The Outer Worlds: Spacer's Choice Edition - Obsidian's first-person sci-fi RPG set in a corporate space colony

[A_boring_GOG_bot]

An Obsidian game ?

*Season Pass confirmed "

 

[Daidre]

Every mention of diversity, sexuality in games shrinks immersion. Writers just can't get that. Why?

There is something really wrong with this claim and a picture - diversity and sexiness in media are almost at odds right now.

In fact, TOW is so prudish, that I half expected to find factory that produces grown-up, dumb and obedient colonist with suppressed reproduction instinct as cool secret deep into plot. Beside the boy who was hitting on Parvati (failed totally) and her perfect lesbian mommy, I am yet to encounter any NPC who looked or acted as couple, ~8 hours into game.

 

[Yosharian]

Except when there are pretty ladies to be saved and then thank the male hero with sex of course. It's very funny to me how SJWs have been saying the constant depictions of blacks as primitive, women as duplicitous and cunning, gay men as evil or perverse and etc is ...not ideal, and that's obviously ok for some people, but when straight men are overwhelmingly depicted as inept underlings, suddenly we need social justice for men in fiction.

'Not ideal'? That's how you frame what they're saying?

Is anyone actually saying that we need social justice for men?

You're being terribly disingenuous here. You're doing the thing where people say, for example, "All Anita Sarkeesian said was that maybe we should have better female characters..." when actually the principal problems people had with her was all the other stuff she said.

 

[cvv]

i dont mind all the male looking female

Because you are one.

 

[vortex]

Except when there are pretty ladies to be saved and then thank the male hero with sex of course. It's very funny to me how SJWs have been saying the constant depictions of blacks as primitive, women as duplicitous and cunning, gay men as evil or perverse and etc is ...not ideal, and that's obviously ok for some people, but when straight men are overwhelmingly depicted as inept underlings, suddenly we need social justice for men in fiction.

All of this is just filler content in thrilling and swashbuckling adventure. Look at Lord of the Rings.
Every romance in there, you just want to be over with so you get to the most interesting part and that is sense of adventurous, frightening and wondrous quest.
Today,
sexuality, diversity, SJW-ism is filler and cringefest content for social media.

 

[Lacrymas]

'Not ideal'? That's how you frame what they're saying?

Is anyone actually saying that we need social justice for men?

The ones which aren't insane, yes. This is in the context of fiction. What do you think making lists about how men in this game (and in PoE2 for some reason) are overwhelmingly depicted as inept, subservient to women, weak, bad, in the background etc. tries to achieve? It's not simply stating that that's how it is and c'est la vie, let's move on to other stuff. There's obviously some animosity going on and someone not being happy about something.

 

[Lambach]

Another blunder from obshitian.

Hardly a blunder, I see all the normies disappointed in Bethesda are eating this shit up with a shovel, and that's a pretty large market. Hard to tell without specific numbers, but it looks like Obsidian have done what they set out to do.

 

[Deleted Member 22431]

In fact, TOW is so prudish, that I half expected to find factory that produces grown-up, dumb and obedient colonist with suppressed reproduction instinct as cool secret deep into plot.

Reactionaries, pay attention. For all your complaints against the degeneracy of modern gaming, the SJW fanaticism is doing a great job of reestablishing outdated morals.

 

[Deleted Member 22431]

it's just a fact that the writing is mediocre at best.

You could say the same about Fallout 1.

No, you can't. You think you can because you are confused. You are doing a poor analysis. FO was bigger than the sum of its parts, it was an inspired and innovative game, and it was ahead of its time. It had charm and pace. You don't judge cRPG writing by the level of the written prose in comparison to novels, as if the writing were dissociated from the gameplay. Good cRPG writing is always tied to elegant game design.

 

[Deleted Member 22431]

Except when there are pretty ladies to be saved and then thank the male hero with sex of course. It's very funny to me how SJWs have been saying the constant depictions of blacks as primitive, women as duplicitous and cunning, gay men as evil or perverse and etc is ...not ideal, and that's obviously ok for some people, but when straight men are overwhelmingly depicted as inept underlings, suddenly we need social justice for men in fiction.

You don't understand. This is a product made for a male audience that likes these tropes, not for some small minority that is irrelevant in sales numbers. It is an insult that we should play games with quests and tasks that reflect the interests of people that have nothing to do with us. This is not a matter of social justice. It is a matter of coherence and productivity. On the other hand, if people here don't enjoy this proselytism, don't buy their games. It is stupid to complain about Obsidian and then buy their next game. It is that simple.

 

[v1rus]

Got in the game, its cool so far.

Have no idea how that inhaler slot thing works, or what to do companion commands do, and the game doesnt seem to have an explanation for it in the codex. But, eh.

Now, does anyone have a quest list per zones?

 

[cvv]

I actually think that Codex, as well as most of the anti-SJW groups, often end up getting into too much paranoia about games, movies, or whatever product is being discussed at the moment.

That said... Now that I've finished the game, in retrospect, I can see how there is a lot of "weird" stuff in it.

You and some others ITT are like Parvati in the game. You're happily skipping across the dystopian landscape, picking flowers and merrily singing along, completely oblivious to the ambient reality. All the scowling people around you are just grumpies, grouchies and sourpusses.
But sloooooowly, it starts dawning on you something might be wrong after all.

Better late then never tho, unlike some others ITT.

 

[Daidre]

Today,
sexuality, diversity, SJW-ism is filler and cringefest content for social media.

Hm, in my logic video-games = entertainment != social media.

So diversity and SJW-ism are somehow belong in some social media aimed at particular audience, but...

Please, please, I beg you, leave it out of my SP games.

 

[Infinitron]

Got in the game, its cool so far.

Have no idea how that inhaler slot thing works, or what to do companion commands do, and the game doesnt seem to have an explanation for it in the codex. But, eh.

The inhaler mechanic doesn't come into play until you unlock more slots. You can put any consumable in them and when you press F it activates them all at once. But until you unlock the slots it's just for healing.

Companion commands - Z to move a companion to a particular place (they'll shoot at enemies that come close but stay in place), X to direct them to attack a particular enemy. Hold Z for a second to cancel previous orders.

 

[Deleted Member 22431]

What's wrong with an asexual character? It hasn't been done much, I welcome diversity and characters that aren't the usual knock-offs we always get. Deal with it.

Need more tags.

Look, if this game becomes a best seller and Obsidian is set, and it means we get more games like Tyranny, I'm good with it. I really want the best for these guys.

Why?

 

[Riddler]

Except when there are pretty ladies to be saved and then thank the male hero with sex of course. It's very funny to me how SJWs have been saying the constant depictions of blacks as primitive, women as duplicitous and cunning, gay men as evil or perverse and etc is ...not ideal, and that's obviously ok for some people, but when straight men are overwhelmingly depicted as inept underlings, suddenly we need social justice for men in fiction.

When the fuck was this ever the case in cRPGs? Most certainly not in any BioWare, Black Isle, Obsidian, Bethesda, Piranha Bytes game at least.

Or are you perhaps talking about Super Mario? In that case then please reveal how you can unlock the sex scenes because I never managed to do that.

 

[Deleted Member 22431]

The itemization in this game is the worst Obsidian has done ever. Endless recycling of trash tier weapons and armor, you'll amass 90+ healing and hack/lock-pick items in your first hours even in Supernova difficulty, piles of boring consumables with the same effect... I can't take it anymore, I might be getting too old for this.

That's every loot system nowadays... Basically trash in a million trash-cans and heaps all over every map + almost everything is just generic stuff so exploration and obsessive looting and quest rewards make you feel like an idiot for bothering at all.

It is as if you are pretending to evaluate students, but distributing As left and right. It makes the whole thing pointless. You either have resource management and proper itemization or you don't. If you don't have them, what is the point of pretending that you have a game at all?

 

[Lambach]

This is a product made for a male audience that likes these tropes

No it's not. Go to any website or YT channel that praises the game and you'll see whom it was made for. Obsidian know their audience, and you ain't it anymore.

 

[Deleted Member 22431]

"The story behind Parvati, the internet’s favorite Outer Worlds companion" - interview with Kate Dollarhyde.

https://www.polygon.com/platform/am...-outer-worlds-parvati-companion-quest-writers

There is a kind of science fiction right now that I feel is best exemplified by The Expanse. It’s this portrayal of a future where there is not just a male, white, cisgender future for our society. It is a spectrum of colors, a spectrum of experiences, the spectrum of languages, a spectrum of sexual identification, and of sexuality. How important was it for you as a writer to really look at the spectrum of human experience and project it forward into the future of science fiction?

It was hugely important and I honestly wish we could do more of it if we had more time.

 

[Deleted Member 22431]

This is a product made for a male audience that likes these tropes

No it's not. Go to any website or YT channel that praises the game and you'll see whom it was made for. Obsidian know their audience, and you ain't it anymore.

That's obviously a biased sample.

 

[Xeon]

I hope the game doesn't dethrone FNV as Obsidian's most successful game. It was mostly decent for what it is. Hope they make a better game if they want a more successful game.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

On Youtube:

This is hard to listen because of horrible audio, but they confirm there was two rounds of cuts and how they wanted to avoid repeating Troika mistakes where they didn't control scope early enough and released broken mess that had to be fixed by fans.

 

[Riddler]

https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-outer-worlds

82 critic score average
80 player score average

Also, the vast majority of the positive reviews are from release day and obviously from people who've barely, if at all, played the game. The more recent reviews are fairly uniformly yellow/red.

I predict the game will end up with 7.9 or 7.8, which is at or below the level of Greedfall.

Care to come and come back and accept your shame JDR13 & jf8350143 ?

Now the same score as Greedfall and going down.

 

[Quillon]

Except when there are pretty ladies to be saved and then thank the male hero with sex of course. It's very funny to me how SJWs have been saying the constant depictions of blacks as primitive, women as duplicitous and cunning, gay men as evil or perverse and etc is ...not ideal, and that's obviously ok for some people, but when straight men are overwhelmingly depicted as inept underlings, suddenly we need social justice for men in fiction.

When the fuck was this ever the case in cRPGs? Most certainly not in any BioWare, Black Isle, Obsidian, Bethesda, Piranha Bytes game at least.

Or are you perhaps talking about Super Mario? In that case then please reveal how you can unlock the sex scenes because I never managed to do that.

Meh, its not depiction of sexuality when its seen as normal or even cliche for a long while now.

What's wrong with an asexual character? It hasn't been done much, I welcome diversity and characters that aren't the usual knock-offs we always get. Deal with it.

Because there is no sexuality to any character in the game except for the asexual one. Sheer existence of it breaks suspension of disbelief; when you've subconsciously accepted the things as they are presented in the game suddenly you become aware of how asexual the whole game is, tl;dr bad for the experience, yo :D

This is just one reason tho, I'm sure fellow codexers have more.

 

[Infinitron]

Care to come and come back and accept your shame JDR13 & jf8350143 ?

Now the same score as Greedfall and going down.

What's the point of looking only at the PC page?

https://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/the-outer-worlds
https://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-one/the-outer-worlds