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The Outer Worlds: Spacer's Choice Edition - Obsidian's first-person sci-fi RPG set in a corporate space colony

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Finally finished Monarch. Anybody notice that MSI and the Iconoclasts send out patrols (and even fight each other at the Terra One Publications building) after the UDL gunship crashes? Why weren't those out there from the start? Would have made the world feel more alive. As it is, it seems like a half-implemented thing. They seem to get into fights with beasts but the Marauders ignore them ("sup guys, just walking past this roadblock!")

Also, tfw encountering Herbert, the man under the Cascadia bridge.
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Yeah I reloaded and just stealthed in and stole his unique gear, Herbert did nothing wrong.
 

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Playing ToW has revealed my dark-side...I transferred power to the hippies without even hesitating. Then I shot the corporate-guy and stole his bowler :negative:
 

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I sat comfortably with >100 picks throughout most of the game past Groundbreaker.
Once you hit Hacking 40 you get lockpicks from vending machines for pocket change. They really should not have made them that cheap.

They should not have make lockpicks random loot or available from vending machines in the first place! I mean these things are illegal, like the hacking tools. Getting them only from special vendors, like the fence on the Groundbreaker, would have made a huge difference in making the worldbuilding better!
 

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At least the Magpicks are theoretically useful. I've encountered maybe 3-4 places where you can use Bypass Shunts (the Hacking equivalent of Magpicks) over the course of the entire game so far. That's just bizarre, and suggests they were added to the game near the end of development when it is too late for the designers to create content that used them.
 
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I sat comfortably with >100 picks throughout most of the game past Groundbreaker.
Once you hit Hacking 40 you get lockpicks from vending machines for pocket change. They really should not have made them that cheap.

They should not have make lockpicks random loot or available from vending machines in the first place! I mean these things are illegal, like the hacking tools. Getting them only from special vendors, like the fence on the Groundbreaker, would have made a huge difference in making the worldbuilding better!

It's a very questionable decision to have lock picking be a mere threshold anyway, let alone having readily available consumables to make it easier. The practical meaning of the "skill" is literally "higher number means open more doors". Seems much better to have something like in Arcanum, where you risk jamming the lock after too many attempts and then you have to bash it open (drawing attention to yourself and damaging your weapons).

The latter is a quintessential RPG system: risks and rewards opening and closing different paths forward based on character build. In TOW it's just "Do I want to open more doors, or nah?"
 

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At least the Magpicks are theoretically useful. I've encountered maybe 3-4 places where you can use Bypass Shunts (the Hacking equivalent of Magpicks) over the course of the entire game so far. That's just bizarre, and suggests they were added to the game near the end of development when it is too late for the designers to create content that used them.

Is that what Bypass Shunts were? I don't think I used a single one throughout the entire game.
I always thought they were healing items for some sort of limb damage system that wasn't implemented well.
 

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Do you get benefits for going over 100 in a skill?

There's a benefit for Lockpicking at least (need to get it up to 120 to pick 100 difficulty locks without using up Magpicks).
Are these 120 skill bonuses listed anywhere or do you have to figure it out on your own?

That's not a unique benefit, it's just how the lockpicking mechanic works in general. One less lockpick needed for each five points you have over the lock difficulty, starting from 5.
 

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Did anyone ever run out of Magpicks? I'm pretty sure I never went below double digits.

The entire item "economy" is totally fucked and a big issue with the game. You quickly get hundreds of everything and never have to worry one bit about opening a door, hitting the health button, spending ammo, etc.
 

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Incloosive! But kinda interesting: https://ablegamers.org/accessing-a-colorful-dystopia/

ACCESSING A COLORFUL DYSTOPIA
You know what’s great about inclusive design? It doesn’t have to make a big spectacle of itself in order for you to recognize it, enjoy it, and utilize it. A solid character creator means the player can express attributes they most want to be represented by, the ability to take whatever path through a story best fits the role you’re playing, and the world having clear visual designs to all of its supernatural elements. Luckily, The Outer Worlds from Obsidian Entertainment contains all of this. You can be almost anyone, handle things how you want, and you can fairly clearly see what’s happening along the way!

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Shortly after The Outer Worlds’s October 2019 release, Obsidian studio design director – Josh Sawyer – tweeted a statement explaining why The Outer Worlds lacked a Colorblind Mode option: it didn’t need one. The information received from colors in The Outer Worlds is redundant to other information, including icons, physical shapes, and text information presented to the player.

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As an example, this is a screenshot straight from my level 23 character’s weapon inventory. Each weapon item has a little symbol in the lower left of its box, indicating the type of damage that the weapon is dealing. The symbols have a pretty distinct shape and their brightness levels are in contrast against the darker background. That difference in physical shape not only seems like a natural fit in indicating the damage type, but it means that the colors there aren’t necessary to identify what’s what. Let’s look at the same screenshot in greyscale.

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Depending on your view of this article, the picture view may be a bit small to really indicate the distinctness in the symbols, but I can attest to their physical distinctness at full resolution. I’d also like to point out some of the other information that’s there, such as the Unique items with their glow effect in the background, or the special Science weapons that have a faint atomic symbol. This is very good, especially compared to other games with such loot tiers indicated only by a color outline. Even the ammunition boxes also have non-color information, including the text of being Light, Heavy, or Energy, as well as the box pictures having different shapes and levels of brightness.
This kind design inclusivity doesn’t just come out of nowhere. Josh Sawyer called out game director and chocolate-lover, Tim Cain, as having a nearly monochromatic form of colorblindness. I was able to land an interview with Tim to discuss his color blindness and how it affects his work. Tim explains that his form of color blindness runs in the family, where almost everyone is born with full color vision, but loses colors over time. In his 20s, he made a switch from glasses to contacts and missed a single color bubble test. Since then, he’s done worse on the color tests every year, starting with his greens and reds, followed by blues. According to Tim, the sky is usually a steely-grey color, regardless of the weather. On the plus side, the nature of his color blindness has actually increased his night-vision ability, though it doesn’t help him fight crime or anything.

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Despite a lack of overnight crime-fighting, Tim is a legend in the games industry, having lead and worked on some of the greatest RPGs of our time, including Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura and Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines. Notably, Tim is one of the original people behind the Fallout series, having directly steered much of Fallout 1 and 2’s design. I was able to get my fanboying out of the way early in our interview, as I can cite Fallout for being the game that really opened 10 year old me up to the possibilities of what a gaming experience could be. Tim was quick to call out that I was definitely too young to play those games – and he’s correct – but I think I turned out alright.

Even when Tim was with Interplay Entertainment in the 1990s, he was pushing for inclusivity in designs. He recalled a game that had a copy-protection system that utilized a code wheel where you needed to refer to a color on the wheel to confirm a code to validate the game. Tim could not tell what some of the colors were and one of his managers even thought that Tim was messing around, not being able to understand that the colors just don’t work for Tim.

Tim referred to a few things that highlight on his color blindness in his day-to-day life. When buying something with his credit card at a store, it’s normal to be told to “press the green button to confirm”, but that can be tough if you can’t discern the green from the other button colors. He prefers buying clothes online, because the items are often listed with the color being written out on the product pages, whereas your typical clothing rack doesn’t have such information. Tim has also become a self-described “reverse vampire”, going into work much earlier than his colleagues because he isn’t as comfortable driving at night because it’s harder for him to tell the positions of things like traffic lights when it’s dark out.

In game design, Tim has some tips to be more inclusive in the design. If a game element is going to use colors to identify differences, then the color change should come with a texture change as well. When working with a UI designer, do a greyscale mock-up to ensure the necessary information is still clearly visible. Tim said that at Obsidian, they’ve been talking about replacing the need for many accessibility settings by just having the design be as inclusive as possible from the get-go, like having a big enough text size to avoid needing to add in text-size settings.

Tim would like to see more done for accessibility, both at Obsidian and across the industry. Now that the studio is under the Microsoft corporate umbrella, they are also able to take advantage of Microsoft’s Accessibility division resources to further their inclusive design efforts. Tim said that he would love to be able to tell his Xbox that he’s colorblind, instead of having to tell each game individually. Since The Outer Worlds was declared a commercial success by the game’s publisher – Take-Two Interactive – in their Q2 FY2020 investor call, then there may be more market viability for that kind of inclusive design philosophy and the hard work in pulling it off, which includes following some of the guidelines we offer through Accessible.Games.

Haven’t found your fortune in the Halcyon Colony in The Outer Worlds just yet? You can find it for Playstation 4, Xbox One, and Windows PCs with a Nintendo Switch version currently in the works!

Do you have your own accessibility and games development story to share? Then let us know so we can get your perspective out there.

Thank you for reading and doing your part in making sure everyone can game!
 

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Weapons might look apart but food and munitions blend together since they are very similar looking branded boxes, some items are ridiculously similar like the tobacco and the light ammunition. Felt kinda rushed.
 

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Explain why it doesn't have a colorblind option?
Honestly I don't think I've seen any game with that option.
Now I want the developers of every game ever to explain why they didn't include it.
 

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Explain why it doesn't have a colorblind option?
Honestly I don't think I've seen any game with that option.
Now I want the developers of every game ever to explain why they didn't include it.

wut?

it didn't needed one since apparently you can tell what's what regardless of color

also both pillows has it and I always turn it on; I like blue circles better than green ones
 

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Dead State Divinity: Original Sin
It's $1
After the pass ended, there's no reason to extend the sub.
 

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