The Outer Worlds Pre-Release Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Trashos]

Hey, I am open to new ideas. Doesn't mean I will necessary accept them (for this they will have to be *good* ideas), but I am open.

 

[Duraframe300]

The flaw system is fairly fresh or at least a re-imagionation/twist of the trait system if anything. Leadership is huge improvement over Charisma from FNV.

The game certainly has fresh ideas or fresh takes on old ideas. It certainly something that we can't graps at fullest without actually play the game. Only a handful of flaws was actually revealed for example.

Also just the entire focus on specializing during the course of the game rather than at the start. The skill system is another example.

Regardless of what *innovative* things we'll see in the game, it's definitly not going to come anywhere close to Disco Elysium on that front, but imo it doesn't have to.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

A throwback AAA RPG is already a huge progress in an industry that spent the last 2 decades rolling back and dumbing down all of the innovation that came before. You gotta start somewhere.

 

[Cross]

Behold the incredibly deep RPG systems of The Outer Worlds:

I'm sure that whopping 3% increase in food effect duration will be a game changer during my playthrough.

Just as I suspected, all of Obsidian has now adopted the design philosophy of Pillars and Tyranny of making everything 'balanced'. Between this and their decision to painstakingly recreate the Bethbryo aesthetic, I'm not getting the impression this was a project Cain & Boyarsky had a strong creative role in despite the game being advertised with their names.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Behold the incredibly deep RPG systems of The Outer Worlds:

I'm sure that whopping 3% increase in food effect duration will be a game changer during my playthrough.

Just as I suspected, all of Obsidian has now adopted the design philosophy of Pillars and Tyranny of making everything 'balanced'. Between this and their decision to painstakingly recreate the Bethbryo aesthetic, I'm not getting the impression this was a project Cain & Boyarsky had a strong creative role in despite the game being advertised with their names.

"Balanced" or "illusion of choice", it's too early to tell which "design philosophy" it is.

 

[Duraframe300]

Behold the incredibly deep RPG systems of The Outer Worlds:

I'm sure that whopping 3% increase in food effect duration will be a game changer during my playthrough.

Just as I suspected, all of Obsidian has now adopted the design philosophy of Pillars and Tyranny of making everything 'balanced'. Between this and their decision to painstakingly recreate the Bethbryo aesthetic, I'm not getting the impression this was a project Cain & Boyarsky had a strong creative role in despite the game being advertised with their names.

Are you really pointing out the one thing, that was mentioned by a developer in the very same video as flavor?

The one thing already mentioned as such 7 months ago by Tim and Leonard because they had to scale back on them for budgetary reasons?

You are a desperate clown.

 

[Frusciante]

Went from pretty optimistic about this when it was announced to very pessimistic when I saw the first gameplay. Now really not sure, it could be a fun game if quests are interesting and you really have meaningful choices.

 

[Kyl Von Kull]

I'm sure that whopping 3% increase in food effect duration will be a game changer during my playthrough.

Just as I suspected, all of Obsidian has now adopted the design philosophy of Pillars and Tyranny of making everything 'balanced'. Between this and their decision to painstakingly recreate the Bethbryo aesthetic, I'm not getting the impression this was a project Cain & Boyarsky had a strong creative role in despite the game being advertised with their names.

Dude, those career aptitudes are there as a joke--it's what you were supposed to do for a living in the colony. The actual character creation is setting your six stats from 1-5 (below average to very high) and then choosing which skills to tag.

 

[Kyl Von Kull]

Troika wasn’t particularly innovative and they made fantastic stuff.

Arcanum was pretty innovative (character creation, crafting, some quest design etc-etc). For ToEE, innovation was already in the concept for the game (translating the rules and making them work in a cRPG). I don't know much about Bloodlines.

I loved Arcanum and it did some awesome things, but it wasn't so much innovative as it was an extrapolation of Tim, Leonard & Jason's earlier innovations from Fallout. Sort of Fallout squared.

 

[Quillon]

They explore the ship's cargo hold a bit in this, there is a respec machine.

 

[Cross]

Dude, those career aptitudes are there as a joke--it's what you were supposed to do for a living in the colony.

So what is the joke supposed to be? I don't remember the traits and backgrounds in Fallout and Arcanum being this useless.

 

[GentlemanCthulhu]

I'm gonna kill any NPC who has that iconic TOW hairstyle. The one on Ellie's head. That'll be a pillar of my character's RP. I already know the fucking ship AI has that same haircut. Would be pleasantly surprised if I can "turn her off".

 

[jf8350143]

If you want something different and innovative, you go play indie games. Mainstream games, even just a AA one instead of AAA one is not and never will be the birth place of some mind blown never done before style ideas.

That's just the nature of the mindset of the investors that put the money to make these games nowdays.

 

[GentlemanCthulhu]

If you want something different and innovative, you go play indie games. Mainstream games, even just a AA one instead of AAA one is not and never will be the birth place of some mind blown never done before style ideas.

Fallout was a AAA title.

 

[Quillon]

No one would be talking about innovation if this had top down tactical combat; there'd only be complaints about "innovations" then; like how different they are from what was in some 20 year old beloved game.

 

[ciox]

Behold the incredibly deep RPG systems of The Outer Worlds:

I'm sure that whopping 3% increase in food effect duration will be a game changer during my playthrough.

Just as I suspected, all of Obsidian has now adopted the design philosophy of Pillars and Tyranny of making everything 'balanced'. Between this and their decision to painstakingly recreate the Bethbryo aesthetic, I'm not getting the impression this was a project Cain & Boyarsky had a strong creative role in despite the game being advertised with their names.

They literaly said in the ign vídeo that aptitudes aren't meant to be important and was little buffs in purpose. Its more for the joke and perhaps encourages your to role playing but nothing major.

Yes, adding something like the trait system in Fallout but neutering it for less QA time is a very clever troll.

 

[Prime Junta]

Q&A

<autist>

it's QA, not Q&A

QA = Quality Assurance, Q & A = Questions and Answers

</autist>

 

[Duraframe300]

Yes, adding something like the trait system in Fallout but neutering it for less Q&A time is a very clever troll.

That is not the trait system equivalent for Outer Worlds. Flaws are. And there's a shitload of perks as well.

 

[Quillon]

Behold the incredibly deep RPG systems of The Outer Worlds:

I'm sure that whopping 3% increase in food effect duration will be a game changer during my playthrough.

Just as I suspected, all of Obsidian has now adopted the design philosophy of Pillars and Tyranny of making everything 'balanced'. Between this and their decision to painstakingly recreate the Bethbryo aesthetic, I'm not getting the impression this was a project Cain & Boyarsky had a strong creative role in despite the game being advertised with their names.

They literaly said in the ign vídeo that aptitudes aren't meant to be important and was little buffs in purpose. Its more for the joke and perhaps encourages your to role playing but nothing major.

Yes, adding something like the trait system in Fallout but neutering it for less Q&A time is a very clever troll.

They added flaws instead of traits. I think it required more QA time than traits would have.

 

[Dishonoredbr]

Yes, adding something like the trait system in Fallout but neutering it for less Q&A time is a very clever troll

They don't need the trait system when the flaw system exist and serve the same purpose. Pick something that gives you downside and upside.

 

[ciox]

Yes, adding something like the trait system in Fallout but neutering it for less Q&A time is a very clever troll

They don't need the trait system when the flaw system exist and serve the same purpose. Pick something that gives you downside and upside.

Behold the incredibly deep RPG systems of The Outer Worlds:

I'm sure that whopping 3% increase in food effect duration will be a game changer during my playthrough.

Just as I suspected, all of Obsidian has now adopted the design philosophy of Pillars and Tyranny of making everything 'balanced'. Between this and their decision to painstakingly recreate the Bethbryo aesthetic, I'm not getting the impression this was a project Cain & Boyarsky had a strong creative role in despite the game being advertised with their names.

They literaly said in the ign vídeo that aptitudes aren't meant to be important and was little buffs in purpose. Its more for the joke and perhaps encourages your to role playing but nothing major.

Yes, adding something like the trait system in Fallout but neutering it for less Q&A time is a very clever troll.

They added flaws instead of traits. I think it required more QA time than traits would have.

Yes, adding something like the trait system in Fallout but neutering it for less Q&A time is a very clever troll.

That is not the trait system equivalent for Outer Worlds. Flaws are. And there's a shitload of perks as well.

The vast majority of flaw drawbacks are 2-3 of your stats being reduced when in the presence of a monster. The rest are taking extra damage.
All of the flaw benefits are extra perks, which are another system.

 

[Duraframe300]

The vast majority of flaw drawbacks are 2-3 of your stats being reduced when in the presence of a monster. The rest are taking extra damage.
All of the flaw benefits are extra perks, which are another system.

A: There's nothing wrong with two systems working together in an rpg.
B: That's... not true? We already have confirmation of flaws potentially having other effects (Permanent concussion/the one with the darkness who's name I can't remember, the pure idea of the lie flaw (which sadly didn't make it in)). Also we haven't seen that many flaws yet. Do you somehow have a list?

 

[Infinitron]

Here's where Tim & Leonard spoke about background C&C being cut: https://youtu.be/I9ptiP6SOSQ?t=2456

 

[biggestboss]

I'm gonna kill any NPC who has that iconic TOW hairstyle. The one on Ellie's head. That'll be a pillar of my character's RP. I already know the fucking ship AI has that same haircut. Would be pleasantly surprised if I can "turn her off".

Every time I see Ellie, I can't help but think fondly upon Sailor Woedica. There's no way I could harm a single hair on her head.

Wouldn't mind dismembering the rest of the NPCs though.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

You've gained a new flaw! Dykephobia. Your party takes more damage from dangerhair feminist NPCs