Bahamut
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The Mass Effect 3/BioWare Thread
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I AM A BIO DRONE!
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I want to be a REAPER
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The Solution
God damn do I hate it when the 'humans are special' thing is used to explain implausible leaps in technology or logic. Normally in fantasy stories this is explained by humans being shorter lived than other races, bringing about a desire for quick advancement, but in Mass Effect, humans aren't really that short-lived and compared to the Salarians who live about thirty years, humans might as well be elves.
Oesophagus
Arcane
It's because humans believe in the power of Jesus, silly!
Oriebam
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and the rest of the races usually live longer and have superpowersIt's all because humans are special, man!
All the other races are just stagnant, which makes total sense even when one of them seems to be made up mainly of genius scientists who are in such a rush they even talk at high speed.
Actually the whole Biotic thing is the biggest derp in Mass Effect: magical powers from the mysterious Element X(Eezo or whatever the fuck it's called)? What a joke. Isn't that how many of the superheroes in the Marvel Universe got their powers?
hoopy
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It's because humans have information vegetable, animal and mineral.
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this thread had marginally less plot analysis than I expected
well done and keep it up
hold the line
well done and keep it up
hold the line
Oesophagus
Arcane
From what I gather that eezo thing is the magic substance that's used when the writers don't know wtf they're talking about. This is hard sci-fi, after all
AFTER first contact. What happened in the 1850-60's? White Devil made Yellow Dog his bitch. This is how the First Contact War with the Turians(the best military force in the galaxy, as widely reinforced in the game) would have gone. Humans would have been fucking scattered to the far ends of the universe, not somehow kicking ass and taking names against an established galactic power with a few thousand years' head start in interstellar warfare.
Afterwards, given computing power and reverse engineering, the humans would have; like the Nips in your example; narrowed the basic technological gap quite quickly. What they wouldn't have made up so quickly would be the tradition of space combat much in the way the French, despite matching the British in technology, could never quite match them in seafaring ability: they were a continental, not a maritime power.
Cowboy Moment
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The car's on fire
and there's no driver at the wheel
And the sewers are all muddied with a thousand lonely suicides
And a dark wind blows
The government is corrupt
And we're on so many drugs
With the radio on and the curtains drawn
We're trapped in the belly of this horrible machine
And the machine is bleeding to death
The sun has fallen down
And the billboards are all leering
And the flags are all dead
at the top of their poles
It went like this:
The buildings tumbled in on themselves
Mothers clutching babies picked through the rubble and pulled out their hair
The skyline was beautiful on fire
All twisted metal stretching upwards
Everything washed in a thin orange haze
I said, "Kiss me, you're beautiful..
These are truly the last days"
You grabbed my hand and we fell into it
Like a daydream or a fever
and there's no driver at the wheel
And the sewers are all muddied with a thousand lonely suicides
And a dark wind blows
The government is corrupt
And we're on so many drugs
With the radio on and the curtains drawn
We're trapped in the belly of this horrible machine
And the machine is bleeding to death
The sun has fallen down
And the billboards are all leering
And the flags are all dead
at the top of their poles
It went like this:
The buildings tumbled in on themselves
Mothers clutching babies picked through the rubble and pulled out their hair
The skyline was beautiful on fire
All twisted metal stretching upwards
Everything washed in a thin orange haze
I said, "Kiss me, you're beautiful..
These are truly the last days"
You grabbed my hand and we fell into it
Like a daydream or a fever
Vaarna_Aarne
Notorious Internet Vandal
pls halp me
Oesophagus
Arcane
Vaarna_Aarne
Notorious Internet Vandal
It must be pointed out that before coming back with an even bigger force the British lost to the Zulu. And it's not the only time when they've been tanned by angry primitive natives due to being careless. They did need to come back with a larger force in the Mahdist Revolt as well.
Still, the thing with the First Contact War is that it's just lazily written and not logically explained at any point. Absolutely no reason beyond "humans are special" has been given for Turians losing. Now, going with Japan here's a good example of how it could have been done properly: Turians pretty much just metaphorically flex their muscles and that's enough for, with the First Contact War ending in less than 10 days in unconditional surrender after shock and awe... However, the actual main event would be a follow up war following the Russo-Japanese War where the arrogant Turians get caught completely with their pants down some 30 years later when humans have spent the entire time secretly adapting and developing methods and ships (most importantly by engaging in extensive diplomatic and economic contact with everyone they think looks powerful and advanced and having humans educated and living off-world to absorb ideas and knowledge and then bring them back to motha Earth) for fighting the Turians, who haven't felt any need to upgrade their fleet due to how easy the last time was. It is that fucking easy to make the whole First Contact War make fucking fucking sense.
But actually in the 90's there was a comic universe where there was a standardized substance of superpowers, called Gen-Factor Gas. Then again, WildStorm universe also had various other methods that could be used to create superhumans, but it was also a SMART setting so naturally international law eventually forbid all experiments into superhuman creation, which was then enforced with extreme prejudice by the setting's Lex Luthor type (who also happened to have unparalled expertise in the field) on mandate of the UN "special security council."
Still, the thing with the First Contact War is that it's just lazily written and not logically explained at any point. Absolutely no reason beyond "humans are special" has been given for Turians losing. Now, going with Japan here's a good example of how it could have been done properly: Turians pretty much just metaphorically flex their muscles and that's enough for, with the First Contact War ending in less than 10 days in unconditional surrender after shock and awe... However, the actual main event would be a follow up war following the Russo-Japanese War where the arrogant Turians get caught completely with their pants down some 30 years later when humans have spent the entire time secretly adapting and developing methods and ships (most importantly by engaging in extensive diplomatic and economic contact with everyone they think looks powerful and advanced and having humans educated and living off-world to absorb ideas and knowledge and then bring them back to motha Earth) for fighting the Turians, who haven't felt any need to upgrade their fleet due to how easy the last time was. It is that fucking easy to make the whole First Contact War make fucking fucking sense.
I guess you're thinking of the Weapon X project...
But actually in the 90's there was a comic universe where there was a standardized substance of superpowers, called Gen-Factor Gas. Then again, WildStorm universe also had various other methods that could be used to create superhumans, but it was also a SMART setting so naturally international law eventually forbid all experiments into superhuman creation, which was then enforced with extreme prejudice by the setting's Lex Luthor type (who also happened to have unparalled expertise in the field) on mandate of the UN "special security council."
Vaarna_Aarne
Notorious Internet Vandal
Oesophagus
Arcane
[perception] so you're saying no
Vaarna_Aarne
Notorious Internet Vandal
[intelligence] no
Oesophagus
Arcane
The Mass Effect 3 Ending (Warning: Spoilers)
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Bahamut
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INT CHECK FAILED
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At the end Jesus dies for our sins
Brayko
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