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Might and Magic The Might and Magic Discussion Thread

What is the best Might & Magic game in the series?

  • Might and Magic: Book I

    Votes: 17 2.3%
  • Might and Magic II: Gates to Another World

    Votes: 29 3.9%
  • Might and Magic III: Isles of Terra

    Votes: 59 7.9%
  • Might and Magic: World of Xeen

    Votes: 183 24.5%
  • Might and Magic: Swords of Xeen

    Votes: 5 0.7%
  • Might and Magic VI: The Mandate of Heaven

    Votes: 215 28.7%
  • Might and Magic VII: For Blood and Honor

    Votes: 130 17.4%
  • Might and Magic VIII: Day of the Destroyer

    Votes: 26 3.5%
  • Might and Magic IX

    Votes: 11 1.5%
  • Might and Magic X

    Votes: 73 9.8%

  • Total voters
    748

Sceptic

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Well, it sure as hell didn't work optimally when I played the DOS version of MM2. Are you sure you defeated the MM2 Mega Dragon and not one from another game?
There's a bit of confusion about which Megadragon is which, eg Tweed is talking about the MM5 one, which is actually not that hard. He just needs some patience and luck, the only real danger if you buff properly is his insta-eradicate, IIRC it takes about 6 rounds of bashing him to bring him down, though it took me some save-scumming to do it. MM2 Megadragon is a completely different story, this one would require a LOT more patience (and probably a lot more luck) due to the reasons you mentioned. I know it's mechanically doable and IIRC someone has done it and recorded it, but I never bothered.
 

Ryzer

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How do I level up?

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I googled. It says there's some training grounds? I can't level up on the starting island? I'm playing MM7 through MMmerge.
Check out the houses, you'll find a house specializing in training. You'll see this by the FMV.
 
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How does tanking work?

I have two tanks. But if they get hit as regularly as my squishies, then there's not much reason for the "tanks" to have all that armor class. It'll be wasted.

Is this correct?
 

Butter

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There's no front row/back row distinction after Might and Magic 2. Knights are good because they deal damage without spending spell points.
 
Vatnik
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I have a thief in MM7 who's got dark elf magic due to MMmerge (why? she doesn't have a dark elf portrait). I'd like to be able to cast it, but my thief has no spell points. How do I fix it? Is it because of her stats? She's got 14 int.
 
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lukaszek

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As the Thief gets his first promotion quest done, it should get some mana.

Other than that, you could edit the Clas HP SP file located in your <game folder>\Data\Tables
you gain access to those tables in merge mod for free or need to extract them like with grayface?
 

Storyfag

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As the Thief gets his first promotion quest done, it should get some mana.

Other than that, you could edit the Clas HP SP file located in your <game folder>\Data\Tables
you gain access to those tables in merge mod for free or need to extract them like with grayface?
Free access. Or at least I don't recall doing any extracting. My memory can be funny tho.
 
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I'm in Barrows Down maze and every chest that I touch with my thief explodes. The thief is at 4 Perception 4 Disarm Trap, both Expert. What does this game want from me? Any higher level areas I go to, obviously the same thing happens.
 

Daemongar

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Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.
I'm in Barrows Down maze and every chest that I touch with my thief explodes. The thief is at 4 Perception 4 Disarm Trap, both Expert. What does this game want from me? Any higher level areas I go to, obviously the same thing happens.
You can always come back. That is, set a Lloyd's Beacon or use Town Portal to get out, level up, and return. Or, as I seem to recall, just walk out and go to the closest city, then come back.
 

Varnaan

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I don't know if I'm turning into a popamole retard but I recently replayed World of Xeen and it feels so incredibly dumb and cheesy to use fountains and daily buff spells.
I feel dirty just thinking about Lloyd Beaconing my way to fountains.
 

0sacred

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I'm in Barrows Down maze and every chest that I touch with my thief explodes. The thief is at 4 Perception 4 Disarm Trap, both Expert. What does this game want from me? Any higher level areas I go to, obviously the same thing happens.

If you have a thief you might want to pick up the NPC that gives +8 to disarm and stealing.
 
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I'm playing with this interface and some Quixote dude said he's joining me to go see me slay a dragon in Talalia. I don't want to go there just yet, I'm not nearly done here with other stuff.

For the life of me I can't find where he is in any UI.

What the fuck, where is he?

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BelgarathMTH

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Bester , Down in the lower right corner, just above your mini-map, there is a little square with a silhouette of a head. Click that, and it will bring up a menu that shows you NPC's that are in your party. In the case of quest escorts, you will sometimes have to click on one to turn in the quest.

You can keep Quixote there until you're ready to do the quest. He won't go anywhere and he doesn't do anything. That quest is important if you have a paladin, though. There will be a quest for your sorcerer promotion where you assemble a golem, and the golem will be in that same interface; you have to click on it to finish the sorcerer promotion quest.

For the merge, you are allowed to put up to 4 NPC's into the NPC interface, and many of them give passive bonuses, like for example, a scholar can identify all items automatically so your sorcerer doesn't have to spend skill points on Identify. The merge allows you to fill all four slots with passive bonus NPC's, but then you wouldn't have room for important quest escorts, so I think it's a good idea to always keep two slots open for the quest NPC's you'll encounter.
 

madrigal

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Use Mass Distortion vs. mega dragon, each one will half his remaining HP.
That's a nice theory, but in practice his magic resistance makes it more like 5% or something, so it takes ages to cut him down to portion sized dragon steaks.
I defeated the mm2 Mega Dragon, 8 clerics with mass distortion and implosion items when spell points exhausted. Divine intervention for healing. Fair slog, but doable with a tailored party.
 
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My reputation was initially green and somewhere in the 70s. Then it became 1. Now it's 0 and white and nobody even wants to promote my classes because I'm not "good". How did that happen?
 
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I'm saving the dwarves from the mines. Found two - they immediately jumped into my NPC slots. But I have 2 slots already filled with other NPCs and only 4 slots in total, so what do I do for the other dwarves in the mines?
I went outside the mines and tried interacting, hoping that I'd be able to let them go here. But they just thank me and stay with the party.
What must I do?

This game makes me feel stupid as fuck because of these questions.
 

Ryzer

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My reputation was initially green and somewhere in the 70s. Then it became 1. Now it's 0 and white and nobody even wants to promote my classes because I'm not "good". How did that happen?
Did you join a forbidden guild? or completed a quest for them?
Did you interact with a house full of people on black hood?
Did you kill someone by inadvertance?
 
Vatnik
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My reputation was initially green and somewhere in the 70s. Then it became 1. Now it's 0 and white and nobody even wants to promote my classes because I'm not "good". How did that happen?
Did you join a forbidden guild? or completed a quest for them?
Did you interact with a house full of people on black hood?
Did you kill someone by inadvertance?
No. I open chests in towns all the time though, does it count as stealing?
How much rep do I need now to become "good" again?
 
Vatnik
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I googled magic lamps and got a calendar. Used all 3 lamps on October 25 (Thursday). Two characters got poisoned, third one got a magic cutlass.
What I expected: 8 skill points for each lamp.
Wtf?
 

lukaszek

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My reputation was initially green and somewhere in the 70s. Then it became 1. Now it's 0 and white and nobody even wants to promote my classes because I'm not "good". How did that happen?
mm7? a bunch of quests lower reputation, desecrating tombs... list is long and in the end it doesnt matter

How much rep do I need now to become "good" again?
dunno, just donate gold to temple
 

Tweed

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Someone was asking about this before, but what's the best way to play M&M 6/7/8 these days? I know about Greyface patches, but I don't know anything about the modded games or the merge.
 

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