrong; Brian Fargo; was at the head of Interplay when they made the shitty sequel to Another World, Heart of the Alien for the Sega CD CONSOLE. You can take the Codex hero away from the decline but you can't take the decline away from the Codex hero....

Flashback was from 92, but another world released in 91 even.
 

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Yes Flashback is from 92, Another world from 1991. I had originally just looked at DraQ's times and knowing that he rarely gets anything wrong I didn't bother to check when Another World was actually released before saying that Flashback was from an earlier time. Still you're not totally correct as the iPad version of Another World was only released in 2011...:troll:
 

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I was worried that bethesda will skip tamriel in TES VI because this mmo will feature all of it, but after watching this video i'm not worried anymore. :lol:
It's so boring, bland, wow-ish.
 

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Graphics far below average and generic gameplay. In other words, shovelware MMO like every others, except of the TES sticker. Not as if it's any surprise.

At least entering to the buildings doesn't require loading another map. What a progress!
 

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Graphics far below average and generic gameplay. In other words, shovelware MMO like every others, except of the TES sticker. Not as if it's any surprise.

At least entering to the buildings doesn't require loading another map. What a progress!
What pisses me off the most is that this was THE opportunity to make a big budget sandbox MMORPG with a recognizable name to back it up. Considering the nature of TES games it would've been a great fit. But nope, let's just make another safe, themepark dime a dozen game that will go F2P within a year. Goddammit.
 

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At least the UI doesn't suffer for a console's sake.

Really?They thought is good idea to reposition the players view when he open the inventory going in to ugly overview?And everything is in rows.All game must look more like this:
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Graphics far below average and generic gameplay. In other words, shovelware MMO like every others, except of the TES sticker. Not as if it's any surprise.

At least entering to the buildings doesn't require loading another map. What a progress!
What pisses me off the most is that this was THE opportunity to make a big budget sandbox MMORPG with a recognizable name to back it up. Considering the nature of TES games it would've been a great fit. But nope, let's just make another safe, themepark dime a dozen game that will go F2P within a year. Goddammit.
Haha. You hope for too much. AAA MMOs can't take risks.
 

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AAA MMOs can't take risks.
We live in a world where playing it safe is almost guaranteed to result in complete failure, yet taking risks is unthinkable despite having decent chance of success.

Mad world.

"we can't take any risks, that's why your task will be to roll this barrell of nytroglicerin down the stairs copy and challenge WoW, which carries around 100% risk of horrible explosion flopping badly".

And people complain Bethesda's storylines make no sense.
:roll:
 

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Wow, that engine looks really, really bad.
 

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