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[Butter]

Isles of Terra also had RPCs, something they cut in Xeen (I suspect purely for UI design reasons).

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

I can't recall if different platforms playing Xeen are much different. A slight more challenge is Swords of Xeen.

 

[index.php]

Might and Magic 1 with Xeen User Interface - March 2023

A progress update of my current work implementing a Xeen look and feel for the Might and Magic Book One game. With this update you can see some of the new title screen and party selection, along with the in-game view and several common locations like training and the taverns using the Xeen equivalents.

 

[Luzur]

Might and Magic 1 with Xeen User Interface - March 2023

A progress update of my current work implementing a Xeen look and feel for the Might and Magic Book One game. With this update you can see some of the new title screen and party selection, along with the in-game view and several common locations like training and the taverns using the Xeen equivalents.

looks cool, now add in the Xeen or MM3 textures to the main game aswell

 

[Ysaye]

Might and Magic 1 with Xeen User Interface - March 2023

A progress update of my current work implementing a Xeen look and feel for the Might and Magic Book One game. With this update you can see some of the new title screen and party selection, along with the in-game view and several common locations like training and the taverns using the Xeen equivalents.

looks cool, now add in the Xeen or MM3 textures to the main game aswell

I don't know, I am more nostalgic for that MacIntosh look (windowed with mouse buttons) implementing the Apple 2 textures, maybe recreated in Windows or for full prestige in Linux Unbuntu. Of course arguably a version for Apple Mac might also make historical sense.....

 

[TheDeveloperDude]

I am playing Might and Magic VI: Mandate of Heaven with a solo knight. Do you know how difficult that is? Dragging three corpses behind me?

 

[lukaszek]

I am playing Might and Magic VI: Mandate of Heaven with a solo knight. Do you know how difficult that is? Dragging three corpses behind me?

easier than solo mm8 - your dead corpses can carry things, like big coffin taking half of your inv space

 

[Ryan muller]

finished world of xeen, yeah, quite disappointing

Ive heard 6 is quite similar in gameplay so i should pass it by now and sometime i will probably delve into 1 and 2 instead

 

[Broseph]

finished world of xeen, yeah, quite disappointing

Ive heard 6 is quite similar in gameplay so i should pass it by now and sometime i will probably delve into 1 and 2 instead

6 is not really all that similar to Xeen in gameplay. Yes it’s still a dungeon crawling blobber but the environments are in 3D allowing for some of the best and most memorable dungeons in the series, it has free roaming movement instead of grid-based and you can switch between real time and turn-based combat on the fly. It’s the pinnacle of M&M gameplay IMO.

 

[octavius]

1, 2 and 6 are all very good and have superior gameplay to the Xeen games. Play them all.

 

[TheDeveloperDude]

MM6 npcs

Arms Master

+2 All Arms & Weapons

Weapons Master

+3 All Weapons Skills

the difference is All Arms - what is that meaning? bows or what?

 

[Ryan muller]

finished world of xeen, yeah, quite disappointing

Ive heard 6 is quite similar in gameplay so i should pass it by now and sometime i will probably delve into 1 and 2 instead

6 is not really all that similar to Xeen in gameplay. Yes it’s still a dungeon crawling blobber but the environments are in 3D allowing for some of the best and most memorable dungeons in the series, it has free roaming movement instead of grid-based and you can switch between real time and turn-based combat on the fly. It’s the pinnacle of M&M gameplay IMO.

My problems with WoX standed for its terrible itemization (played half of the game with my stuff broken, didnt notice a difference)

The way physical attacks overshadowed spells (even with my equipment broken)

Lack of interesting encounters since most of the time theres only one enemy type for fight instead of a variety of formations

And how theres absolutely no challenge if you dont sequence break the game and explore places with extremely high level enemies. Specially when transitioning from cloud to darkside i was basically a god


If 6 fixed those and add better puzzles than "open the chests in order to form the word pitchfork" as well as a more balanced economy, then i would go for it

But seeing gameplays 2 seems like more of my cup of tea

 

[Snufkin]

I am playing Might and Magic VI: Mandate of Heaven with a solo knight. Do you know how difficult that is? Dragging three corpses behind me?

Someone did this on youtube till the end LOL , solo no reload.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWAj21NfuAY

 

[Broseph]

finished world of xeen, yeah, quite disappointing

Ive heard 6 is quite similar in gameplay so i should pass it by now and sometime i will probably delve into 1 and 2 instead

6 is not really all that similar to Xeen in gameplay. Yes it’s still a dungeon crawling blobber but the environments are in 3D allowing for some of the best and most memorable dungeons in the series, it has free roaming movement instead of grid-based and you can switch between real time and turn-based combat on the fly. It’s the pinnacle of M&M gameplay IMO.

My problems with WoX standed for its terrible itemization (played half of the game with my stuff broken, didnt notice a difference)

The way physical attacks overshadowed spells (even with my equipment broken)

Lack of interesting encounters since most of the time theres only one enemy type for fight instead of a variety of formations

And how theres absolutely no challenge if you dont sequence break the game and explore places with extremely high level enemies. Specially when transitioning from cloud to darkside i was basically a god


If 6 fixed those and add better puzzles than "open the chests in order to form the word pitchfork" as well as a more balanced economy, then i would go for it

But seeing gameplays 2 seems like more of my cup of tea

I think 6 is a challenging game if you don’t have meta knowledge from having played it beforehand. There are some decent puzzles as well. As far as the encounter design goes it’s still mostly trash mobs but the same is true of most games in the series.

 

[Average Manatee]

6 lets you play in real time like you're a party of doomguys circlestrafing mobs of enemies, all armed with lightning shotguns. Really the separate engines of M&M games shouldn't even be compared, they are almost a whole genre apart.

 

[grimer]

As far as the encounter design goes it’s still mostly trash mobs but the same is true of most games in the series.

at least in 6 you're fighting hordes of enemies at once as opposed to 3 at a time in mm3-5

But seeing gameplays 2 seems like more of my cup of tea

peak combat in the entire series. dynamic front/rear flanks, huge variety of enemies with different gimmicks (jugglers, crazed natives, etc), resource management bc of restricted saving at inns and random encounters, actually useful crowd control spells. it might even be more tactical than the early wizardry games if they didn't have permadeath

dungeon design is a mixed bag. there are a few with devious layouts like one with a gauntlet (one way doors into fixed encounters), one with teleporter spam, one with invisible walls but it wraps around, but also some really boring ones that are just hallways with rooms of enemies. vast majority of dungeons also lack puzzles which make them kinda dry especially the ones with boring layouts.

there's also a better balance between might and magic. might is not as strong as in 3-5 due to the lack of obsidian weapons and to find weapons of similar quality you'd have to farm the strongest enemies in the game. magic is more useful due to crowd control spells which are essential when fighting hordes of enemies but you're most likely going to be casting damaging spells like fireball from enchanted items to conserve sp. i'm not sure if you can get ambushed while resting in a dungeon bc i always cast guard dog before doing so.

anyway, if you're looking for something more challenging then you should really play 2. it's probably the hardest game in the entire series which isn't saying much but the difference between 2 and 3-5 is enormous.

 

[Fearlessjay]

6 is great. Nothing like Xeen. But it doesn't have tactical options and is a product of its time. I'm just sad there are no games like this been produced any more. It was quite simplistic even in it's time but the depth of its system made you feel like there was a lot more. Also had great music.

 

[TheDeveloperDude]

https://github.com/Malekitsu/MM6-MAW-Monster-Arts-and-Wonders

MM6 mod! Have Anyone played it?

 

[Fearlessjay]

Looks good. Have to give it a try. Been playing the MM6/7/8 combined mod and that's great. Nice playing Acromage in MM6.

 

[lukaszek]

https://github.com/Malekitsu/MM6-MAW-Monster-Arts-and-Wonders

MM6 mod! Have Anyone played it?

Archers also have bonus critical damage with Daggers (175% with 1 dagger, 300% with 2 daggers) making it a really good dagger user.


Archer can now use dark magic.

lol. Someone over there must really love archers.

 

[Storyfag]

https://github.com/Malekitsu/MM6-MAW-Monster-Arts-and-Wonders

MM6 mod! Have Anyone played it?

Saw "monster arts" in title. Was hopeful someone replaced some of the monster sprites with those from later entries. Clicked the link. Was disappointed.

 

[Grampy_Bone]

Ive heard 6 is quite similar in gameplay so i should pass it by now and sometime i will probably delve into 1 and 2 instead

I don't know why this forum fellates MM6 so much, that game scales so badly it is borderline unplayable after about the 40-50% mark. Classes are super limited and magic is pathetically weak. Enjoy sitting and casting 50 healing spells at a time every fight because magic is so worthless. The skill system is completely half-baked and was not tested enough. It's all fixed in MM7 but the dungeons aren't as big. Boo hoo.

I say play MM7, but if you play MM6 play it with Grayface's mod that adds MM7's skills and MM8's engine. Having Grandmaster skills and spells that actually scale up makes a huge difference. Then it's really fun.

MM1 is pretty primitive but MM2 is perfectly good too.

 

[baba is you]

I don't know why, but I think Might and Magic 1 the best.

Obviously, the system additions and improvements are most noticeable in Might and Magic 2, but I didn't like the fact that I had to know the U.S. Constitution to finish the game myself.

 

[Grampy_Bone]

Happy Merchant detected..

 

[Volourn]

Might and Magic 11 when?