The Outer Worlds Pre-Release Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[the mole]

Keep projecting, the outer world's won't be a 5 hour book that you got defrauded 40 dollars for, it will actually be a game with gameplay

 

[ScrotumBroth]

OK Feargus.

 

[the mole]

OK Feargus.

What did you think of the 40 dollar book you were defrauded on

 

[the mole]

Why can this retard talk shit about the outer world's but I can't talk shit about the fact he was defrauded on a book

 

[Duraframe300]

https://www.gamesradar.com/uk/i-sai...-of-the-outer-worlds-discuss-its-development/

"I said to the team, 'I hope this becomes your Fallout'": The directors of The Outer Worlds discuss its development
Tim Cain and Leonard Boyarsky discuss The Outer Worlds, a game that feels torn out of time without being dated by

Tim Cain and Leonard Boyarsky are explaining the origins of The Outer Worlds to me over the phone, and I can't help but believe in my heart that it is all an elaborate fabrication. I'm told that production began back in 2016 in collaboration with Private Division, and that the game was finished long before Microsoft opened its cheque book to acquire the studio. That the project has been a labour of love for Obsidian Entertainment, fuelled by the passion of two reunited game directors working alongside a small team of talented young programmers and veteran RPG designers. They explain that The Outer Worlds is the most ambitious game the studio has worked on for quite some time and that it hopes its release garners enough interest to warrant a sequel. I hear what they're saying, and I'm not buying it.

I can't – I'm half expecting Cain to shoot me an apologetic call any minute now, explaining that he couldn't tell me the real origin story while Private Division is listening in on the line. That The Outer Worlds isn't a new creation, but rather a surprise discovery. That Cain was rummaging through a storage cupboard one fateful afternoon and stumbled upon the source code for an Obsidian RPG that you've never played before. That he dusted off the code and set to work giving it a well-deserved polish, enough so that the studio could pass it off as a modern release. "Shhh," he'd say, "don't tell anybody."

This series of imagined events wouldn't be out of the realms of possibility for me because The Outer Worlds looks like a game torn out of time. Torn out of time, but not dated by it. Like it was regretfully put to one side sometime between 2009, as Obsidian worked through the development of Alpha Protocol and Fallout: New Vegas as freelance guns for hire, and 2012, as the studio turned to Kickstarter to fund its isometric throwback Pillars of Eternity. No studio makes RPGs in this style anymore, and there's nothing else quite like The Outer Worlds in the industry right now as a result.

The past becomes the present

"I'm a lot older than a lot of the people working on the game and when we first started on it I said to the team, 'I hope this becomes your Fallout.'" It's a sweet sentiment from Tim Cain, the co-director of The Outer Worlds, sat alongside the other co-director, Leonard Boyarsky. Once upon a time, the duo was a part of the core creative team at Interplay Entertainments – responsible for the original Fallout, one of the most influential RPGs of all time. Now, more than two decades later, they are hoping to do it all over again with The Outer Worlds.

"I hope that in 10 or 20 years people are still talking about The Outer Worlds. I hope that games are still being made in this universe. I hope other games are inspired by it..." Cain continues until Boyarsky leaps in to finish his thought; the two are easy in conversation. "I hope that it resonates with people. To do that, it needs to be satisfying in a deep way, in a way that makes people want to just keep on returning to it over and over again. I want this to feel like a universe that people continually want to play in."

To achieve this lofty goal, Obsidian has constructed a tight adventure cast out across the stars. The Outer Worlds is ostensibly about being lost in space and trying to find your place in it. You are awoken from cryostasis decades after your ship first embarked on its mission to reach the furthest edges of the galaxy, all in an effort to help settle the Halcyon colony. After being left for dead by the colonies' mysterious benefactors, it is you that will act as the unplanned variable in the decimation equation threatening to consume it all. It's heady and it's hearty – this is an Obsidian game, after all.

The Outer Worlds is designed so that you can engage with as much or as little of this core narrative throughline as you desire. With numerous factions vying for power, with countless characters to interact and engage with across two core planets, and a medley of ships and space stations, there is plenty of scope to forge your own path through it all without it becoming disrespectful of your time or attention. "We knew from the beginning that this wasn't going to be a 100-hour epic," Boyarsky explains. "We are doing everything that we can to make sure that we can deliver a great, polished, and fun experience."

In many respects, The Outer Worlds looks like a direct response to the gluttonous RPGs that have become so pervasive in the industry today. The Outer Worlds is a smaller, tighter, and more densely packed proposition than any of its immediate competition, a hand-crafted adventure that is designed to reflect your personality and preferred playstyle through its action and dialogue. "We're making the story that we're trying to tell; our story really lends itself to having smaller areas," Boyarsky continues. "This is a space science-fiction game, where you're a space hero that needs to fly around space and go to all of these different places. If we had just one big continuous map, it wouldn't really have the space opera fantasy/pulp sci-fi fantasy feel that we were going for."

It means that The Outer Worlds should feel manageable. In spite of its scope and depth, it's being created to be something that you can tackle one area, mission, or character interaction at a time. It's refreshing, really. As too is hearing the conviction the game directors' have to ensure that The Outer Worlds is as optimised and bug-free as possible. "Looking at the time and budget we had, we really wanted to take the time to make sure it was a polished experience."

"We didn't want a lot of randomised or quickly-slapped-together content, we wanted to really focus on making the content by hand and making sure it was really fun to play," Boyarsky tells me. "And the flip side of having smaller areas [and] less overall game time is that, because we put so much player-driven choice and reactivity in this game that, when you're done with it, you'll be excited to get back into it and immediately try out some different paths through it – as opposed to some of the longer games where you're like, 'Okay, I need to wait six months before I could even think about starting another playthrough of this game."

Every action has a reaction

Why does Obsidian think you'll be so eager to jump back in? Well, that's because this is something of a freeform experience. The Outer Worlds is a classless RPG; you can build your character in any way that you see fit, investing in skills and perks that you think will be interesting. There is never a single path through any mission, environment, or opportunity, and you'll have plenty of scope to improvise along the way – leaning on abilities such as smooth-talking, sneaking, and fighting as a baseline of how to proceed through each and every scenario that you stumble into.

Obsidian has effectively run itself ragged to prioritise player choice and reactivity in The Outer Worlds. The goal has been to create something that always feels like it is bending to match your decision making, the natural evolution of the work the creative duo has done in this space in years gone bye. "The goal that we had on the original Fallout is the same goal that we had here," says Cain. "Players can play the game in any way that they want to, and the game will react accordingly."

"I think we've evolved since we first worked on Fallout, in terms of our understanding of how to better deliver that experience to the player," Boyarsky continues, noting one of the core lessons that the creative duo has learned since 1997. "If a game is reacting to the player, then the player needs to know and understand that it is reacting. If you don't see or feel like an outcome might have been different if you had done it in another way then it's not going to feel like your choices are making a difference."

Boyarsky goes on to explain that communicating change isn't as explicit as it might be in, say, a Telltale game – "we don't throw our hands up and say 'people are going to remember that!'" – The Outer Worlds is designed in such a way that you should immediately understand when your decisions are having an impact on both a micro and macro level. "If you can't see the fact that the game is reacting to your decisions you're just going to think 'oh, that's what happens when I play the game', and then you have to play it two or three times to see any difference. We're very cognisant of making sure that you understand why things are happening due to the choices that you make [...] we show it through action and dialogue, and the way the world reacts to your presence and the way the game plays out after that."

While it may be difficult to get your head around now, it would be very difficult for The Outer Worlds to offer the same experience to two separate players. The studio has attempted to playtest as many character builds as it possibly can, pushing through as many of its branching paths as possible, but in a world where effectively every character can live or die by your hand, has made exploring every possible outcome something of a challenge.

"We've had the game playable for so long now; we've had a chance to play all of those through multiple times, and in different manners and fashions. We've really hammered out all of the different ways that you can go through the game," Boyarsky says, with Cain jumping in to add: "The Outer Worlds has been playable from start to finish for about two years! I've played it at least 15 times."

When The Outer Worlds launches for PC, PS4, and Xbox One on October 25, you'll have the opportunity to see for yourself just how successfully Obsidian has pulled off its latest RPG experiment. Still, what reassurances can the two directors provide to convince anybody still sitting on the fence that The Outer Worlds is going to be as deep and malleable as promised? Boyarsky thinks on this for a second, chuckles to himself, and asks: "Do we really need to talk about how long we've been doing this?"

 

[ScrotumBroth]

What did you think of the 40 dollar book you were defrauded on

Some of the best art, game designs and writing ever, with a perfect narrative pace. Nothing Obsidian would be interested in.

 

[Quillon]

I was expecting Mass Effect done right, with The Expanse graphics

You don't know Obsidian then. There is no one there that wants modern-ish realistic looking games. Alpha Protocol was an anomaly, prolly they did it with SEGA's insistence. They don't wanna make games that'd require recreating reality more than anything else; all they want is to create their own stuff as much as they can so its either fantasy or retrofuturism that allow maximum author influence, plus they can get away with "jank" easier cos players go into those games with their disbelieves pre-suspended

That said I have no problem with retrofuturistic games, but FUCK FANTASY.

 

[the mole]

What did you think of the 40 dollar book you were defrauded on

Some of the best art, game designs and writing ever, with a perfect narrative pace. Nothing Obsidian would be interested in.

I saw a lot of blue haze and one gloomy day

You're a hipster faggot defending a game with no gameplay that the developer defrauded you 40 dollars out of

 

[Duraframe300]

What did you think of the 40 dollar book you were defrauded on

Some of the best art, game designs and writing ever, with a perfect narrative pace. Nothing Obsidian would be interested in.

I saw a lot of blue haze and one gloomy day

You're a hipster faggot defending a game with no gameplay that the developer defrauded you 40 dollars out of

Name checks out again.

Don't come into the Outer Worlds thread just to shitpost about Disco Elysium a million times. We get it. You hate Disco Elysium.

Move the fuck on.

 

[the mole]

Retards who like books over games come to your thread talking shit about a game that won't defraud you, and you just sit there like a bitch

 

[Duraframe300]

Retards who like books over games come to your thread talking shit about a game that won't defraud you, and you just sit there like a bitch

Outer Worlds isn't *my* game and Disco Elysium is most likely my GOTY. Good RPG's that fill different niches aren't a competition.

 

[Dishonoredbr]

If you want to shipost about Disco , go to that thread. This thread already has enough shitposters of it's own.

 

[Prime Junta]

If you want to shipost about Disco , go to that thread. This thread already has enough shitposters of it's own.

Thanks for the kind offer but you can keep him.

 

[just]

this thread is for intellectuals, true rpg connoisseurs and short hair women lovers

 

[fantadomat]

Why can this retard talk shit about the outer world's but I can't talk shit about the fact he was defrauded on a book

Because one is a pretty good game,and the other one is wannabe popamole american garbage from a rundown studio that lost all its talent a decade ago!

 

[Duraframe300]

. Here was content once.

 

[Dishonoredbr]

. Here was content once.

My bad.. I didn't wanted to sound like a pussy, especialy not here. This place is nefarious even if has some bright minds.

 

[Zombra]

Seriously guys, put the mole on ignore unless you are one of those tough guy purists who likes scrolling past hours of a dude posting the one thought in his one brain cell over and over. I just used Show Ignored Content for a sec and I'm really not missing anything.

 

[toro]

"I said to the team, 'I hope this becomes your Fallout'": The directors of The Outer Worlds discuss its development

Tim and Leo are taking the piss.

Fallout is unrepeatable. The only thing you can copy are the design principles but even if you copy those without a brilliant execution you still got shit.

I don't think they will remain with Obsidian after ToW is released.

 

[tripedal]

Everything I've seen from this game makes it look like New Vegas with a new coat of paint. That's fine, New Vegas was really good. But comparing it to something as original and groundbreaking as Fallout is bizarre...

 

[Abu Antar]

I don't think that Fallout is unrepeatable. Despite the combat, I prefer Arcanum over Fallout.

 

[J_C]

"I said to the team, 'I hope this becomes your Fallout'": The directors of The Outer Worlds discuss its development

Tim and Leo are taking the piss.

Fallout is unrepeatable. The only thing you can copy are the design principles but even if you copy those without a brilliant execution you still got shit.

I don't think they will remain with Obsidian after ToW is released.

If those 2 leave Obsidian, the company is toast creatively. No Avellone, no Zeits, no Gonzales, Cain, Boyarsky. The only one remains is Josh and I think he is burnt out of leading a game and likes to do overall creative officer stuff instead.

 

[fantadomat]

Fallout is unrepeatable.

ATOM

 

[Infinitron]

One of them spent years working on a shitty MMO, the other a fucking decade on Diablo 3, but they're going to leave Obsidian after their first game right when the company has its biggest opportunity to create whatever it wants for Microsoft Game Pass because <insert the Codex's vague sense of eternally impending Obsidian doom here>

It could happen, but why would you be so sure?

 

[toro]

"I said to the team, 'I hope this becomes your Fallout'": The directors of The Outer Worlds discuss its development

Tim and Leo are taking the piss.

Fallout is unrepeatable. The only thing you can copy are the design principles but even if you copy those without a brilliant execution you still got shit.

I don't think they will remain with Obsidian after ToW is released.

If those 2 leave Obsidian, the company is toast creatively. No Avellone, no Zeits, no Gonzales, Cain, Boyarsky. The only one remains is Josh and I think he is burnt out of leading a game and likes to do overall creative officer stuff instead.

The company is already creatively bankrupt. ToW will be the confirmation.