The New DOOM Thread (2016)

[Drax]

Shit has already leaked

http://www.esreality.com/post/2800202/doom-alpha-code-got-leaked/#pid2800229

You can play it already:
http://www.esreality.com/post/2800370/doom-alpha-download-link-works-now/




It's sooo slow

Cool, I'll give it a run.
Thanks.

 

[sexbad?]

40-45 FPS on a 4GB GTX 970. Still no graphics options, still stuttering mouse input, one new weapon.

 

[nil]

"We weren't happy with the game that was being made," he said of the decision to kill the project. "We decided that it wasn't Doom enough and needed to be thrown out and started over. Some folks left and some faces changed at the studio. Out of that change — which was not easy for those guys to go through — some amazing things happened."

The main issue was that the game didn't feel like Doom ... at all.

"You can probably close your eyes and imagine a 'Call of Doom' or a 'BattleDoom' game, where it starts to feel way too much like: 'Wait, this doesn't feel like Doom, it feels like we're playing some other franchise with a Doom skin on it,'" he said.

A little bit of leaked footage is available online, although it's being taken down when discovered. If this is related to the game as described by Hines, which makes sense, he's right: It doesn't look like anything that should have the Doom name.

Wow.

 

[Venser]

Wow.

The scrapped version really looked terrible. It's leaked soundtrack had a few pretty good pieces tho. I don't think they will appear in the new game tho.

 

[Morgoth]

I'd have played the scrapped Call of DOOM version over Retardo-Goofy-Plush-monster-DOOM any day of the week.

 

[Excidium II]

Even the announcer sounds bored in that mp video.

 

[Morgoth]

Played around a bit with the Alpha. Get 55-60 fps and screen tearing.

Game is total shit.

 

[sexbad?]

Wow.

The scrapped version really looked terrible. It's leaked soundtrack had a few pretty good pieces tho. I don't think they will appear in the new game tho.

What leaked soundtrack?

 

[Kingston]

And, as he earlier promised to show us, he’s flick-switching – id’s in-house term for the instinctual and nearly instantaneous swapping of weapons that players can pull off once they learn their way around the weapon wheel. A quick tap, a quick flick… and the weapon wheel never even appears.

There used to be a way of doing this in the old days. It was called number keys, I believe.

You’ll need all those weapons and mods to take on the assorted foes you’ll face. “It’s a hallmark of DOOM to have enemies that are effectively like chess pieces,” Stratton says about the different demons

Wat. In Doom you could clear most enemies with just the shotgun.

(That’s where Glory Kills come in; they’re not just a brutally fun finishing move, but they also cause enemies to drop more ammo and health.)

 

[Somberlain]

Naturally, DOOM does everything it can to keep the player moving.

Like those cinematic takedowns? This is a game that will have console kids and popamolers acting like they know what old-school shooters are all about. Because they played nuDoom that didn't even have reloading!!

 

[DosBuster]

lol are we forgetting that controllers dont have 9 number keys? pc version will have the normal number key system.

anyways, im guessing this will be id's last game, the years of fucked up development this game went through caused zenimax to threaten id with "get this game out by this date or else the only thing you'll be developing is id tech" and unless zenimax wants to pull out quake im guessing after this id will solely develop id tech for zenimax games.

 

[Lyric Suite]

ID haven't made anything worthwhile since Quake 3 so good riddance at this point, but it still sucks to see yet another classic company bite the dust.

 

[nil]

To make sure the action never stops, the team made invincibility always enabled (hardcore fans on PC shouldn't worry though, the producer assured me a simple ini edit should be enough to disable it - he said fans will now what 5 letters to look for, beware however, as doing this will disable achievements).
Now, while this means the player can never die, it doesn't mean he can't take damage! The more damage you take, the more red the screen becomes, and the slower you move - you can get as slow as 50% of the default speed!.
This makes it so that the classic element of trying to avoid damage is still there, but you won't have to worry about about it too much, allowing you to focus on the killing instead!

 

[Infinitron]

TBF, I don't really remember having to "save rockets" so much in the original games. It's not like modern "realistic" shooters where the rocket launcher is a weapon you only use in helicopter boss fights or something.

 

[Sodafish]

And, as he earlier promised to show us, he’s flick-switching – id’s in-house term for the instinctual and nearly instantaneous swapping of weapons that players can pull off once they learn their way around the weapon wheel. A quick tap, a quick flick… and the weapon wheel never even appears. “It makes you feel super slick when you’re doing it,” Martin smiles. “You’re just flick-switching between weapons and you’re like…” Martin pauses to make some rapid-fire pew-pew-pew sound effects. We get the point.

That's some hardcore shit, men.

 

[GrainWetski]

Never could've imagined id would be the ones to put the final nail in the coffin of the FPS genre. Not that it's surprising after Doom 3 and Rage.

"flick-switching"

They have their own word for using gamepads in FPS. How fucking far can you fall? I can only hope that every person that has said it is already dead.

 

[Drax]

To make sure the action never stops, the team made invincibility always enabled (hardcore fans on PC shouldn't worry though, the producer assured me a simple ini edit should be enough to disable it - he said fans will now what 5 letters to look for, beware however, as doing this will disable achievements).
Now, while this means the player can never die, it doesn't mean he can't take damage! The more damage you take, the more red the screen becomes, and the slower you move - you can get as slow as 50% of the default speed!.
This makes it so that the classic element of trying to avoid damage is still there, but you won't have to worry about about it too much, allowing you to focus on the killing instead!

wat

 

[Baron Dupek]

In the good ol' days achievements were awards for difficulty tasks and disabled if you ever try to cheat.

 

[DraQ]

ID haven't made anything worthwhile since Quake 1 so good riddance at this point, but it still sucks to see yet another classic company bite the dust.

Fixed.

 

[Akratus]

It will sell relatively well, mostly on name. And after it's release we'll slowly hear less and less of it. And then suddenly at a certain point we'll get an article on ID layoffs, and in the end ID will be gone, but few will care. That's my prediction.

 

[pippin]

It will sell relatively well, mostly on name. And after it's release we'll slowly hear less and less of it. And then suddenly at a certain point we'll get an article on ID layoffs, and in the end ID will be gone, but few will care. That's my prediction.

That's mostly what's happening with every video game company right now. Although if Rage didn't killed them this game won't, unless it's atrociously bad for AAA standards.

 

[Alienman]

Everything about it just feels lame. LAME!

The whole PR old-school shit, when the stuff isn't.

 

[ultimanecat]

As promised, he's up-holding, id's hyper-technical in-house term for the instinctual, nearly instantaneous use of a joystick to move forward once players have spent significant time learning their way around the game. He also tells me that some of the hardcore PC testers have gone a step further, mastering "w-stepping" and thus exploiting movement options even the designers didn't consider.

"It makes you feel super-slick to press a thing to make your man do something... you're just up-holding and moving forward and things start going crazy."

 

[Ninja Destroyer]

Anything done in metal after 1990 (or by bands formed after 1990 for that matter) is p. bad though, so that art direction was goin to die anyway, just like metal.

Not sure if serious.

Wat. In Doom you could clear most enemies with just the shotgun.

He is right about using all the weapons to your advantage. Super shotgun is a powerful upgrade compared to the old one, but when you have a big pack of barons of cacodaemons you don't play duckhunt but want to kill them as quickly as you can. Because there is too much projectiles shooting your ass and legs to survive in tighter spaces. Not to mention the BFG which is a ultimate cleaner of rooms. Machine gun is good for scan hitters in lower numbers and imps. And good luck soloing Revenants in 4 packs or bigger groups with shotgun.

 

[DraQ]

flick-switching

*flick-switches finger*
Like this?

Wat. In Doom you could clear most enemies with just the shotgun.

He is right about using all the weapons to your advantage. Super shotgun is a powerful upgrade compared to the old one, but when you have a big pack of barons of cacodaemons you don't play duckhunt but want to kill them as quickly as you can. Because there is too much projectiles shooting your ass and legs to survive in tighter spaces. Not to mention the BFG which is a ultimate cleaner of rooms. Machine gun is good for scan hitters in lower numbers and imps. And good luck soloing Revenants in 4 packs or bigger groups with shotgun.

SG was your workhorse weapon most of the time, though.

Economical, good burst damage, decent range, hitscan and some multi-target capability.
Unless you had a large group of powerful enemies right in your face, or a whole massive swarm of weaker ones (most of the time you didn't, at least when playing somewhat carefully), SG was usually up to the task and could perform it more or less optimally.
Maybe it changed in custom wads but I know how I played basic DOOM1&2.

Sure, chainsawing or chaingunning tomatoes exploited their high pain chance better, SSG was just perfect for dispatching pinkies that were right in your face, RL/BFG were more effective against clusters of weaker foes and dealt more burst damage to single powerful targets, but all in all you couldn't go wrong with plain old SG.