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The Outer Worlds: Spacer's Choice Edition - Obsidian's first-person sci-fi RPG set in a corporate space colony
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I believe you never felt like it dropped a frame.
Most people aren't very sensitive to this, nor do they play with a graph on screen. fanta is another one who swears he has never had a dropped-frame in any game ever. I envy you guys.
Most people aren't very sensitive to this, nor do they play with a graph on screen. fanta is another one who swears he has never had a dropped-frame in any game ever. I envy you guys.
I vsinc-locked it at 60 (QHD) on ultras and game never stattered or dipped below 60 on my 2 year old GTX1080. It also seem to have some minor memory leak but nowhere as brutal like one in Deadfire. It took ~5 hours without restart to notice performance deterioration with 32 GB RAM. I noticed it only because I got 40 fps at Byzantium, thought "wow too good for my gpu" and tried to restart.
Raghar
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With gtx 660, it's completely fine. And I can be even on medium. (with most things)
i feel i need to clarify something. Generally speaking I get around 60-80fps in TOW at 1080p, mainly because I cap it at 80fps which is my display's max refresh rate (i use vsync, need that smoothness).
Ok, so if the game does 60-80fps, and it only drops to low 60s when it is in a heavy area, it stands to reason that if I were to suddenly cap the framerate to 30 it should then never, ever dip below 30... right? Because even in a heavy area it was doing low 60fps, so capping it to 30 should mean that it will always then remain at 30fps.
...Except the game doesn't. When running around it will sometimes drop 1 or 2 frames, dipping from 30fps to 28 or 27. THAT is what I mean by frame-drops. It should never drop frames when it's already in a performant state, in my example under the 30fps cap. If a game does something like this then it means it's dropping frames and it's not related to the actual performance, since the frame rate is already so low that it would never reach that frame bottom.
That's how you know a game has bad frame-pacing. Normal, well-performing games, don't behave like this: a normal well-performing game, which averages 60-80fps, if capped to 30 would then never, ever dip a single frame below 30.
That's what I mean by frame-pacing, or by "frame drops". The fact that a game fluctuates between it's normal frame averages, in my case between 60-80, is NOT considered "Frame dropping". that's just normal operation.
People aren't looking for this and rarely notice it.
Ok, so if the game does 60-80fps, and it only drops to low 60s when it is in a heavy area, it stands to reason that if I were to suddenly cap the framerate to 30 it should then never, ever dip below 30... right? Because even in a heavy area it was doing low 60fps, so capping it to 30 should mean that it will always then remain at 30fps.
...Except the game doesn't. When running around it will sometimes drop 1 or 2 frames, dipping from 30fps to 28 or 27. THAT is what I mean by frame-drops. It should never drop frames when it's already in a performant state, in my example under the 30fps cap. If a game does something like this then it means it's dropping frames and it's not related to the actual performance, since the frame rate is already so low that it would never reach that frame bottom.
That's how you know a game has bad frame-pacing. Normal, well-performing games, don't behave like this: a normal well-performing game, which averages 60-80fps, if capped to 30 would then never, ever dip a single frame below 30.
That's what I mean by frame-pacing, or by "frame drops". The fact that a game fluctuates between it's normal frame averages, in my case between 60-80, is NOT considered "Frame dropping". that's just normal operation.
People aren't looking for this and rarely notice it.
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I actually do not think that such frame drops had anything to do with GPU's raw power, like 720p experiment shows.
I noticed similar behavior on my previous GTX770 - when game has its own Vsync + it switched on in Nvidia control panel globally they sometime, I do not know, overlap and cause statters/tearing/frame drops. In result, I often switched off Vsync everywhere and used Afterburner to force fps cap.
fantadomat
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What data nigga? It is a bunch of most sold top 10s and a market value sold. Show me the data because i must have skipped it lol.
Duraframe300
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NPD doesn't give hard data to the public anymore (their statistics are meant for business analysts in the first place), except general numbers of software and hardware sales (for a few years now). So, you're not going to get exact numbers.It's also not measuring sold units, but hard cash value.
So, the only hard fact here is, as I said, that Outer Worlds was the second best selling game in october in the US. That's a fact. What that means, we don't know. It could be that Modern Warfare ate up all game sales in the month and every other game sold horribly. That's possible by all accounts.
They are officialy recognized though (not just for videogames, but for sales data in general).
is shooting fun? better or worse than FO:NV?
Dude, I actually am sensitive to framerates and have a g-sync monitor and set the game lower to get 100fps for this reason. Don't assume people with a different experience are ignorant. You said stutter... I get no stutter. I do get drops in framerates in certain areas (Byzantium and Stellar Bay pretty much, nowhere else I remember). My typical 100-120fps would drop to 70-80 in those cities. This is different from stutter. I get no stutter, or sudden drops that quickly go back up. Very consistent performance.
Gsync tho. That could definitely be smoothing it out. I need to get a gsync monitor soon.
Anyway I gave an explenation above about what frame-drops are. If you were to cap TOW to 30fps, as an example, there would be moments while walking around when it would drop to 29 or 28fps every so often; something that should normally not happen. My guess is it's Unreal Engine 4 asset streaming shenanigans.
Coincidentally I saw similar frame drops happen just now while watching someone stream Jedi Fallen Order game on Twitch. That game's UE4 as well.
Anyway I gave an explenation above about what frame-drops are. If you were to cap TOW to 30fps, as an example, there would be moments while walking around when it would drop to 29 or 28fps every so often; something that should normally not happen. My guess is it's Unreal Engine 4 asset streaming shenanigans.
Coincidentally I saw similar frame drops happen just now while watching someone stream Jedi Fallen Order game on Twitch. That game's UE4 as well.
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That aspect is head and shoulders above FNV - infinitely more fun.
About on Fallout 4 level
The shooty-shooty is way better than New Vegas. HOWEVER...
... everything else about the combat is way worse. Weapons are more way more boring (though the Science weapons are a fun gimmick), loot is horrendously shitty and the combat encounter design is fucked up the ass.
If you enjoyed the moments of peace and quiet you had sometimes in New Vegas while walking in the wild (a bit unfair to compare directly perhaps since NV is open world, but still) then, well... TOW is here to show you that it's wrong and that it's waaaay more fun for you to shoot at the same shitty monster type every 5 seconds.
... everything else about the combat is way worse. Weapons are more way more boring (though the Science weapons are a fun gimmick), loot is horrendously shitty and the combat encounter design is fucked up the ass.
If you enjoyed the moments of peace and quiet you had sometimes in New Vegas while walking in the wild (a bit unfair to compare directly perhaps since NV is open world, but still) then, well... TOW is here to show you that it's wrong and that it's waaaay more fun for you to shoot at the same shitty monster type every 5 seconds.
Uncreation
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Wait, some of you faggots actually bought this? Why would you do this to yourselves?
Atchodas
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probably same cucks who think FNV was actually a good game
Dedicated_Dark
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And I can't believe they are still talking about it. Like what's there in this rubbish worth 190 pages!
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NPD numbers are also just America. Looking into them too much is dumb and retards should stop deliberately forgetting to mention that little tidbit when posting NPD crap.
I definitely do get stutters on that one, sadly. Seems super common.
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