The Outer Worlds Pre-Release Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Roguey]

A reference to rat diplomacy you say? Classic Codex Content http://www.rpgcodex.net/gallery/7344.gif

 

[Dishonoredbr]

It's a fucking rat and you're not even indoors, just walk past it.

What if the rat has a quest?

 

[Quillon]

It's a fucking rat and you're not even indoors, just walk past it.

I'd personally just run the hell away

Small and fast things are scary af

It's a fucking rat and you're not even indoors, just walk past it.

What if the rat has a quest?

What if it has a quest to latch on your back/get under your clothes, ha?

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

1. Attempt to sneak past it.

Rat: I can smell you from a mile away.

2. Try to talk to it.

Nick: Hello there
Rat: Disappointment, thy name is Pillars of Eternity.
Nick: Are you Darth Roxor?
Rat: Perhaps.

3. Draw your weapon

Rat: Deadfire was ok though.

3. Holster your weapon

2. Try to talk to it.

Rat: So what are you doing in my game?
Nick: Former owners always become NPCs.
Rat: Can I have some phat loot?
Rat: I can make it worth your while.
Rat. *winks*.

3. Draw your weapon.

Rat: No homo.

 

[Neanderthal]

1. Attempt to sneak past it.

Rat: I can smell you from a mile away.

2. Try to talk to it.

Nick: Hello there
Rat: Disappointment, thy name is Pillars of Eternity.
Nick: Are you Darth Roxor?
Rat: Perhaps.

3. Draw your weapon

Rat: Deadfire was ok though.

3. Holster your weapon

2. Try to talk to it.

Rat: So what are you doing in my game?
Nick: Former owners always become NPCs.
Rat: Can I have some phat loot?
Rat: I can make it worth your while.
Rat. *winks*.

3. Draw your weapon.

Rat: No homo.

Slowly work your hand up and down the shaft of your weapon, nod and grin.

Roll to save versus poison, Rohypnol.

 

[DalekFlay]

Three days before release day. A sign of confidence in the game's quality.

Cynical Codex is cynical, but it's a good sign it's not completely broken at release at least.

 

[AwesomeButton]

I wonder if he will eventually grasp the irony of bitching about bad graphics and lack of innovation, and doing it on a forum that worships pixelated games build around 40-year old gameplay concepts.

Are you just pretending to be dumb? This game is not a throwback and is first person. Graphics shortcomings are a legimitate complaint.

 

[Wunderbar]

I wonder if he will eventually grasp the irony of bitching about bad graphics and lack of innovation, and doing it on a forum that worships pixelated games build around 40-year old gameplay concepts.

Are you just pretending to be dumb? This game is not a throwback and is first person. Graphics shortcomings are a legimitate complaint.

not to mention that complaints are mostly about aesthetics.

 

[Dishonoredbr]

This game is not a throwback

Actually Tim considers a throwback RPG .. The more you know.

 

[AwesomeButton]

This game is not a throwback

Actually Tim considers a throwback RPG .. The more you know.

I know, but does it necessarily follow from ToW being a "New Vegas throwback" that it should deliberately copy select bad things about Gamebryo into a UE4 game?

 

[Zboj Lamignat]

I wonder if he will eventually grasp the irony of bitching about bad graphics and lack of innovation, and doing it on a forum that worships pixelated games build around 40-year old gameplay concepts.

Are you just pretending to be dumb? This game is not a throwback and is first person. Graphics shortcomings are a legimitate complaint.

Legitimate complaints are instantly rendered illegitimate if they also apply to other games, especially if they are old games that you happen to like for other reasons. This is the ultimate argument of intelligent people. Do you feel the irony melting your nervous system as you realize how ironic this all is? Now bow.

 

[Kem0sabe]

Gameplay looks garbage, from the graphics to the shooting mechanics to the oversized weapon blocking half the screen to the small number of dialogue choices. You know im not one to critize rpg's for being more action games, i love action adventure games, but this shit is just bad.

 

[Daedalos]

Can somebody find the quote, where Leonard and Tim explicitly state, how graphics and animation in Outer worlds are to be the pinnacle and defining vision goals for the project?

Thanks in advance!

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

Fun fact: a complaint can be legitimate and uninteresting at the same time.

 

[Zboj Lamignat]

Amazing! Can a codex post be uninteresting and stupid at the same time? This fact probably wouldn't be fun, but I feel like it might be possible.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

I wouldn't know, I'm the most interesting man in the world.

*sips beer*

 

[Trashos]

Potential lack of innovation is kinda important. What is the chance that creative people on a roll won't introduce innovations (even small ones) in their work? Not that big. That's, like, how such minds work.

Unless they are not on a roll.

 

[Kyl Von Kull]

Potential lack of innovation is kinda important. What is the chance that creative people on a roll won't introduce innovations (even small ones) in their work? Not that big. That's, like, how such minds work.

Unless they are not on a roll.

Troika wasn’t particularly innovative and they made fantastic stuff.

 

[Dishonoredbr]

The flaw system is fairly fresh or at least a re-imagionation/twist of the trait system if anything. Leadership is huge improvement over Charisma from FNV.

The game certainly has fresh ideas or fresh takes on old ideas. It certainly something that we can't graps at fullest without actually play the game. Only a handful of flaws was actually revealed for example.

 

[Trashos]

Troika wasn’t particularly innovative and they made fantastic stuff.

Arcanum was pretty innovative (character creation, crafting, some quest design etc-etc). For ToEE, innovation was already in the concept for the game (translating the rules and making them work in a cRPG). I don't know much about Bloodlines.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

Gamers: I want a game that is exactly like all my favorite games
Also gamers: but it has to be completely new and different

Never gets old.

 

[Trashos]

Hey, I am open to new ideas. Doesn't mean I will necessary accept them (for this they will have to be *good* ideas), but I am open.

 

[Duraframe300]

The flaw system is fairly fresh or at least a re-imagionation/twist of the trait system if anything. Leadership is huge improvement over Charisma from FNV.

The game certainly has fresh ideas or fresh takes on old ideas. It certainly something that we can't graps at fullest without actually play the game. Only a handful of flaws was actually revealed for example.

Also just the entire focus on specializing during the course of the game rather than at the start. The skill system is another example.

Regardless of what *innovative* things we'll see in the game, it's definitly not going to come anywhere close to Disco Elysium on that front, but imo it doesn't have to.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

A throwback AAA RPG is already a huge progress in an industry that spent the last 2 decades rolling back and dumbing down all of the innovation that came before. You gotta start somewhere.

 

[Cross]

Behold the incredibly deep RPG systems of The Outer Worlds:

I'm sure that whopping 3% increase in food effect duration will be a game changer during my playthrough.

Just as I suspected, all of Obsidian has now adopted the design philosophy of Pillars and Tyranny of making everything 'balanced'. Between this and their decision to painstakingly recreate the Bethbryo aesthetic, I'm not getting the impression this was a project Cain & Boyarsky had a strong creative role in despite the game being advertised with their names.