The Outer Worlds: Spacer's Choice Edition - Obsidian's first-person sci-fi RPG set in a corporate space colony

[Drakortha]

It's only scoring such high marks because it's bug free release and the current Bethesda hate trend going on. I'd be willing to wager a bet on half the people scoring it for this reason never even played NV or the original Fallout's for that matter. People are such sheep and follow the trends, and like what everyone else likes just so they feel included.

I loved NV and felt like many aspects of it were a return to form for Fallout. But I ain't lying to myself that this Outer Worlds is even in the same ball park.

 

[the mole]

I don't think there was a single male guard on the groundbreaker apart from the guy at the entrance

 

[the mole]

am I wrong, I saw alot of women and no males, someone do the tally

 

[Lacrymas]

Who is your audience? Who is making you money? If your paying audience wants asexuals, then give them asexuals. It is not political, or at least it doesn't look political from the developer's perspective.

If your paying audience doesn't give a fuck about asexuals, but you spend resources to give them asexuals, then there is probably something else going on.

I have two responses to this. The first is that if TOW is indeed some kind of financial success (be it on console or whatever) then they actually do cater to their audience. If you don't like what they are offering, then maybe you are not the target audience?

The second thing is that Feargus is shit at imitating big companies, like we've seen numerous times. We know he wants to be an AAA developer, but doesn't have the needed aptitude. He only vaguely knows what big companies do, so it comes off as impotent attempts at stardom. Some kind of wokeness is popular atm and actually big companies (like Disney or Marvel) bank on that with a few sycophantic nods, like "YEAH! GIRL POWER!", while still being as generic and lowest common denominator-y as possible. They'll not make a gay protagonist for example, and women and black people are still very rarely the protagonists.

That's a cute theory, but the way it works in practice is the same groups and the same character tropes are automatically included into every cultural product being made. Authors aren't in the process of choosing "what makes sense in this setting?" or "what does my audience want?." They're in the process of "which marginalized minority groups I need to include to avoid a Twitter mob?" or "which group I need to include to look superwoke to my Twitter bubble?."

Automatically including some people everywhere marginalizes and exoticizes (at best) others, though, and that's the whole SJW shtick. I kinda agree with them on this. But yeah, this is a pretty shit way of doing it, but like we've established Nubsidian has shit writers.

 

[bertram_tung]

Who is your audience? Who is making you money? If your paying audience wants asexuals, then give them asexuals. It is not political, or at least it doesn't look political from the developer's perspective.

If your paying audience doesn't give a fuck about asexuals, but you spend resources to give them asexuals, then there is probably something else going on.

I have two responses to this. The first is that if TOW is indeed some kind of financial success (be it on console or whatever) then they actually do cater to their audience. If you don't like what they are offering, then maybe you are not the target audience?

No matter how successful it is, it would have been more successful if they didn't make all of the female NPCs look like bulldykes. Has everyone suddenly forgotten the age old advertising adage? Sex sells!

And if you for some reason don't want to include sexy women, then you could at least substitute normal looking women.

 

[Drakortha]

Who is your audience? Who is making you money? If your paying audience wants asexuals, then give them asexuals. It is not political, or at least it doesn't look political from the developer's perspective.

If your paying audience doesn't give a fuck about asexuals, but you spend resources to give them asexuals, then there is probably something else going on.

I have two responses to this. The first is that if TOW is indeed some kind of financial success (be it on console or whatever) then they actually do cater to their audience. If you don't like what they are offering, then maybe you are not the target audience?

No matter how successful it is, it would have been more successful if they didn't make all of the female NPCs look like bulldykes. Has everyone suddenly forgotten the age old advertising adage? Sex sells!

And if you for some reason don't want to include sexy women, then you could at least substitute normal looking women.

Mods will fix it.

 

[Belegarsson]

I'm still fairly early in the game, but it's the best Sci-fi RPG I've played in a long time. Of course that isn't saying much because the only other modern Sci-fi RPGs are Mass Effect, KotOR, and Borderlands (if you consider Borderlands an RPG).

Try these instead

 

[just]

cant wait for a planet full of anime catgirls

 

[HoboForEternity]

the loot gets boring.

I've only just reached Groundbreaker, and I'm already getting bored with the loot. The problem is that there's way too much of it, and it doesn't feel like I'm really earning most things.

Still enjoying this more than Greedfall though.

weird because i enjoyed greedfall more than this so far.

Did you finish it? I started out loving Greedfall, but the more I played the lower my opinion got. By the time I finished it, I was just relieved it was over.

The exploration sucked, and the amount of backtracking during quests was insane.

i feel like at least greedfall have a point in doing all those back and forward questing. it have spiders usual problem with backtracking, but minimized with the fast travel and easily running away from trash mobs. but the quest feels like they are all interconnected with the main story. it doesn't have much options, much like TOW, but i dunno, they just feel worth doing. like helping the natives releasing their captured brethren, restructuring the church by finding the secrets of their foundation, and convincing the leader, catching rouge scientist, finding missing naut sailor, etc.

the outer worlds quest mostly dont give that feeling of being involved in events for me, but just doing checklist of task to advance the story because the setting don't really hook me i guess.

 

[Reinhardt]

all of the Twiteratti would be writing critical essays about women's exploitation in the middle east

 

[cvv]

I'm still fairly early in the game, but it's the best Sci-fi RPG I've played in a long time. Of course that isn't saying much because the only other modern Sci-fi RPGs are Mass Effect, KotOR, and Borderlands (if you consider Borderlands an RPG).

Try these instead

I for one couldn't get into Prey. Didn't like Dishonored 1 and 2 either. There's something about Arkane's style....can't put my finger on it. Altho I loved Arx Fatalis.
That Consortium game is still an EA and the color palette is also p. garish but we'll se.
Finally grabbed Star Crawlers and EYE.
Shout out for highlighting all those.

 

[JDR13]

the loot gets boring.

I've only just reached Groundbreaker, and I'm already getting bored with the loot. The problem is that there's way too much of it, and it doesn't feel like I'm really earning most things.

Still enjoying this more than Greedfall though.

weird because i enjoyed greedfall more than this so far.

Did you finish it? I started out loving Greedfall, but the more I played the lower my opinion got. By the time I finished it, I was just relieved it was over.

The exploration sucked, and the amount of backtracking during quests was insane.

i feel like at least greedfall have a point in doing all those back and forward questing. it have spiders usual problem with backtracking, but minimized with the fast travel and easily running away from trash mobs. but the quest feels like they are all interconnected with the main story. it doesn't have much options, much like TOW, but i dunno, they just feel worth doing. like helping the natives releasing their captured brethren, restructuring the church by finding the secrets of their foundation, and convincing the leader, catching rouge scientist, finding missing naut sailor, etc.

the outer worlds quest mostly dont give that feeling of being involved in events for me, but just doing checklist of task to advance the story because the setting don't really hook me i guess.

It wasn't though. The fact that you can only fast travel from certain places is what makes it so annoying. I probably would have enjoyed the game a lot more if it simply allowed the player to fast travel from anywhere on the map.

I also didn't care for any of the factions in that game. To me, there was just nothing likeable about any of them.

 

[Black]

https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-outer-worlds

82 critic score average
80 player score average

Slam dunk by Feargus, now all that's left is pumping one TOW instalment per year.

 

[laclongquan]

MOTHERFUCKERS! You say girl power as if something bad.

You just fucking wait until I get some slinky costume mod for those power gals~ :fap:

It just had to not have any technical issues (minimal crashes) and look good enough to sell.

For an Obsidian game that was huge progress

 

[laclongquan]

Sci-fi is a creatively bankrupt setting for all media.

Up yours, birdman~

 

[JDR13]

I'm still fairly early in the game, but it's the best Sci-fi RPG I've played in a long time. Of course that isn't saying much because the only other modern Sci-fi RPGs are Mass Effect, KotOR, and Borderlands (if you consider Borderlands an RPG).

Try these instead

Thanks. I liked Prey quite a bit. Didn't care for Starcrawlers too much. Haven't played Consortium or E.Y.E. yet.

 

[Reinhardt]

cant wait for a planet full of anime catgirls

I doubt there will be any. People don't mod much in games where there is basically nothing to do except main quest. In TOW there is nothing to build up on. No base. It's not New Vegas, it's not even F3 or other Bethesda games where you can play for weeks without even bothering with main quest.

 

[just]

cant wait for a planet full of anime catgirls

I doubt there will be any. People don't mod much in games where there is basically nothing to do except main quest. In TOW there is nothing to build up on. No base. It's not New Vegas, it's not even F3 or other Bethesda games where you can play for weeks without even bothering with main quest.

man can dream

 

[HoboForEternity]

further elaborating greedfall comparison, all the nameless marauders hurt the game too in TOW. in greedfall, aside from wild animals, most of the human enemies aren't nameless mooks. they are still in essence mooks to be killed, but the backgrounds makes them belong at least in a certain faction (even if it's fully antagonistic factions you can never join in the first place) and it does carry more weight than just bethesda style raiders. picking few example on greedfall, you fight against the shadow coin guard division, enraged native tribe that have leaders you interact with, the inquisitors, rogue scientists, etc. hell the random bandits you fight from quests are actually rare and you only find them near cities or in cities at night.

TOW pits you too much against nameless marauders that all the quest feels like fallout 4 fetch quest with extra steps, especially in monarch.

again i haven't done with the game. i got to the point where UDL spaceship or something crashed on monarch last night and i stopped there to go sleep.

 

[Reinhardt]

All i can think is model swap for weapons, reshades and maybe slightly less ugly females with cleaner faces. Obligatory prosper nude mod. I doubt there will be much more. No new planets or questlines - that's i'm sure.

 

[drgames]

I am in state of doubt, what are the goods and bads of the game?

 

[Riddler]

https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-outer-worlds

82 critic score average
80 player score average

Also, the vast majority of the positive reviews are from release day and obviously from people who've barely, if at all, played the game. The more recent reviews are fairly uniformly yellow/red.

I predict the game will end up with 7.9 or 7.8, which is at or below the level of Greedfall.

 

[PrettyDeadman]

I am in state of doubt, what are the goods and bads of the game?

I finished it twice, didnt even like it that much. You can try.

 

[Prime Junta]

I am in state of doubt, what are the goods and bads of the game?

Goods: addictive core gameplay loop, ticks all the boxes, relatively bug-free.

Bads: that's all there's to it.

 

[JDR13]

I am in state of doubt, what are the goods and bads of the game?

I finished it twice, didnt even like it that much. You can try.

You played through it twice in less than a week?