The Guild Wars 2 Thread

[Zed]

How is the setting "dumbed down"? It's just fantasy trope. Absolutely not worse than wow or wh.

Storyline dumbed down? What? Each character has a unique tree of choices that affects the story. The storyline is more fleshed out with choices than any other MMORPG.

"Text dialogs" and NPC interaction - maybe not something one looks for in a MMORPG, being that the point is to interact with other players?

Not all quests are Heart quests. Certain events are spontaneous and some progress as a story (which you can join at any point). Yes, this is very much like Warhammer, but it's not all there is to the PvE world experience. You get more XP from gathering than killing an enemy. Exploring areas can give you almost as much XP as some quests.

I've only played 2 dungeons so far, I can't really compare "complexity" with other games. Neither can you (but you will, because you are stupid). What I can say is that the dungeons I played were challenging and fun.

 

[SuicideBunny]

wow, that's way beyond trying too hard.

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

I can't believe I'm reading someone seriously defending WAR. It was utter shit, no good sides to it at all.

 

[Angthoron]

Okay so I've been reading this for a while bros. You know what? There's not enough fucking edge here, and I'll fuckin' deliver it, hell yeah.

So today my store sends me a text message as I'm having coffee with my lady, they're like yo bro, we got your package right here so I'm like cool yeah right? Finally I get this baby CE box oh yeah. In the afternoon, I go pick it up, like a boss. It's a fucking huge box too, I mean fuck, maybe americans with their cars and those fattiemobiles they have for WalMart customers can drag this bitch home with no problem but not me, I'm a fucking euro and so of course I had to hook it to my bicycle somehow except it was too huge so I had to half-carry it anyway. FUCK.

Then I come home and read this thread bros, and what do you know, I see Whisper's opinion that I guess must be based on him playing all those MMOs he mentioned and GW2 that he's already piss-tired with and am like FUCK WHY DID I BUY THIS PIECE OF SHIT BLACK AND WHISPER WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG FUCK and then I go to acc management to register my CE and FUCK ME it gives me a new arbitrarily assigned number at the end I bet that'll fuck me over some day. So, FUCK you guys for veiling my eyes with nostalgia goggles and THANK YOU Black and Whisper for being so informed and negative and opening my eyes to the idiot that I was when I spent money on a game I can afford to buy. Never fucking again, I'll always pirate and if I can't pirate I'll just bitch about it together with you guys.

Oh yeah and now this shit had another quick patch and I can't log in into the shitty repetitive unimaginative piece of shit you guys warned me about all along because millions of other morons are flocking to the flavour of the month.

COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCKSLAPS.

Yeah I'm edgy suck it down suckers.

 

[Black]

Told ya, bra.

 

[Angthoron]

That was fucking sarcasm, for fuck's sake. Dudes here are like "Derr derr we like game game is good because stuffies" meanwhile I bring definitive edge to the table.

Emotional engagement of a dispassionate man if you will.

 

[Angthoron]

Also I fucking hate pointing out that I'm being fucking sarcastic. When you find yourself on a Rape St. with Rape Oil dripping out of your city bus' intestines, you will know my vengeance.

Oh yeah nothing personal bros this is just my way of negotiating better road budgets.

 

[Zed]

I can't log in. FFS. What am I supposed to do? Eat or something? FFS.

 

[Angthoron]

I can't log in. FFS. What am I supposed to do? Eat or something? FFS.

I logged in after using my Rape Bus persuasion approach.

 

[Black]

I can't log in. FFS. What am I supposed to do? Eat or something? FFS.

It's better to not be able to log in than the opposite.

 

[Whisper]

I've only played 2 dungeons so far, I can't really compare "complexity" with other games. Neither can you (but you will, because you are stupid). What I can say is that the dungeons I played were challenging and fun.

PvE dungeons are more challenging. <- More challenging than what?

Maybe challenging for you, but compared to games i've played, they are easy and "streamlined" that you can finish them while half-afk.

 

[Whisper]

I can't believe I'm reading someone seriously defending WAR. It was utter shit, no good sides to it at all.

It was shit but GW2 stole ideas from it? Main being Public quests. Which was one of main feature for WAR.

 

[Zed]

Whisper

they are easy and "streamlined" that you can finish them while half-afk.

So you have played them? In exploration mode as well?

PvE dungeons are more challenging. <- More challenging than what?

more challenging than the initial dungeons of every other MMORPG I've played (at least the 30 one). Like I said, I can't fully compare game to game without playing all of it.

 

[SuicideBunny]

Main being Public quests. Which was one of main feature for WAR.

and war came up with those entirely on its own. it's not like they are just and automation of the old recurring gm led events from daoc which in turn was a continuation of other games including muds before that. god forbit games actually evolve and build upon the ideas that are good.
i mean, you could just as well say that secret world stole the setting from unknown armies, mixed it with a bit of lovecraft and its deck building is based on guild wars 1/chronicles of spellborn.

are you aiming for king of the ignore list, whisper? 'cos if you are, a more populated forum would be better for that.

 

[Ulminati]

Main being Public quests. Which was one of main feature for WAR.

and war came up with those entirely on its own. it's not like they are just and automation of the old recurring gm led events from daoc which in turn was a continuation of other games including muds before that. god forbit games actually evolve and build upon the ideas that are good.
i mean, you could just as well say that secret world stole the setting from unknown armies, mixed it with a bit of lovecraft and its deck building is based on guild wars 1/chronicles of spellborn.

It's pretty neat how the success/failure (well, mostly success since the zones are flooded with ppl atm) of the events determine which ones get active next. I'm missing one skill challenge to clear the Meatoberfest. But th eonly way I can get to the area it's in is if the flame legion stronghold attack is successful. And the only way the flame legion stronghold attack triggers is if the NPC who launches it has his entire crew with him. Which in turn means they need to have whatever events are associated with them succeed.

are you aiming for king of the ignore list, whisper? 'cos if you are, a more populated forum would be better for that.

Eh, I just skip posts with his name in them. It's not like he's actually trying to critizise the game. Just trolling for the sake of hating on something new. Same with menchenstein flipping all out over lion chest keys without even bothering to find out there's a ton of non-paying way to get the keys and the contents of the chests are largely irrelevant. I've opened 10 chests so far with keys I've gotten from in-game events, achievements quests and the like. And so far the only thing I've gotten were some 5-10% temporary stat/xp boosts, a shitton of turn-you-into-an-animal tonics that I destroyed because they were taking up bank space, a few common dyes and some transmutation stones which I guess are pretty neat. Used them to make my crafted lv25 shoulders look like the custom shoulders my guardian started with.

 

[DakaSha]

Has it been mentioned that you can buy "gems" with in game gold? I'm not sure what the conversion rate is but basically you shouldnt have to pay for anything n the cash shop with real world potatoe.

This isnt to say that cash shops are the devil either way but as far as i can tell its pretty lenient

 

[Ulminati]

Has it been mentioned that you can buy "gems" with in game gold? I'm not sure what the conversion rate is but basically you shouldnt have to pay for anything n the cash shop with real world potatoe.

This isnt to say that cash shops are the devil either way but as far as i can tell its pretty lenient

The conversion rate is whatever the market will bear. Once they get the trading post working properly. Basically, you buy gems with gold, the gold price goes up. You sell gems for gold, the gold price goes down. A bit like how Eve Online handles PLEXes.

The only things in the store that it actually makes sense to buy are:
1) More character slots. 5 is a little low, but still more than GW1 gave you. If you don't have chronic altitis like me, you can probably make do with a main and 4 alts.
2) Bank space. Since it's shared between all your alts it runs out pretty quickly. Especially if you - like me - end up making partially finished tradeskill items (jute linings) because you forget to check you have all ingredients. Raw materials for tradeskills go in your infinite collection inventory. Crafted components don't. You can circumvent this as well by grinding. Make yourself a pseudoguild, once you get enough influence, build a guild vault for yourself. That's an additional stack of bank slots right there.

 

[thesoup]

So D3 RMAH is bad, but buying keys for chests in gw2 is good?
Fanboys. Fanboys never change.

 

[Ulminati]

thesoup did you miss out on the last 4-5 times where it was pointed out that the keys are easily obtainable without buying and the contents of the chests irrelevant?
D3 was built around making buying shit on the RMAH essential so Blizzard could take a cut. At release at least, there's nothing in the guild wars store that'll give you an edge in progressing through the game. Unlike the stories we heard about people trying to progress through inferno in Diablo without buing shit from other people on the RMAH.

I'm going to spell this out for you since apparently you people are very, very dense:
The major beef with D3 is that the RMAH is central to the gameplay. There are plenty of posts in the D3 threads about people who enjoyed it such as MHC debating whether to equip gear they found or sell it on the RMAH instead. And how most of the stuff they used to get through inferno was stuff that was obtained from the RMAH.

The lion chests that you guys are so up in arms over are completely ignorable and provide you with nothing that impacts the game in any meaningful way. And are easily opened without paying a single cent. You're all up in arms over the least signifigant part of the game that noone who's played it even bothers thinking about.

Seriously people. If you're whining about something that's already been debunked less than 2 pages ago, you just make it apparent to the world how retarded you are.

 

[Angthoron]

Yeah, you people should whine about something that's an actual problem.

Oh that's right, you don't know.

 

[Hoaxmetal]

Bunch of corporate cock sucking consumerist faggots in here. Feel free to pay for your chests and hats, I bet when they introduce superior gear in item shop you'll slurp it all like good fanboys you are.

 

[Ulminati]

Dude, the only hat in the store atm is the game launch hat and that's free

 

[SuicideBunny]

by then, the evil communist nazis will have enslaved all of europe and most of us will have bigger problems.

 

[Angthoron]

By then, the Mothra will have evolved anyway.

 

[thesoup]

How is RMAH central? You don't need it. You can just grind forever instead. Completely obtainable without paying moneyz. Just like the keys. Some people might want to get those keys without doing quests and lucky for them - gw2 has a convenient store for them in place.
Both things are Jewish Korean money grabs, the only difference being that you're a fanboy of one of these games and no ad hominems and strawmem will change that.