The Outer Worlds Pre-Release Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[toro]

Came across this video on yootoob. He makes some good points.

"good points"

"It looks like a rip-off of Fallout"

Yeah, I'm hitting you with a citation needed on those 'good points'.

The game looks fun, and the aesthetic is neat. Despite my criticisms of the gameplay, that's undeniable.

I mean, unless all you like is grimdark, serious shit. Like Josh Sawyer.

The visual look of the game is derivative of Fallout 4, No Man's Sky and Borderlands, that being said, there's only so much you can do with the 3D-graphics to give your game its own look. To be fair, given what we know of the game so far, I don't think more realistic style would've worked for it.

Indeed Fallout, Arcanum and F3: NV were all about the visuals.

Also please ask Escape from Tarkov or Metro developers about realistic styles.

Fucking codex. Looks like old posters got brain rot and should be put to sleep.

 

[Mr. Hiver]

Tim Cain does a brutal postmortem of every single Fallout game

He never mentioned its "brutal", and that doesnt have anything to do with this one anyway. Except in your delusional broken mind.

Again, why are you taking this to mean that they’re exercising no discretion whatsoever over the end product?

He never said anything like that. You are halucinating strawmans.

The idea that he and Leonard are incapable of delegating wisely or critiquing their subordinates is kind of nuts. They did that at Troika!

No, they worked on games in Troika. With far better team.

 

[Strange Fellow]

Again, why are you taking this to mean that they’re exercising no discretion whatsoever over the end product?

Because I'm a massive pessimist, because I like absolutely nothing of what we've seen so far, and because Obsidian's track record in recent years isn't particularly great. I'm not out to disparage Cain & Boyarsky's management skills, but I do think that they'll excercise less discretion (which is different from no discretion) over other people's ideas compared to their own, just like MCA does. I hope I'm wrong. And I do think that they worked more closely on their games at Troika, because they flat out admit in the interview that they're further removed from development than they've been in the past.

 

[Alienman]

Have to say, the timing for The Outer Worlds couldn't be better, at least for the announcement. There haven't been really any good first-person action rpgs for a good while, Bethesda has lost a lot of goodwill from the potential customers, and even though I'm suspicious of the current writing staff in Obsidian, at least TOW looks (much) more fun than Pillars of Eternity 1 and 2. Also, it seems to be light-hearted and at least try to be fun and adventurous, which I think people are really graving nowadays. One type of game I'd love to play, written by very competent writers, would be The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. crpg...of course, with Bruce Campbell in the very prominent VA-role.

The ironic thing of it all is that this game will probably be the game that saves the studio, if it wasn't for the Microsoft buyout...

But then again, from what I have read and understand here on Codex is that Fergus wanted to sell for a long time now.

 

[Zer0wing]

Lmao which Codexer is running OW social media account.

Is it trolling if it’s the truth?

"Follow this account to be updated on all things #OuterWorlds! NOT affiliated with Obsidian. Acct ran by @4allout"

 

[Jarpie]

Came across this video on yootoob. He makes some good points.

"good points"

"It looks like a rip-off of Fallout"

Yeah, I'm hitting you with a citation needed on those 'good points'.

The game looks fun, and the aesthetic is neat. Despite my criticisms of the gameplay, that's undeniable.

I mean, unless all you like is grimdark, serious shit. Like Josh Sawyer.

The visual look of the game is derivative of Fallout 4, No Man's Sky and Borderlands, that being said, there's only so much you can do with the 3D-graphics to give your game its own look. To be fair, given what we know of the game so far, I don't think more realistic style would've worked for it.

Indeed Fallout, Arcanum and F3: NV were all about the visuals.

Also please ask Escape from Tarkov or Metro developers about realistic styles.

Fucking codex. Looks like old posters got brain rot and should be put to sleep.

Visual style is part of it, especially in Fallout and Arcanum, the visual style builds up the atmosphere of the game, the style they chose for Fallout 1&2 and Arcanum fit those games well. New Vegas will always look like fucking donkey ass, thanks to Bethesda's shitty engine, only redeeming quality in New Vegas is the writing and the quest/story design.

I think part of the reason why they chose more stylized look for the game is that it tends to stand the time better than realistic style.

PS. Fuck you too.

 

[toro]

Came across this video on yootoob. He makes some good points.

"good points"

"It looks like a rip-off of Fallout"

Yeah, I'm hitting you with a citation needed on those 'good points'.

The game looks fun, and the aesthetic is neat. Despite my criticisms of the gameplay, that's undeniable.

I mean, unless all you like is grimdark, serious shit. Like Josh Sawyer.

The visual look of the game is derivative of Fallout 4, No Man's Sky and Borderlands, that being said, there's only so much you can do with the 3D-graphics to give your game its own look. To be fair, given what we know of the game so far, I don't think more realistic style would've worked for it.

Indeed Fallout, Arcanum and F3: NV were all about the visuals.

Also please ask Escape from Tarkov or Metro developers about realistic styles.

Fucking codex. Looks like old posters got brain rot and should be put to sleep.

Visual style is part of it, especially in Fallout and Arcanum, the visual style builds up the atmosphere of the game, the style they chose for Fallout 1&2 and Arcanum fit those games well. New Vegas will always look like fucking donkey ass, thanks to Bethesda's shitty engine, only redeeming quality in New Vegas is the writing and the quest/story design.

I think part of the reason why they chose more stylized look for the game is that it tends to stand the time better than realistic style.

PS. Fuck you too.

The Outer Worlds's visuals are stylized but not in a jarring way like in Borderlands.

Fallout 4 visuals are fine. The game has other issues.

No Man's Sky's look is derivative to start with.

The idea is that nobody except Cain and Boyarsky know what is the real tone of the game therefore nobody can say if the visuals will match the atmosphere or not.

 

[Zer0wing]

Fallout 4 visuals are fine

Citation please. Flat and not properly shadowed city are fine? The overexposed southern part of the map are fine? Glowing puke is fine? Fallout 4 looks like shit but different kind of, much meaner, seeing The Outer Worlds adapting similar techniques actively hurts the game.

 

[Delterius]

The overexposed southern part of the map are fine?

its a metaphor for the atomic explosion

 

[Zer0wing]

its a metaphor for the atomic explosion

210 years have passed.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

RPG Codex - the only acceptable art style is grimdark with depressing colors

Also RPG Codex - Divinity Original Sin is our game of the year.

 

[Roguey]

RPG Codex - the only acceptable art style is grimdark with depressing colors

Also RPG Codex - Divinity Original Sin is our game of the year.

I love colors, but TOW is garish.

 

[Quillon]

I love colors

Which ones?

 

[Delterius]

its a metaphor for the atomic explosion

210 years have passed.

delete your account

 

[toro]

Fallout 4 visuals are fine

Citation please. Flat and not properly shadowed city are fine? The overexposed southern part of the map are fine? Glowing puke is fine? Fallout 4 looks like shit but different kind of, much meaner, seeing The Outer Worlds adapting similar techniques actively hurts the game.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/377160/Fallout_4/

Or you could play the game. It's a piece of shit but the visuals are fine.

 

[Quillon]

Those are bullshots, actual game is worse but not too bad.

 

[Glenda Glenn]

If this game fails to deliver, the proud title of "the original creators of Fallout" will take a critical hit.

 

[sullynathan]

Name one Single player FPS where they are not

STALKER

Came across this video on yootoob. He makes some good points

Guy sounds like a generic vampire

 

[Kyl Von Kull]

Again, why are you taking this to mean that they’re exercising no discretion whatsoever over the end product?

Because I'm a massive pessimist, because I like absolutely nothing of what we've seen so far, and because Obsidian's track record in recent years isn't particularly great. I'm not out to disparage Cain & Boyarsky's management skills, but I do think that they'll excercise less discretion (which is different from no discretion) over other people's ideas compared to their own, just like MCA does. I hope I'm wrong. And I do think that they worked more closely on their games at Troika, because they flat out admit in the interview that they're further removed from development than they've been in the past.

Does MCA actually exercise less discretion over other people’s ideas when he’s calling the shots? Citation needed. He’s polite about other developers in public, but that has little to do with his management style and why would it apply to anyone else? Chris is pathologically self-effacing.

Maybe the skills needed to manage thirty people don’t scale to managing a hundred people, but you could just as easily say Tim and Leonard finally have the money and manpower to realize their vision.

If you don’t like anything at all about what you’ve seen so far, it’s probably because you don’t like that vision. seems a lot more likely than bungled execution.

 

[sullynathan]

Name one Single player FPS where they are not

STALKER

Came across this video on yootoob. He makes some good points

Guy sounds like a generic vampire

https://www.reddit.com/r/stalker/comments/7wy987/enemy_accuracy_and_bullet_sponge_in_coc/

google'd it because I could not arsed to actually autistically remember every detail of Stalker.

Reddit thread doesn't mean much

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

Hopefully Feargus can borrow some designers from MS to give feedback on combat at least, because they certainly have better experience making compelling shooters than anybody at Obsidian.

 

[undecaf]

shooters

Awful creatures. Avoid them when ever I can.

 

[ArchAngel]

Came across this video on yootoob. He makes some good points.

"good points"

"It looks like a rip-off of Fallout"

Yeah, I'm hitting you with a citation needed on those 'good points'.

The game looks fun, and the aesthetic is neat. Despite my criticisms of the gameplay, that's undeniable.

I mean, unless all you like is grimdark, serious shit. Like Josh Sawyer.

The visual look of the game is derivative of Fallout 4, No Man's Sky and Borderlands, that being said, there's only so much you can do with the 3D-graphics to give your game its own look. To be fair, given what we know of the game so far, I don't think more realistic style would've worked for it.

Indeed Fallout, Arcanum and F3: NV were all about the visuals.

Also please ask Escape from Tarkov or Metro developers about realistic styles.

Fucking codex. Looks like old posters got brain rot and should be put to sleep.

Neither Metro or EfT are RPGs. Metros is a story based shooter and EfT a MP PvP shooter. Don't know what is the point of bringing them up. Their focus is on graphics because that is how shooters stand apart from the crowd.

 

[ArchAngel]

Those are bullshots, actual game is worse but not too bad.

They are also taken from a modded F4. I played F4 without mods and it looked like crap (and had terrible FPS for the quality of its graphics).

 

[toro]

Came across this video on yootoob. He makes some good points.

"good points"

"It looks like a rip-off of Fallout"

Yeah, I'm hitting you with a citation needed on those 'good points'.

The game looks fun, and the aesthetic is neat. Despite my criticisms of the gameplay, that's undeniable.

I mean, unless all you like is grimdark, serious shit. Like Josh Sawyer.

The visual look of the game is derivative of Fallout 4, No Man's Sky and Borderlands, that being said, there's only so much you can do with the 3D-graphics to give your game its own look. To be fair, given what we know of the game so far, I don't think more realistic style would've worked for it.

Indeed Fallout, Arcanum and F3: NV were all about the visuals.

Also please ask Escape from Tarkov or Metro developers about realistic styles.

Fucking codex. Looks like old posters got brain rot and should be put to sleep.

Neither Metro or EfT are RPGs. Metros is a story based shooter and EfT a MP PvP shooter. Don't know what is the point of bringing them up. Their focus is on graphics because that is how shooters stand apart from the crowd.

Jarpie was doubtful realistic visuals would work