Might and Magic The Might and Magic Discussion Thread

[KeighnMcDeath]

Which platform version of MM2 you playing?

 

[Dorateen]

Pirate's Crossbow

Spoiler

Thievery + 10
Accuracy +15
Damage 8
Gold value 3,000
Usable by Knights, Paladins, Archers, Robbers and Ninjas

Looter Knife

Spoiler

Thievery + 15
Damage 6
Gold value 400
Usable by Knights, Paladins, Archers, Sorcerers, Robbers and Ninjas, Barbarians

I happen to have Corak's Travelogue close at hand and wanted to share.

 

[Quatlo]

Someone is working on multiplayer mod for MMMerge. Looks pretty amazing to be honest. From little posts on the forums it seems to work without any major troubles (I can stomach game crashing if I can just load without any trouble)

 

[Lonely Vazdru]

Impressive. Most impressive.

 

[octavius]

Is the dark side stronger?

 

[Storyfag]

Is the dark side stronger?

SHRAPMETAL! UNLIMITED SHRAAAPMEEEETAAAL!

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

I was thinking about multi-play mods for older games. Sure, my mind was thinking about solo like TES games, ultima underworlds, etc but party based would be cool. The epic battles or ass-kicking stompfest of party vs party in say bards tale, wizardry sagas, might & magic, magic candle, etc etc

 

[TheDeveloperDude]

M&M2 Gates to another world

I want a clerics-sorcerers only party. But can I disarm chests without a robber/ninja?
Any available spell, item etc?
I know I cannot equip the Thief's pick. :-(

As far as I'm aware there's no way to get thievery on a non-robber/ninja and no item/spell to replicate it.

You could eat the traps, but that's not something I'd recommend.

All said and done however, this is not MM6-8. There's enough anti-magic zones and enemies just flat out immune to spells that I could only describe such a playthrough as "ball busting hard"

edit - oh, and gems will be a serious issue. Unless you plan on using the absolute piss weak spells or just having half your characters act as fighter-wannabes or something most of the time

Bad news indeed.
What about a 3 paladin + 3 archers party? I will hire Phooey ninja for disarming.

 

[Mauman]

M&M2 Gates to another world

I want a clerics-sorcerers only party. But can I disarm chests without a robber/ninja?
Any available spell, item etc?
I know I cannot equip the Thief's pick. :-(

As far as I'm aware there's no way to get thievery on a non-robber/ninja and no item/spell to replicate it.

You could eat the traps, but that's not something I'd recommend.

All said and done however, this is not MM6-8. There's enough anti-magic zones and enemies just flat out immune to spells that I could only describe such a playthrough as "ball busting hard"

edit - oh, and gems will be a serious issue. Unless you plan on using the absolute piss weak spells or just having half your characters act as fighter-wannabes or something most of the time

Bad news indeed.
What about a 3 paladin + 3 archers party? I will hire Phooey ninja for disarming.

You wouldn't have access to level 8 and 9 spells. That too would be painful at times. I'd say less painful though

I suppose if you wanted most of your party to be spell casters but not do weird shenanigans to get thievery (yes, you can evidently, but it's still not an easy process to level it up and besides, having a robber helps with the class quests) you could do something like 3/2 archer/paladins (or the other way around), one cleric, one sorcerer, and one robber. Or 3/3 archer/paladins if you want to try your luck with the ice dagger for thievery. One of the lowest level and easiest hirelings to get is Ariel (a sorceress) in the volcano town. Big Bootay is a cleric who can easily be aquired in Atlantium by abusing fountains and skill potions. Though she's a bit higher in level (I want to say in the 20's).

That would probably work out pretty well.

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

Post a pic of her "bootay."

 

[Mauman]

Post a pic of her "bootay."

The hireling names in MM2 can be....interesting to say the least.

 

[Ysaye]

Post a pic of her "bootay."

The hireling names in MM2 can be....interesting to say the least.

None of them really beat the pre-made Gnome Cleric Gene Eric from M&M1 though.

 

[madrigal]

M&M2 Gates to another world

I want a clerics-sorcerers only party. But can I disarm chests without a robber/ninja?
Any available spell, item etc?
I know I cannot equip the Thief's pick. :-(

As far as I'm aware there's no way to get thievery on a non-robber/ninja and no item/spell to replicate it.

You could eat the traps, but that's not something I'd recommend.

All said and done however, this is not MM6-8. There's enough anti-magic zones and enemies just flat out immune to spells that I could only describe such a playthrough as "ball busting hard"

edit - oh, and gems will be a serious issue. Unless you plan on using the absolute piss weak spells or just having half your characters act as fighter-wannabes or something most of the time

Bad news indeed.
What about a 3 paladin + 3 archers party? I will hire Phooey ninja for disarming.

6 Archers easiest party to play. They can shoot from any position, bows do more damage than a knights melee weapon. Have easy class promotion quest and get access to the best damaging sorcerer spells at level 7. Everyone can bail out and cast time distortion and fly to temple if combat is too difficult.

 

[TheDeveloperDude]

M&M2 Gates to another world

I want a clerics-sorcerers only party.

6 Archers easiest party to play. They can shoot from any position, bows do more damage than a knights melee weapon. Have easy class promotion quest and get access to the best damaging sorcerer spells at level 7. Everyone can bail out and cast time distortion and fly to temple if combat is too difficult.

Do I need melee weapons for the archers? Or will they use bows all time?
Can I use 1 paladin for healing? Or then I cannot bail out from fights because of him?

 

[madrigal]

M&M2 Gates to another world

I want a clerics-sorcerers only party.

6 Archers easiest party to play. They can shoot from any position, bows do more damage than a knights melee weapon. Have easy class promotion quest and get access to the best damaging sorcerer spells at level 7. Everyone can bail out and cast time distortion and fly to temple if combat is too difficult.

Do I need melee weapons for the archers? Or will they use bows all time?
Can I use 1 paladin for healing? Or then I cannot bail out from fights because of him?

Bows are the number 1 option but if you have a better weapon you can use instead. If they have stat bonuses it makes sense to equip both even if you only use bow. You can rock any party you want, paladins don't restrict you, just archer/sorc have additional benefit of being able to cast time distortion. Never really found healers to be that useful apart from 1 optional fight, healing can be done by items, herbal patches are cheap to buy.

The thing is there is no negative hit points so if a monster can knock you out in one hit, using a herbal patch for a small heal or a stronger heal from a cleric makes no difference, some of the higher level cleric spells like moon ray or divine intervention can be useful but by the time you have reached that level you will probably have found divine or moon items you can use.

High level archers can also cast the duplicate spell, so you can share all the good items you find and not worry about running out of charges.

 

[Snorkack]

It's that time of the year again, I'm itching for another playthru of MM6.
What's current year's favourite way of enjoying this Gem on a Windows 10 machine? Still Gog version + Greyface patch, or is it worth checking out that merger mod I heard about? Would the latter also require owning 7 and 8?

 

[zapotec]

You need the 8 one to play it

 

[Replicante]

so I'm playing WoX for the 1st time (gog version) and it works fine with a scaler and ddraw output so I can resize the window, but the game freezes every time I load a game while in game. So It works to an extent but I got to restart dosbox everytime I go for a reload. Has anyone here experienced such odd behaviour?
pd: actually it crashes when leaving a NPC interaction or shop. It works fine if I disable sound blaster emulation in DOsbox config, but I get no sound that way. Tehre must be another sound option that avoids crashes, but can't quite figure it out since I'm not familiar with dosbox or this period's sound setups
edit:resorted to installing SCUmVM modern emulator. It's pretty seamless and streamlined. Problem is savegames are not compatible so I have to restart. I had a nice level 12 party but oh well!

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

GOG's anti-save scum. Freezing sheesh.

 

[Replicante]

I have to say it works wonderfully with ScumVM, frames are smooth and loading and saving itnerface is instant. Beyond happy I had that issue so I discovered this project. A blessing in disguise indeed. I put playing this one for so long but I'm having a blast with this carefully and lovely designed exploration and leveling. Can anyone give me some advice as to when to jump into Dark side so I don't make the game too easy overall? I'm about to venture into the Yak temple with lvl 10 chars atm, doing well with a Ba/Pa/Pa/Ni/Ar/Ar party, that hybrid playstyle with SP fountains is even better than my first party with the GoG Dosbox : D

Also, how strong are spells casted from items rather than actual spellcasters? My Barbarian using Wand of Daily protection casts such a spell with double the bonuses of my regultar paladin caster. Are spells from items casted at max level or what?

 

[Butter]

I have to say it works wonderfully with ScumVM, frames are smooth and loading and saving itnerface is instant. Beyond happy I had that issue so I discovered this project. A blessing in disguise indeed. I put playing this one for so long but I'm having a blast with this carefully and lovely designed exploration and leveling. Can anyone give me some advice as to when to jump into Dark side so I don't make the game too easy overall? I'm about to venture into the Yak temple with lvl 10 chars atm, doing well with a Ba/Pa/Pa/Ni/Ar/Ar party, that hybrid playstyle with SP fountains is even better than my first party with the GoG Dosbox : D

Darkside is intended for a party that's already completed Clouds. You should be able to handle the starting area if you go there now.

 

[Sceptic]

Everything on Darkside gives you a ton more XP. Finishing Cloudside first will make early Darkside too easy but it'll equalize quickly. Doing even a little bit of Darkside first could trivialize the entirety of Cloudside. I recommend finishing all or most of Cloudside first, but if you start going to Darkside now and don't stay there too long (eg just doing Castleview) you should be fine.

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

It has been so long on this one, I forget how I first hit Darkside. It wasn't Shangri-la was it? Bah!

Wait! If i recall, pyramid somethings. No, Dragon pharoah is on dark. W/e. Apparantly, I need to revisit these games.

 

[Baron Dupek]

and they say the modern gamers can't handle old games... most of them who said that probably joined dark side of Rim Sky long ago

 

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Jun 8, 2023: Journey Now Into an Age of Chivalry in an Alternate Reality

A stalwart party exploring the unknown, seeking the fabled Inner Sanctum. But all is not what it seems in the world of Varn...

The ScummVM Team is pleased to announce full support for the PC version of the first game of the Might and Magic series: Might and Magic Book One: The Secret of the Inner Sanctum. Two modes are supported:

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• A ScummVM-exclusive enhanced mode, which uses the interface of the later Xeen games, including niceties such as better character screens, automapping, and sound effects. It also integrates the impressive "Might and Magic 1 Graphics Overhaul Mod", which provides better in-game map and monster graphics. The xeen.cc file is required from Might and Magic: IV or Might and Magic: World of Xeen.

Both modes allow saving your game anywhere outside of combat via the ScummVM Global Main Menu (unlike the original game that only saved a single roster when checking into an inn). So make sure you save regularly, just in case you encounter problems.

Help us test both game modes by grabbing a daily build and adding mm.dat to the same folder as your game files. Read through our testing guidelines, and please take some screenshots along the way.

Now, go forth, and discover the true secrets of the game that started the long running epic fantasy series!