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Might and Magic The Might and Magic Discussion Thread
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6 7 8 merge mod.
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after skimming through last few pages im not sold on it
Lacrymas
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I'd begin with Isles of Terra if you already have experience with blobbers, if not then M&MX.
Well, if you love 8, you're in luck. 6-7-8 are pretty much the same game with different coating, so you have a lot of gaming ahead of you. Personally, 6 is my favourite of the three. Big nostalgic map with cliché regions, not too many limitations in mastery, etc.
3/4/5 (4-5 combine into Wold of Xeen) are fantastic, but a different thing, with grid-based movement and turn-based combat, so they might not work for you depending on taste.
1-2 are pretty old, as you can see from Arulan's screenshots. Only go down that road if you're really into rpg history or a franchise completionist.
I am yet to play X myself, but the wife did and enjoyed it. It's a compromise return to the grid-based game, and seems generally well received for what it is.
We don't talk about 9.
Baron Dupek
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For the first time just go with M&M 6 + Grayface patch.
Then VII and VIII and later - III and 4+5 aka World of Xeen, depends how old games you can play and how much you can stomatch their quirks.
Then VII and VIII and later - III and 4+5 aka World of Xeen, depends how old games you can play and how much you can stomatch their quirks.
Arulan
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I'm going to have to disagree that Might & Magic 1 isn't worth revisiting on its own merits. I'm having a great time with it.
The exploration is a real highlight here. There always seems to be something interesting to find to keep you going, and I personally find the mapping really enjoyable.
It has been a while since I've played the rest of the series, but the combat here may be one of the best. There is a good variety of interesting spells, and more importantly good reasons to use them. Between the system determining who is in melee range, the challenge difficulty, and the aforementioned spells, you rarely feel like you're just pressing (A)ttack through fights.
I don't remember if it worked this way in subsequent entries, but even something as simple as Fireball adds some thought regarding tactics. Sometimes it may be worth throwing it in melee (despite hitting your whole party) to kill especially lethal enemies. Otherwise a Lightning Bolt (1-3 enemies vs 1-5 of Fireball) may do fine to avoid friendly fire.
The exploration is a real highlight here. There always seems to be something interesting to find to keep you going, and I personally find the mapping really enjoyable.
It has been a while since I've played the rest of the series, but the combat here may be one of the best. There is a good variety of interesting spells, and more importantly good reasons to use them. Between the system determining who is in melee range, the challenge difficulty, and the aforementioned spells, you rarely feel like you're just pressing (A)ttack through fights.
I don't remember if it worked this way in subsequent entries, but even something as simple as Fireball adds some thought regarding tactics. Sometimes it may be worth throwing it in melee (despite hitting your whole party) to kill especially lethal enemies. Otherwise a Lightning Bolt (1-3 enemies vs 1-5 of Fireball) may do fine to avoid friendly fire.
Morpheus Kitami
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To expand upon what others have said.
MM1 & 2 are more like early Wizardry games. You don't really see me on the enemies, they're effectively just lines of text. Supposedly, they're some of the better ones, but I know I have yet to wrap my head around it, and I've played more than my fair share of early computer games. You might want to check out the differences between ports before deciding on one.
MM3-5 are very nice, the high point of open-world blobbers. They're not confusing to get around, but if you do want to play them, start with 3. 4/5 add minor QOL stuff that might make you miss them in 3. There's also Swords of Xeen, which I can't say I've ever spent more than 5 minutes on for some reason.
MM6-8, well, there's a reason why there's a merge mod. Overall, while there are minor differences between games, none of which means each game is strictly better than another. Especially in the skill system, since each game has some weird quirk going on there.
MM9 is a weird, broken game that's interesting as a relic of early '00s 3D, but not really that fun to actually play.
MMX, lol Ubisoft.
Poseidon00
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Question about the merge mod- does this combine all races + class combos together? I noticed Goblins exist in 7 and Vampires exist in 8, no druids or monks in 8 etc. This brings everything in to all 3? And I can start with any game yes?
nigga this thread is 260 pages long.
nigga this thread is 260 pages long.
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You can start on whatever continent (game) you want and play them in any order.
There is a race/class unlocker that should allow you to play anything including dragons. I don't think there is any class/race missing.
Over at:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/...li8_APq3a_ECxmZ3o/edit#heading=h.qd2hj16j5i7i
page 37 you can see how the classes can get promoted.
Efe
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there are some provided defaults in extras folders.one of hem completely separates race and classes.
humans get +1 to max tier of several skills. vampires get +1 vampire ability and regeneration, it goes on for each.
but if you make a vampire monk in mm6 you are not going to get promoted till you dimension hop.
iirc in base mod, you take a peasant which have the option to change classes (only once) so you start 6 and have them become dark elves when you visit 8. peasants suck balls though
humans get +1 to max tier of several skills. vampires get +1 vampire ability and regeneration, it goes on for each.
but if you make a vampire monk in mm6 you are not going to get promoted till you dimension hop.
iirc in base mod, you take a peasant which have the option to change classes (only once) so you start 6 and have them become dark elves when you visit 8. peasants suck balls though
DaveO
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Merge questions are best directed to folks on the Discord server not here. I still intend to move my solo dragon to go to MM7 ASAP and play a good amount there first before going back to MM6. MM8 will be last due to how easy it is to get money and go up levels without fighting much.
Arulan
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Spent most of my time today exploring this cave I found -- Korin Bluffs.
Levitate certainly came in handy for some pit traps here. Those teleport tiles can be pretty annoying though. It took me quite a bit of time just to map what I have now.
On the bright side, I found some Thundranium, which as far as I can tell is incredible. A substantial + Might with ~200 charges?!
Oh, and I found some secret captives in [1, 12]. It's really only a spoiler if you've never played an entry in the series.
Levitate certainly came in handy for some pit traps here. Those teleport tiles can be pretty annoying though. It took me quite a bit of time just to map what I have now.
On the bright side, I found some Thundranium, which as far as I can tell is incredible. A substantial + Might with ~200 charges?!
Oh, and I found some secret captives in [1, 12]. It's really only a spoiler if you've never played an entry in the series.
Arulan
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I found my way through Korin Bluffs to find...
I made my way to the Forest Stronghold for which I had already found a note earlier marking its location.
On second thought, I continued to explore some of Varn. I'm close to getting access to Level 4 spells which should make my descent into the Stronghold far better.
The sense of exploration, the map layout, and pacing are really superb here. Little things like this peak to foreshadow what you'll find ahead and give you direction really help drive it home. It's sad how many modern 3D open-worlds cannot even do that.
I found this Defense Cloak (+2 AC) which is really helpful. I may have Bori use a 2H weapon now.
the Wizard Ranalou. The clues from the statues in Sorpigal are starting to come together. I'm not sure I want to break out prisoners right now though.
I made my way to the Forest Stronghold for which I had already found a note earlier marking its location.
On second thought, I continued to explore some of Varn. I'm close to getting access to Level 4 spells which should make my descent into the Stronghold far better.
The sense of exploration, the map layout, and pacing are really superb here. Little things like this peak to foreshadow what you'll find ahead and give you direction really help drive it home. It's sad how many modern 3D open-worlds cannot even do that.
I found this Defense Cloak (+2 AC) which is really helpful. I may have Bori use a 2H weapon now.
Nope, but it’s not that bad outside of the golem dungeon, and by that time you should have Lloyd’s beacon and at least two casters so you can pop back and forth to Burlock in a nonce.
And if by then you don't have a naked Barbarian capable of killing diamond golems with his fists, you're playing the game wrong.
How damn great are these games... had a gaming session that was supposed to be a couple of hours and was almost 5 hours of simply pure fun; clearing out the Temple of the Snake (gancking the hell out of that Golden Dragon to get TWO “of the Gods” pieces of sweet gear) avoid shooting the peasants, buying a boatload of Light & Dark spells and listening to perhaps the best soundtrack to an RPG ever
Of all the memories that come to fantastic life during these delightful gaming session I manage to have from time to time, I think the Might and Magic games, Ultima Underworld and Arx Fatalis are by far the most fun
Of all the memories that come to fantastic life during these delightful gaming session I manage to have from time to time, I think the Might and Magic games, Ultima Underworld and Arx Fatalis are by far the most fun
I have a question regarding magic items on MM6; I read somewhere that the effects don’t stack but does that apply to all item regardless they be weapons, armor or ring?
I have a Wizard who wears a couple of mana regeneration rings and a bow that regenerates mana too, does the bow and the highest quality ring stack up or the item that has the highest value (possibly meaning better enchantment) is the only one that is applied?
I have a Wizard who wears a couple of mana regeneration rings and a bow that regenerates mana too, does the bow and the highest quality ring stack up or the item that has the highest value (possibly meaning better enchantment) is the only one that is applied?
I'm playing through MM 7 and I'm not enjoying it as much as 6. I love that it added new races and classes, but feel like it would have been better with a 5 person party so you could take one of the hybrid classes. I took the default party since I wanted to make sure I could grandmaster all the magics as well as disarm and repair item. I always get a hireling to take care of identify item.
I also don't have town portal yet so it's a pain in the ass to get around.
I also don't have town portal yet so it's a pain in the ass to get around.
Yes, for some reason 7 doesn't give me the same enjoyment 6 and 8 do. I *think* the game world is bleaker, or something, the colours not as vibrant.
Get the merge mod. It allows you to play 6, 7 and 8 in any order in 8s engine, and that means a 5 person party.
That dungeon is just so perfectly encapsulates the feeling of old school dungeons; looong winding corridors, relentless attacks by undead, hidden switches, secret pathways and a “boss fight” with just the perfect level of urgency after you have done a 2 hour dungeon trek and are just about ready to have to go to sleep and then boom you are fighting a Power Lich... who got wasted by a couple of Destroy Undead light spells bit still proved challenging and fun enough
I know there are “better” dungeons both in design and theme but to me it was just delightful and that seems to be a pretty accurate way to describe the Might and Magic series overall
Darth Canoli
Arcane
The traveling spells should all belong to one lower level of mastery, most of the time, when i replay the late trilogy, i use the editor to add town portal fairly early.
The party size is also a huge decline (you had better early travel means in early M&M like mirrors), from 6+2 to 6 to 4 and 4+1, finally.
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