Might and Magic The Might and Magic Discussion Thread

[octavius]

I used the cluebook for MM1 for the item stats, that's all.
MM2 had a very fat and juicy manual, and in-game ways of getting item info.
MM3-5 are too easy to even justify a cluebook.

 

[fantadomat]

Do you guys use/used the cluebook?

What is that,something like walktrough? If yes,well i used for the older games to get past some of the riddles because i am too lazy to do them.

 

[Eisen]

What is that,something like walktrough?

Basically, yes.

I used the cluebook for MM1 for the item stats, that's all.
MM2 had a very fat and juicy manual, and in-game ways of getting item info.
MM3-5 are too easy to even justify a cluebook.

Darn, i feel bad now , used for some riddles and for "Maze from Hell" in MM3

 

[AArmanFV]

Do you guys use/used the cluebook?

For the riddle of the ruby I used a walkthrough because the answer was crystal and not the most logical (the prism ).

 

[octavius]

The riddles in the MM games are usually not very difficult, at least not compared to the Wizardry 4-7.
The last one in MM2 may be a bit unfair to non-Americans, though.

 

[AArmanFV]

The last one in MM2 may be a bit unfair to non-Americans, though.

I heard that you have 15 minutes to answer that.

 

[azimovhaas8 (Moth)]

The riddles in the MM games are usually not very difficult, at least not compared to the Wizardry 4-7.
The last one in MM2 may be a bit unfair to non-Americans, though.

Hehe, PREAMBLE at it's full force
I still remember this riddle from last run of Might & Magic 2. As i'm not from USA and not from either North or South America's - i been forced to search for related document (do not want to use cheats) in internet.
Only slight problem is inability to save before combat with final boss - so if you fuck up final riddle, good luck with getting from last hotel to "destination point". [Scropia just hated this puzzle, hehe]
Still, it is pretty cool riddle and i understand that JVC considered Might & Magic 2 to be local game of sorts for fellow Americans and people living close by.

Probably one of the reasons why Heroes of Might and Magic series have graphical puzzles (Grails, for example) is that later games in JVC career become more international and by influence and he wanted most players to have fun with puzzles.

 

[7h30n]

The last one in MM2 may be a bit unfair to non-Americans, though.

I heard that you have 15 minutes to answer that.

I'm not an American, and had no problems solving that within the time limit. I had no idea it's the preamble to the U.S. constitution (right?). I think 15 minutes is more than enough for that puzzle, but I may be biased because I've solved these kinds of puzzles before and having a fairly good knowledge of English vocabulary also helped.

 

[Robber Baron]

Ok, this may have been posted already, but some russian dude upscaled all of VIIs textures with AI

Spoiler

BEFORE

AFTER

I haven't tried it myself yet, also the author insists on using his mm7patch.dll to avoid FPS drop and who knows what that dll is doing

 

[Morpheus Kitami]

I don't remember that log being that curved. Huh. Looks better than most AI upscales, but still feels on the same level as Ted Turner's colorization of movies.

 

[PorkyThePaladin]

Been playing Mandate of Heaven the last few days, and it really sucked me in, almost to my surprise, as I generally have a rough history with blobbers. Part of the breakthrough is that I am using Grayface's mods to turn it almost into an FPS control scheme: Always Run, Mouse-Look, One button QuickSave, Tab enabled turn based mod, etc. So this to me fixes a lot of issues I typically have with blobbers.

But aside from that, the game is just DAMN FUN! The constant loop of gratification, talk to NPCs, get quests and buy shit, go fight stuff in massive dungeons or outdoors, get lootz, level up, get new skills, buy spells, and on and on. The graphics are functional enough, and the world has that magic that old RPGs often had, where you feel like you are really stepping into a grand adventure, with massive world regions, different climates, different cities, an everything in between. Most modern games don't have that feel at all. Also, it has to be said, one of the things that makes the world seem so great is the way the NPC dialogue is written and distributed.

Unlike modern RPGs, where as soon as you go anywhere, NPCs vomit a pile of crap into your ears, including tons of needless exposition, and have exclamation marks over their heads, the dialogue in M&M6 is short and to the point. People tell you exactly what you need to know, and leave flowery prose out of it. It also takes effort to find quests, which are actual goals, and dont lead you around by the nose.

 

[Dungeon Lord]

Might and Magic 2
All weapons can have a "+" after them. This plus refers to the bonus to the weapon, both to the chance to hit and damage

If I have a War Hammer = 1-10 damage range
then War Hammer+3 = 4-13 damage range?
or only 1-13 ?

 

[Dorateen]

4-13. The +3 is added to the damage roll.

 

[PorkyThePaladin]

Ok, ran into something in M&M6 that looks like a bug:

My party is Knight - Archer - Cleric - Sorcerer.

The sorcerer has Expert Meditation now.

His points / spellpoints seem to be locked.

Case 1: Ran into 2 barrels of green liquid in a dungeon. Archer drank it, +1 Endurance, +10 hitpoints. Sorcerer drank it, +1 Endurance, no hitpoint change.

Case 2: Equipped +2 Intellect ring and +1 Intellect belt on sorcerer. Intellect goes up on stat screen, spellpoints no change.

Bug or am I missing something?

 

[Dungeon Lord]

You can play M&M2 with great background music.
https://youtu.be/q6pT_tK34No?t=1316

 

[Dungeon Lord]

Ok, ran into something in M&M6 that looks like a bug:

My party is Knight - Archer - Cleric - Sorcerer.

The sorcerer has Expert Meditation now.

His points / spellpoints seem to be locked.

Case 1: Ran into 2 barrels of green liquid in a dungeon. Archer drank it, +1 Endurance, +10 hitpoints. Sorcerer drank it, +1 Endurance, no hitpoint change.

Case 2: Equipped +2 Intellect ring and +1 Intellect belt on sorcerer. Intellect goes up on stat screen, spellpoints no change.

Bug or am I missing something?

I suspect that the HP only changes at some endurance values. For example endurance=10-15 +10HP, 15-20 +20HP etc
Exact values: http://www.pottsland.com/mm6/attributes2.shtml

 

[Dungeon Lord]

What am I doing wrong?
I cannot play M&M2 in the proper way.
Proper way:
I step onto a new grid field. I press S to search. I turn to North, West, South, East. I check the map where I am. Step onto the next field..etc. ad nauseum.
This is incredibly boring and tiresome.

 

[Strange Fellow]

What am I doing wrong?
I cannot play M&M2 in the proper way.
Proper way:
I step onto a new grid field. I press S to search. I turn to North, West, South, East. I check the map where I am. Step onto the next field..etc. ad nauseum.
This is incredibly boring and tiresome.

Did you try not doing those things?

 

[PorkyThePaladin]

What am I doing wrong?
I cannot play M&M2 in the proper way.

Starting with M&M2.

The proper way is to start with World of Xeen.

 

[index.php]

What am I doing wrong?
I cannot play M&M2 in the proper way.
Proper way:
I step onto a new grid field. I press S to search. I turn to North, West, South, East. I check the map where I am. Step onto the next field..etc. ad nauseum.
This is incredibly boring and tiresome.

https://www.eskimo.com/~edv/lockscroll/WhereAreWe/

 

[Dorateen]

What am I doing wrong?
I cannot play M&M2 in the proper way.

Starting with M&M2.

The proper way is to start with World of Xeen M&M1.

 

[MajorMace]

I mentioned it a few weeks ago, the m&m inspired ttrpg from Julien Pirou is available in English soon. They translated the quickstart guide apparently, which constitues a preview.

 

[Darth Canoli]

Starting with M&M2.

The proper way is to start with Isles of Terra World of Xeen M&M1.

Masochism is a thing, i get why people like to get flogged and have their balls crushed but playing M&M 1 & 2 nowadays before playing M&M 3-8, that's next level masochism...

 

[<3sRichardSimmons]

I don't derive much enjoyment playing MM1&2 these days. I loved them back when, but the UI is just too clunky and the beginnings are too grindy for me as an old man. Ditto with Wizardries pre-VI (which likely means I'll never actually beat IV), and even my most recent playthrough of VI stalled a few years ago. I know, I know: I'm part of the decline.

 

[octavius]

Getting old is only a valid excuse for real time games.