Might and Magic The Might and Magic Discussion Thread

[Storyfag]

They get an additional slot.

 

[fantadomat]

you can have 2 hireling + quest npc

look at the little arrow

The worst quest was fixing the temple in free heaven. It is the first quest so i don't have to search later for instructor and teacher.

 

[zapotec]

MM6:
I entered the Baa Temple near Castle Ironfist and there were around 20 skeletons 20 acolytes in the same room.
Does it make sense to just raise the bow skill for the knight (level 9) currently i have both sword and bow at 4(expert level).
At this point I am planning to skip sword until reaching master level in bow.

What the hell...

 

[Storyfag]

Oh you sweet summer child.

 

[fantadomat]

master level in bow

Nah,it is a quest related. Best investment early on is in mercantile master and learning master. Also this part of the temple is easy,later on you get fucked if you don't know about the secret passages .







Speaking of MM6,recently i decided to dick around with a high level party and triggered all the possible spawns in the warewolf lair . Run out of SP at one point lol,it was quite the carnage.

 

[fantadomat]

Oh you sweet summer child.

I envy him,do miss the fell when i first played those game,ah the good old times

 

[T. Reich]

MM6:
I entered the Baa Temple near Castle Ironfist and there were around 20 skeletons 20 acolytes in the same room.
Does it make sense to just raise the bow skill for the knight (level 9) currently i have both sword and bow at 4(expert level).
At this point I am planning to skip sword until reaching master level in bow.

What the hell...

Feels like you (and all the other MM6 noobs that popped up here recently) are playing the game all wrong.
MM6-8 are all about mowing down yuge hordes of enemies.
As such, you want to somewhat optimise your monster-killing strategies.

Most importantly - you need to decide on what is your primary monster-killing method:
melee - at least 3 characters in the party need to be melee-capable (as in being able to dual-wield, for which they need to master spear + sword, as well as being able to reach expert dagger). Magic buffs (mostly clerical) are mandatory to reach good results.
When you play melee, you don't fucking waste your time shooting pointy sticks and pooping magic rainbows, you move in for the kill.
ranged - Max bows, focus on recovery time reduction so that you can machinegun later in the game (much harder to do in MM6).
You will fucking suffer in cramped dungeons, but you will be able to breeze the outdoors due to unlimited kiting available to you.
magic - the EZ way. At least 3 elemental magic casters. Focus on fire (fireball+meteor shower) + air (sparks) magic, with minor investments in water (poison spray) + earth (rock blast in MM6, much less useful in later games). Plus you get all those powerful utility spells as a bonus.
You get the two hirelings that boost your (elemental) magic skills. Then you abuse the fuck out of sparks and poison spray, which are the most insanely economical (dmg/mana) and versatile spells in MM6-8 by far.
Meteor shower in outdoors when you need to kill big things fast, fireball/rock blast when you need to kill large + tightly clumpred groups fast.
Dark magic is overrated AF - spells are way too expensive for their effect (except for armageddon, that shit is fun and OP in MM7-8).

Where was I? Oh, yeah, don't mix the playstyles, you will suffer for it.
Correct hirelings are YUGE.
Temples are your friends. Don't be afraid to retreat to heal up and rest.
Turn-based mode for precision and faster killing, real-time for kiting or saving time when you feel like being generous with your party's hp and mana pools.

 

[Valky]

MM6:
I entered the Baa Temple near Castle Ironfist and there were around 20 skeletons 20 acolytes in the same room.
Does it make sense to just raise the bow skill for the knight (level 9) currently i have both sword and bow at 4(expert level).
At this point I am planning to skip sword until reaching master level in bow.

What the hell...

There's a place in the game called Castle Darkmoor, it's a very fun dungeon that you will enjoy.

 

[Storyfag]

There's a place in the game called Castle Darkmoor

Spoiler

The eyes. The eyes!

 

[zapotec]

Well, i managed to clear the Temple of Baa.

My current party:
Knight (Now Cavalier): Actually the marine from Doom, fires arrow like a chaingun.
Archer: Sparkle guy, dies often.
Cleric: Spam a 9 points heal and bless.
Sorcerer (Now Wizard): An ex navi seal, allow the party to swim on water and spam fireball.

I lost Prince Nicolai and can't find anywhere, i remember from Might and Magic 9 that he was inside a circus, maybe is there?

PS
Both Might and Magic 7 and 8 didn't have such amount of monsters excepts the end zones.

PPS
I am inside a tunnel full of slimes, i think there are 30 of them all stuck together, ofcourse they are immune to physcal attacks and my doom marine can't do much.

 

[fantadomat]

Paladin are better than clerics because you don't need that magic much and could dash some nice damage. Some argue that clerics are better because muh light and dark magic,but they are pretty useless outside of few buff spells that a sorcerer could do anyway. L&D damage output is pretty garbage when you include the cost of spellz,it is for rest spammers. If you want good damage dealers,sparks and fire blast are the best.

 

[octavius]

IIRC Light and Dark Magic was not especially powerful in MM6 compared to Elemental Magic, while in MM7 I felt that that Shrapnel and Dragon Breath was much more powerful.

PPS
I am inside a tunnel full of slimes, i think there are 30 of them all stuck together, ofcourse they are immune to physcal attacks and my doom marine can't do much.

Return when your sorc is a Fire Master.

 

[zapotec]

Master of Air requires Archmage status, does it mean my archer will never get the master skill? Or i just need to complete the archmage quest?

 

[fantadomat]

Master of Air requires Archmage status, does it mean my archer will never get the master skill? Or i just need to complete the archmage quest?

the second

 

[T. Reich]

The latter. Your archer will be considered a "honorary" archmage.

 

[Sreggin Etah I]

i've just finished MM7.

It's a good 7/10 game with some annoying bugs(grayface patch btw),surprisingly easy end game.My party was monk,thief,cleric,wizard.

Harddest part of the game for me was fighting water elementals in avlee and fighting behemoths in the breeding pit(without cheese).Even in the end game when i was strong enough to kill dragons by just pressing A,i was still struggling to take down behemoths in melee range,that's show how retarded the breeding pit is.

The final dungeon was extremely easy,i didn't even explored 25% of the dungeon and i had already found the quest item,then town portal away to the pit,game is over.

i also found a way to cheese the bounty hunt missions,thank god.

 

[zapotec]

I did it

Spoiler

One year was spent in jail.

 

[Lonely Vazdru]

Your guys were quite low level for a finishing party. Yes, I'm the completionist kind.

 

[Daidre]

My end game party was around levels 100-110 and I cleaned every map completely but only once (including every Dragon in Dragonsand). I was trying to get expert/master in Learning earlier and often had teacher and instructor hirelings.

 

[octavius]

Mine were lvl 98 and I'm pretty sure I cleaned every map completely too.

 

[Shadenuat]

isn't most xp from xp well not from monsters?

 

[fantadomat]

isn't most xp from xp well not from monsters?

I am not so sure about that,you do kill a lot of monsters in the game.Especially in the later game,when there are almost no quests left. For example the biggest exp quest is the cube,it gives you 500,000 exp,while killing a dragon is around 10,000. So killing 50 dragons is equalling the biggest quest,and there is shit ton of dragons and other strong monsters. Thus you get more exp from killing that quests in generally.

 

[zapotec]

I lost the will to play (and to live) during castle darkmoor quest , so i rushed to the end. Weirdly, i liked Varn tomb.

 

[fantadomat]

I lost the will to play (and to live) during castle darkmoor quest , so i rushed to the end. Weirdly, i liked Varn tomb.

You are a weirdo. Castle darkmoor is blast,last time i did it in a 30minutes maybe an hour. You just have to use layd's beacon and teleport to new sorpigal to get patched at the temple,don't bother sleeping and such. It is a good place to test your MM mastery.

 

[d1nolore]

Which is better out of M&M7 and 8?
I've played M&M6 a heap tonbut wanting to play some M&M.