The Outer Worlds Pre-Release Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[GentlemanCthulhu]

Wow every time i see a mention of this fucking game i'm reminded of the DIVERSE companions and can't help but get excited for the moment i put a bullet in their heads. If this game fails to deliver on that then help me god.

And somehow you love greedfall ... exemplifying the mental prowess of an avocado.

Now now, there's not reason to be an absolute fucktard. I never said I "love" that game.

walks like a duck, talks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a fanboi.

I fanboy for your mother's asshole.

 

[fantadomat]

Wow every time i see a mention of this fucking game i'm reminded of the DIVERSE companions and can't help but get excited for the moment i put a bullet in their heads. If this game fails to deliver on that then help me god.

And somehow you love greedfall ... exemplifying the mental prowess of an avocado.

And you still whine about the game,even without playing it. Even avocado is smarter than you lol.

 

[fantadomat]

I don't think is hard to understand that people that are excited for this are looking for something like FNV but actually funtions, don't break itself every 5 seconds and the gunplay is trash without mods.

These people are then covered on the trash combat front. Indeed it will be trash. Only there won't be mods.

At least it will be fun on the codex.

 

[toro]

Wow every time i see a mention of this fucking game i'm reminded of the DIVERSE companions and can't help but get excited for the moment i put a bullet in their heads. If this game fails to deliver on that then help me god.

And somehow you love greedfall ... exemplifying the mental prowess of an avocado.

And you still whine about the game,even without playing it. Even avocado is smarter than you lol.

the bulgarian is up. hide your wifes, hide your kids and your good games

 

[fantadomat]

Wow every time i see a mention of this fucking game i'm reminded of the DIVERSE companions and can't help but get excited for the moment i put a bullet in their heads. If this game fails to deliver on that then help me god.

And somehow you love greedfall ... exemplifying the mental prowess of an avocado.

And you still whine about the game,even without playing it. Even avocado is smarter than you lol.

the bulgarian is up. hide your wifes, hide your kids and your good games

With this one i do agree. Also hide your money!



I see that you are actually smarter than avocado.

 

[Pegultagol]

One thing I did notice that I didn't before in the last video was the enemies sometimes cower and run off...I guess promising for a non-lethal run on Supernova! I wonder if all the numbers and attributes for weapons are necessary, but with location based damage and status effects, it seems to at least promise that trash mob experience(tm) will not be so one-note a decimation. I think it is on par with Fallout 4 in terms of combat, which is not saying much but something I can actually play and be entertained without bouts of nausea or (╯‵□′)╯︵┻━┻ .

The fact the last few videos were all captures from a PS4 (probably Pro) makes me hopeful that the game will run OK in 1080p on mid range hardware, and with some custom sharpening applied will be viable 60fps on 1440p screens and above with good details.

Strange that the usage of companion's special ability seems way down in recent previews. Perhaps journos couldn't figure out how to use it but I think it improves things combat-side a lot. I recall with Nyoka (?) and another companion it was a traveling disco light show before.

The same location of power plant (?) in Edgewater is now shown both during night and day. It isn't a night and day difference, but still appreciated.

I kinda wish the npcs 'turn' their heads if not their gaze as in acknowledging you with a gun in hand when you go near them, but oh well. Someone mentioned that the game is more or less isometric transplanted in first person and this reminded me of that.

So the game will go gold in a few weeks...and as more and more footage will be available, if what I see right now is representative of the rest of the game...I dunno, I think the game will please many folks? Of course they've shown Monarch before once and it was the weakest presentation yet, so the jury is still out.

 

[Grauken]

The game will be fine. Thankfully Obsidian has no history of releasing bug-ridden messes

 

[Quillon]

Strange that the usage of companion's special ability seems way down in recent previews. Perhaps journos couldn't figure out how to use it but I think it improves things combat-side a lot. I recall with Nyoka (?) and another companion it was a traveling disco light show before.

If they haven't made them play out real time/out of cutscenes they'll deserve the trashing.

 

[Goral]

Wow every time i see a mention of this fucking game i'm reminded of the DIVERSE companions and can't help but get excited for the moment i put a bullet in their heads. If this game fails to deliver on that then help me god.

And somehow you love greedfall ... exemplifying the mental prowess of an avocado.

Now now, there's not reason to be an absolute fucktard. I never said I "love" that game.

walks like a duck, talks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a fanboi.

Says one of the biggest UR fanboys :D.

 

[Ismaul]

Maybe everyone looks the same to escape facial recognition AI. Everyone in the otter worlds look like a dude from earth, and he's always getting his shit kicked in by gook cops for their crimes.

holy shit
the reason chinese all look the same suddenly makes so much sense

In the grim dark future there is only one face:

 

[Roguey]

The game will be fine. Thankfully Obsidian has no history of releasing bug-ridden messes

I'm looking forward to calling Tim and Leonard the Delusional Duo if my expectations are met.

 

[Vorark]

Can you lower the pistol when you are in a friendly settlement?

Bummer you can only lower the gun, wish you could also holster it.

 

[jf8350143]

So I just see someone claim that borderlands 3 is going to be more fun than a proper RPG, here on codex.

When did this turns to the "trigger the codex with a statement" thread?

 

[Quillon]

Can you lower the pistol when you are in a friendly settlement?

Bummer you can only lower the gun, wish you could also holster it.

Wut? The gun goes away visually so we assume its holstered. When is it "lowered"?

 

[Danikas]

The game will be fine. Thankfully Obsidian has no history of releasing bug-ridden messes

or games that had major parts of storyline cut out to hit launch date

 

[HarveyBirdman]

An event like Lockpicking 4/5 is the best example of this. Even if the door was locked, we should have had a chance to try.

Bloodlines did it the same and nobody ever complained! In fact it's more RPG that you can't bypass your stats just because you are good at mini-games...

Is it though?
I'm terrible at picking locks. But if you sit me down in front of a lock with a bobby pin and paper clip, I can eventually pick the lock. In fact I have done just that, though it took me like 20 minutes.

I understand not wanting to spend time and money on making a good lockpicking minigame, but RPG != complete inability to figure stuff out because of stat investments.
Dice rolls abstract your ability to eventually get something right with minimal acumen.
Difficult mini-games that become significantly less difficult with the right investment simulate the same thing.
When done well, I think simulation is much more satisfying than dice rolls. Both are better than making you go full retard based on a spreadsheet, which is why most RPGs use one of those two approaches.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

An event like Lockpicking 4/5 is the best example of this. Even if the door was locked, we should have had a chance to try.

Bloodlines did it the same and nobody ever complained! In fact it's more RPG that you can't bypass your stats just because you are good at mini-games...

Is it though?
I'm terrible at picking locks. But if you sit me down in front of a lock with a bobby pin and paper clip, I can eventually pick the lock. In fact I have done just that, though it took me like 20 minutes.

I understand not wanting to spend time and money on making a good lockpicking minigame, but RPG != complete inability to figure stuff out because of stat investments.
Dice rolls abstract your ability to eventually get something right with minimal acumen.
Difficult mini-games that become significantly less difficult with the right investment simulate the same thing.
When done well, I think simulation is much more satisfying than dice rolls.

Most locks that aren't pick-resistant can just be bypassed in a few seconds using a credit card. It's one of the few hollywood tropes that works exactly like shown.
Only thing I trust are one-sided deadbolts

 

[Grauken]

More content should be locked behind hard checks. You didn't invest in the right stats, tough luck

 

[Wunderbar]

The game will be fine. Thankfully Obsidian has no history of releasing bug-ridden messes

not to mention that they still have more than a year to fix the game.

 

[Vorark]

Can you lower the pistol when you are in a friendly settlement?

Bummer you can only lower the gun, wish you could also holster it.

Wut? The gun goes away visually so we assume its holstered. When is it "lowered"?

Oh, good news then. The little footage I've seen usually showed the PC always pointing a pistol when walking around or at most just lowering it when getting near to an npc, so I assumed it wouldn't be possible to holster it.

 

[Roguey]

Is it though?
I'm terrible at picking locks. But if you sit me down in front of a lock with a bobby pin and paper clip, I can eventually pick the lock. In fact I have done just that, though it took me like 20 minutes.

I understand not wanting to spend time and money on making a good lockpicking minigame, but RPG != complete inability to figure stuff out because of stat investments.
Dice rolls abstract your ability to eventually get something right with minimal acumen.
Difficult mini-games that become significantly less difficult with the right investment simulate the same thing.
When done well, I think simulation is much more satisfying than dice rolls. Both are better than making you go full retard based on a spreadsheet, which is why most RPGs use one of those two approaches.

In a game where you can pick a lock with 0 skill but it's going to take you 20 minutes to do it, hardly anyone's going to put points into lockpicking and they're going to endure the timesink while also complaining about it (and probably modding it so the time it takes is 0, see Wasteland 2's terrible timers)

I like the PoE approach of lockpick consumables where if you're one level below you have to spend three lockpicks, but it's impossible if you're anywhere below that.

 

[Prime Junta]

I'm able to pick very simple locks as well.

But I sure as hell couldn't pick a reasonably well-made lock. Not without a manual and a lot of practice... i.e., upgrading my lockpicking skill.

I'm also sure I couldn't have figured out how to pick even a very simple lock without instructions and a certain amount of practice... i.e., putting a single point in lockpicking.

tl;dr skill threshold based lockpicking in RPGs is fine

just fine

 

[Dishonoredbr]

Hard checks for everything are way better than put some minigame like in 3D Fallouts or worse , Elder Scrolls. The less of those awful hacking minigames (Deus Ex , Fallout , AP etc) in my life , the better.
Plus you don't waste resources and time with trash minigames that can be save scumed thought.

 

[Zombra]

This will be an unpopular opinion, and I may be saying this out loud for the first time:

Minigames can be a good thing.

If made in a way that is actually enjoyable, they can be a nice break in the pacing of endless conversations or button mashing combat. They particularly make sense in a real time RPG, where player skill is already being tested. Why should combat be the only thing the player actually interacts in?

The trick is making them fun, which can't be easy, depending on what kind of game it is. A person who likes first-person shooter hybrid RPGs isn't necessarily going to enjoy your milkmaid minigame. Most likely some will and some won't. So the tendency will be to pander to the LCD. But of course there are prestigious players who will hate that too. I guess for most studios it's best to avoid them - when in doubt, leave it out. I just hate to see people implying designers should never try to have more than one activity in a game.

 

[biggestboss]

I like minigames like Wizardry 6/7/8's lockpicking and trap disabling, but I can see how they seem pointless in the face of save scumming. I'd love to see it coupled with something like the Drama Stars system in Frayed Knights where you lose a possibly valuable resource when manually loading a save.