Might and Magic The Might and Magic Discussion Thread

[fantadomat]

putting that garbage mmx in the same space as actual mm games,shame on you.

 

[lukaszek]

Electric scooterish thing can be taken to metro/train and in general be mighty fine city transportation method.

 

[octavius]

But which one is able carry 250 pounds of Danish hakkebøf?

 

[Grunker]

 

[Darth Canoli]

Electric scooterish thing can be taken to metro/train and in general be mighty fine city transportation method.

Neckbeard detected!

ALERT! Everyone to the combat stations, ready to fire at my command!

 

[RatTower]

Playing MM6 right now. Standard party loadout.
Currently doing the last few council quests.

Any recommendations for mid to late game?

 

[octavius]

Blasters.
Real Time.
Have fun.

 

[Darth Canoli]

So, I picked a save of a M&M VI Chiyolate run, rushing toward the end, i'm at the oracle crystal's quest.
Good things:

• Better artifacts weapons, some of them really sucked so it's really nice.
• Expert and Master trainers info on the skill sheet, great as well.

Bad:

• It's easier, monsters were buffed but weapons as well and monsters give way too much xp now.

I didn't play M&M VI for a long time, last time was with the chaos conspiracy, which wasn't quite right either, too much bloat but without the buffs and I didn't remember how water mastery was accessible in M&M 6, real decline in M&M 7 and 8 on this part.

Also, The Chaos Conspiracy was redone by Grayface, so it's probably better now but i'm not sure he did part 2 (chaos conspiracy has two parts, don't ask me why)

The perfect Might & Magic would be:

1. Isles of terra with M&M 8 sound effects.
2. Mandate of Heaven with Arcomage and weapons artifacts being the best weapons, by far.
3. Clouds of Xeen without the Red dwarf mines and M&M 8 sound effects

 

[octavius]

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The perfect Might & Magic would be:

1. Isles of terra with M&M 8 sound effects.
2. Mandate of Heaven with Arcomage and weapons artifacts being the best weapons, by far.
3. Clouds of Xeen without the Red dwarf mines and M&M 8 sound effects

To me it would be the MM6 world, skill system and quests, with MM2 combat and items, and no level scaling.

BTW, what's "M&M VI Chiyolate run"?

 

[Efe]

Chiyolate Fun & Balanced MM6 Mod makes MM6 more enjoyable for all types of parties.

Changes

Spoiler

Weapon stats, armors, monsters' HPs, EXPs, golds, drop rates, and a lot of things have been carefully adjusted and boosted to make the gameplay much more satisfying and rewarding.
Expect to finish this game at Lv.300+ and have maxed out some skills! This game now feels modern and complete!
Blast through tougher monsters with either powerful combinations of melee weapons or Lv.60 spells is now possible without killing 3 of your party members. But you can still play solo in this mod to make it even harder and challenging.
Never worry again if you're playing with a full melee party, because wizard's eye and torchlight spell scrolls are now abundant!
Annoying monsters' spells have also been readjusted for a better non-frustrating gaming experience.
You can now play MM6 without switching back and forth to a webpage for potion recipes, skill teachers locations, etc because you can now just right-click and find it in the description!
Item enchantments have also been boosted to make your party building more fun!

Just try Chiyolate Fun & Balanced MM6 Mod and feel the power!


first result of google search for exact phrase

 

[Cryomancer]

Stat bloat
No monsters are immune at 0:10

No interest. I don't wanna more bloated stats for monsters and removing immunity is a

I don't wanna fire specialized wizards burning fire elementals Dark Schneider style. Mainly because M&M 6 is very generous with damage types. For example, if you mastered air magic, you can deal lightning damage with lightning bolt or physical damage with implosion. Water magic has cold, poison and physical damaging spells. Dark, physical and poison. Removing insta death from enemies is another thing that I din't liked. Monsters mindless charging towards you, I also din't liked.

I really wanna a mod which allows you to play M&M VI with inhuman races. Preferentially M&M 8 races but not "races as classes". Where I can find M&M 6 mods?

 

[octavius]

This game now feels modern

Annoying monsters' spells have also been readjusted for a better non-frustrating gaming experience.

Hmm...is this a good thing?

 

[Efe]

I think it sucks too
a tour around sorpigal and goblinwatch makes you lv15+ in an hour, basic bow does 10d2 dmg
its probably made by someone that doesnt actually enjoy m&m

 

[Darth Canoli]

The perfect Might & Magic would be:

1. Isles of terra with M&M 8 sound effects.
2. Mandate of Heaven with Arcomage and weapons artifacts being the best weapons, by far.
3. Clouds of Xeen without the Red dwarf mines and M&M 8 sound effects

To me it would be the MM6 world, skill system and quests, with MM2 combat and items, and no level scaling.

Interesting, I can't compare M&M 2 items because I didn't play it but I doubt there is a revolution there, would you care to develop?

As for the combat, I suppose it's a matter of taste, I'm not a big fan of Bard's Tale combat (M&M 2's combat looks like BT's combat) but I can hardly say I'm a big fan of M&M combat either, let's say it's harmless, mostly alright with some interesting fights every now and then, Isles of Terra combat was way more interesting but it's arguably the same system with a better (un)balance.

As for Chiyolate, I don't recommend it, aside from the two interesting features I mentioned, it makes the game way faster to complete mostly due to items stats bloat, you can get +450/550 (possibly up to 600, i guess) items, be it STR, INT or even HP and SP.
2x +500 HP on a magic user is overpowered.

About monsters, I don't think it completely disabled immunities, i think i remember oozes being immune to regular weapons (without + fire and such).
Also, A supreme Titan would go from 1.2K HP to 25K HP but weapons are 2x/4x more powerful (plus the items stats bloat).
The worst thing besides +500 HP armors and shields is the xp boost monsters got, my party is level 300 and eligible to 320+ and i only completed 22/39 dungeons.

Last but not least, I found an excel chart on some M&M website where you can just check dungeons, obelisks, promotions quests and council quests. It beats writing it down on a piece of paper which always turns out quite messy.

 

[octavius]

Interesting, I can't compare M&M 2 items because I didn't play it but I doubt there is a revolution there, would you care to develop?

Just that I like the idea of having occasionally seeing defeated monsters drop Doomsday Boxes which means a chance of finding +64 items. It means you can always get better items, and combat doesn't become a chore. But by all means, itemization is already very good in MM6, so I agree there would be no revolution.
About combat, MM2 has the most tactical combat of the abstract blobber type combat, at least among western RPGs.

 

[Darth Canoli]

Just that I like the idea of having occasionally seeing defeated monsters drop Doomsday Boxes which means a chance of finding +64 items. It means you can always get better items, and combat doesn't become a chore. But by all means, itemization is already very good in MM6, so I agree there would be no revolution.
About combat, MM2 has the most tactical combat of the abstract blobber type combat, at least among western RPGs.

So far, I'd give that spot to Wizardry 8, I don't think BT's combat is more tactical.

+64 items ^^'
Well, with that M&M 6 mod, Excalibur is now +54...
It's over the top, I just want a M&M 6 mod adding Arcomage and giving +1 or 2 dices and +2/4 hit damage compared to their current stats.

Two Artifacts weapons (1H swords) from vanilla M&M VI

Hades Longsword 3d3+15 30000 +20 Poison Damage, +20 Luck, Thievery, Negative Regeneration
-->3d6+18

Excalibur Broadsword 3d4+12 20000 +30 Might
-->3d7+15 (+50 Might)

 

[Storyfag]

No interest. I don't wanna more bloated stats for monsters and removing immunity is a

I don't wanna fire specialized wizards burning fire elementals Dark Schneider style. Mainly because M&M 6 is very generous with damage types. For example, if you mastered air magic, you can deal lightning damage with lightning bolt or physical damage with implosion. Water magic has cold, poison and physical damaging spells. Dark, physical and poison. Removing insta death from enemies is another thing that I din't liked. Monsters mindless charging towards you, I also din't liked.

I really wanna a mod which allows you to play M&M VI with inhuman races. Preferentially M&M 8 races but not "races as classes". Where I can find M&M 6 mods?

The MMMerge mod is there for you.

 

[octavius]

So far, I'd give that spot to Wizardry 8,

Well, that's more like a pseudo blobber. But I guess I should have qualified my statement with "of the games I've played" (will probably play Wiz 8 later this year).

 

[Darth Canoli]

My bad, Excalibur is +65 and Hades +54 ^^'
Also, Chiyolate adds alchemy recipes in the empty bottles tooltip, I'd be against on a first playthrough but on a replay, it's quite alright, you're going to look the recipes up anyway.

Now, I want to play The Chaos Conspiracy (M1M 6 mod) revised by Grayface but probably next year, with luk, part two will be revised as well then.

Well, you'll probably love Wizardry 8, don't forget the speedmods though.

 

[Morpheus Kitami]

Now, I want to play The Chaos Conspiracy (M1M 6 mod) revised by Grayface but probably next year, with luk, part two will be revised as well then.

What does the first part of that actually do? I remember briefly trying it after finishing MM6 a year or so ago and thinking, hey, this is just MM6 again! Without any changes.

 

[Darth Canoli]

What does the first part of that actually do? I remember briefly trying it after finishing MM6 a year or so ago and thinking, hey, this is just MM6 again! Without any changes.

It just completely changes the main quest, then buffs all the monsters, i'm not sure about itemization changes.
And there's Grayface's revized version, which is certainly better but i didn't play it, the original Chaos Conspiracy was a bit too hard, not that you couldn't beat it but you'd have to excessively use hit and run tactics and hide in corners to take some enemies out one by one, like in the cellar with all those undead, a real nightmare.

 

[Horizonwalker]

Ubisoft China hiring World Director [Might & Magic] in Shanghai, Shanghai, China | LinkedIn
Another job posting via linkedin, some concrete details as well.

 

[cthscr]

Now, I want to play The Chaos Conspiracy (M1M 6 mod) revised by Grayface but probably next year, with luk, part two will be revised as well then.

Did you mean David Hernandez (DaveHer) Enhanced version or am I missing something?

 

[cthscr]

I don't wanna fire specialized wizards burning fire elementals Dark Schneider style. Mainly because M&M 6 is very generous with damage types. For example, if you mastered air magic, you can deal lightning damage with lightning bolt or physical damage with implosion. Water magic has cold, poison and physical damaging spells. Dark, physical and poison. Removing insta death from enemies is another thing that I din't liked. Monsters mindless charging towards you, I also din't liked.

I really wanna a mod which allows you to play M&M VI with inhuman races. Preferentially M&M 8 races but not "races as classes". Where I can find M&M 6 mods?

The MMMerge mod is there for you.

Merge uses MM8's spell system. Restrictions on spell damage type. Could be mitigated by editing spells.txt.
Merge uses mostly MM7's skill system. Restrictions on spells learnable. Could be mitigated by editing Data/Tables/SpellsLearning.txt in Revamp.
Together these systems give you spells that have no defined behavior for lower skill masteries (usually it turns into usage of first available mastery parameters). Requires one to patch mm8.exe to mitigate.

 

[octavius]

Why don't they just shanghai JVC?