The New DOOM Thread (2016)

[DraQ]

https://twitter.com/RatCasket/status/610478646499766273

Much better, but still not quite DOOM.

Why haven't developers learned from 9 years of Xbox 360 development that graybrown filters, motion blur and other modern "visual enhancements" look like shit?

You don't need filters. Q2 already had this look thanks to innovative "puke lighting" technology.

 

[taxalot]

That's the thing, really. Doom doesn't need ANY kind of visual enhancement. It looks still good enough, hence, Doom doesn't need Doom 4.
This game is absolutely unecessary. It's not an "update" on Doom. It's not going to replace it in anyway, like F1 2015 replaces F1 2014. It's pointless.

 

[Excidium II]

It's hard to be upset because doom cubed already happened

 

[T. Reich]

I bet less than 1% of those who will purchase D00M 4 ever played Doom or Doom 2.

Well, DUH. It's a Bethesda game we're talking about. Replace "Doom" with "Fallout", or "D4" with "Oblivion/Skyrim" and "D1/2" with "Arena/Daggerfall", and you will see the pattern emerging.

 

[Lyric Suite]

https://twitter.com/RatCasket/status/610478646499766273

Why haven't developers learned from 9 years of Xbox 360 development that graybrown filters, motion blur and other modern "visual enhancements" look like shit?

Why would they learn that, and from Xbox 360 development to boot?

Just the other day i was fiddling around those Doom 3 mods to see what they were about. Out of curiosity i downloaded this shit because it basically merges all the notable mods into one single package:

http://www.moddb.com/mods/absolutehd/downloads/doom-3-absolute-hd-16

And sure enough, everything ended up looking like absolute shit. There's no avoiding the decline because the vast majority of gamers themselves are fucking retarded.

 

[theSavant]

Much better, but still not quite DOOM.

better now?

 

[T. Reich]

Much better, but still not quite DOOM.

better now?

Amateur. Here's what was missing:

 

[theSavant]

You should have added the pixelized HUD to the pixelized image, my dear amateur bro'. Pixelized+NonPixelized does not fit

 

[Lyric Suite]

Here, i fixed it for you:

 

[A user named cat]

 

[T. Reich]

You should have added the pixelized HUD to the pixelized image, my dear amateur bro'. Pixelized+NonPixelized does not fit

Nah.
1. The modern Doom remake will obviosuly be a 3D remake.
2. You over-pixelised the pic anyway.

 

[theSavant]

Nah.
1. The modern Doom remake will obviosuly be a 3D remake.
2. You over-pixelised the pic anyway.

I don't get your point, when you clearly failed in your attempt to "correct" the picture (hint: aesthetics)

 

[DraQ]

You should have added the pixelized HUD to the pixelized image, my dear amateur bro'. Pixelized+NonPixelized does not fit

Nah.
1. The modern Doom remake will obviosuly be a 3D remake.
2. You over-pixelised the pic anyway.

160x100 is the new 320x200, haven't you seen that new retro shit?

 

[racofer]

I predicted this years ago.

 

[Love]

I just noticed how accurately the Doomguy's face comments the jokes about your pictures.

 

[Jaesun]

I wonder if one could actually re-create the original DOOM levels in this new editor?

 

[Drax]

Better yet, recreate them in Bethbryo and put them in FO4

 

[T. Reich]

I wonder if one could actually re-create the original DOOM levels in this new editor?

Inb4 "The technology just isn't there yet".
Or it will simply play like shit, because, you know, NU-Doom.

 

[DraQ]

I wonder if one could actually re-create the original DOOM levels in this new editor?

It looks based on large predefined building blocks like pre-built rooms and corridors placed on a grid, which you can further dress up with all sorts of clutter, so my guess is no.

DOOM engine, like any BSP based engine was based on arbitrarily shaped geometry decorated with textures, lighting and all sorts of doodads.
Making for example pentagram shaped room required just defining the sectors matching the desired shape with desired texturework. In DOOM 4 you only have premade rooms you can snap together in predefined ways so if none of them is pentagram shaped you're fucked.
You would have better chances of pulling this sort of level design in Skyrim Creation Kit because while still block based it has been designed to allow more organic design accommodating non-discrete bends and including pieces to cover up holes and overlaps caused by going off grid or building different parts of given locations on non-matching grids.

Still, in neither will you be able to build non-euclidean mindfucks and truly arbitrary geometry you could in late BSP based engines and their respective toolsets.
In UT you could build a Tesseract or Poincare's Homology Sphere shaped map and the engine wouldn't give a single fuck in spite of it violating commonsensical geometry with chainsaw-lined dildo.

 

[udm]

The only good thing about Doom 3 is that its engine made the creation of the True Thief 4 possible.

 

[Luzur]

Other people use the term Popamole?

I thought the codex was a unique snowflake.

what if Anita is actually Roguey.

 

[Astral Rag]

 

[vonAchdorf]

News from the multiplayer

• weapon loadouts (3 premade classes "assault", "sniper", "ambusher", 2 free slots)
• no normal weapon pickups (only special weapons)
• unlocks

Doom multiplayer seems to have a great dual identity. It borrows the fun, arcade-like spirit from shooters like Perfect Dark and TimeSplitters and mixes it with the speed and gore of classic Quake. My teleporter example from above doesn’t exist in a vacuum. One special weapon sees through walls, which would probably be considered “OP” in most other shooters. Another weapon becomes more powerful the more you move, giving you a good reason to run and gun like a maniac.

The low contrast is really annoying.

 

[Astral Rag]

• weapon loadouts (3 premade classes "assault", "sniper", "ambusher", 2 free slots)
• no normal weapon pickups (only special weapons)
• unlocks

Doom multiplayer seems to have a great dual identity. It borrows the fun, arcade-like spirit from shooters like Perfect Dark and TimeSplitters and mixes it with the speed and gore of classic Quake. My teleporter example from above doesn’t exist in a vacuum. One special weapon sees through walls, which would probably be considered “OP” in most other shooters. Another weapon becomes more powerful the more you move, giving you a good reason to run and gun like a maniac.

 

[Great Deceiver]

doom

loadouts

does not compute