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The Outer Worlds: Spacer's Choice Edition - Obsidian's first-person sci-fi RPG set in a corporate space colony

ItsChon

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
What agenda? Not wanting to get in trouble with media because some retard codexer decides to make a character named Hitler and proceed to kill all the short haired women and minorities? This forum is literally living proof that a company with any awareness about potential publicity consequences has to do this kind of shit.
The issue is that if a company is willing to give in to media and public outcry over something as fucking random and inconsequential as this, imagine all the other shit that they'll secede because they have no backbone. Forget interesting storylines, nuanced characters that, god forbid, display traits that could be perceived as sexist, racist, homophobic, or do horrible things such as rape and pillage. We've already seen the decline effect RPGs, and this concession by the company is just another step towards complete and utter censorship. But you're such a fucking retarded shill that you can't see the writing before your very eyes.
 

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What agenda? Not wanting to get in trouble with media because some retard codexer decides to make a character named Hitler and proceed to kill all the short haired women and minorities? This forum is literally living proof that a company with any awareness about potential publicity consequences has to do this kind of shit.

I find it extremely unlikely that they’d get in trouble because someone picked an offensive name in a single-player game. It’s just a bit of really bizarre nannying.
 

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What agenda? Not wanting to get in trouble with media because some retard codexer decides to make a character named Hitler and proceed to kill all the short haired women and minorities? This forum is literally living proof that a company with any awareness about potential publicity consequences has to do this kind of shit.

I find it extremely unlikely that they’d get in trouble because someone picked an offensive name in a single-player game. It’s just a bit of really bizarre nannying.

You obviously don't live in America. We have mass shooting blamed on video games. We have games getting bad press because you can kill a woman in a video game. Journalism and twitter drama is really bad right now. I don't blame anyone for playing it safe.
 

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What agenda? Not wanting to get in trouble with media because some retard codexer decides to make a character named Hitler and proceed to kill all the short haired women and minorities? This forum is literally living proof that a company with any awareness about potential publicity consequences has to do this kind of shit.
The issue is that if a company is willing to give in to media and public outcry over something as fucking random and inconsequential as this, imagine all the other shit that they'll secede because they have no backbone. Forget interesting storylines, nuanced characters that, god forbid, display traits that could be perceived as sexist, racist, homophobic, or do horrible things such as rape and pillage. We've already seen the decline effect RPGs, and this concession by the company is just another step towards complete and utter censorship. But you're such a fucking retarded shill that you can't see the writing before your very eyes.

Imagine expecting corporations to put ethics over profit.
 
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What agenda? Not wanting to get in trouble with media because some retard codexer decides to make a character named Hitler and proceed to kill all the short haired women and minorities? This forum is literally living proof that a company with any awareness about potential publicity consequences has to do this kind of shit.
The issue is that if a company is willing to give in to media and public outcry over something as fucking random and inconsequential as this, imagine all the other shit that they'll secede because they have no backbone. Forget interesting storylines, nuanced characters that, god forbid, display traits that could be perceived as sexist, racist, homophobic, or do horrible things such as rape and pillage. We've already seen the decline effect RPGs, and this concession by the company is just another step towards complete and utter censorship. But you're such a fucking retarded shill that you can't see the writing before your very eyes.

Imagine expecting corporations to put ethics over profit.
Their (((ethics))) will result in a crash in profits given their puritanical restraint on artistic freedom and coherent worldbuilding.
 

SkiNNyBane

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What agenda? Not wanting to get in trouble with media because some retard codexer decides to make a character named Hitler and proceed to kill all the short haired women and minorities? This forum is literally living proof that a company with any awareness about potential publicity consequences has to do this kind of shit.
The issue is that if a company is willing to give in to media and public outcry over something as fucking random and inconsequential as this, imagine all the other shit that they'll secede because they have no backbone. Forget interesting storylines, nuanced characters that, god forbid, display traits that could be perceived as sexist, racist, homophobic, or do horrible things such as rape and pillage. We've already seen the decline effect RPGs, and this concession by the company is just another step towards complete and utter censorship. But you're such a fucking retarded shill that you can't see the writing before your very eyes.

Imagine expecting corporations to put ethics over profit.
Their (((ethics))) will result in a crash in profits given their puritanical restraint on artistic freedom and coherent worldbuilding.

Well clearly it makes financial sense for now since they are doing it, and they will stop when it won't. Most people don't think like (((codex degenerates))) tho.
 

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Bubbles In Memoria
You can generalise it to cult personality bullshit in general. People who think this way are the same retards who unironically think that elon musk is literally iron man or that steve jobs wasn't a hippy retard taking advantage of his friend etc...

To an extent. Yet there still are creative people who undeniably do their own thing in a particular way. It’s a continuum, books are most obviously products of a single mind, larger productions less so. Saying that individual creativity doesn’t matter is as much a fallacy as its opposite.

No yea but projects of this nature involve fuck ton more creative work then a few people can do. Sometimes it comes down to not even the individual creative people but the sanity feedback provided by the team. E,g you present some mechanic to the team and if the team is good, they immediately tell you if you are full of shit or not. Even the people that have some good ideas have plenty of shitty once. If they reach celebrity status, their bad ideas may actually start being implemented without pushback.

Except when a single amphetamine-enhanced man does it all on his own.

"After 1971 he [Erdős] also took amphetamines, despite the concern of his friends, one of whom (Ron Graham) bet him $500 that he could not stop taking the drug for a month. Erdős won the bet, but complained that during his abstinence, mathematics had been set back by a month: "Before, when I looked at a piece of blank paper my mind was filled with ideas. Now all I see is a blank piece of paper." After he won the bet, he promptly resumed his amphetamine use."

What is your Erdős number?
 

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Imagine expecting corporations to put ethics over profit.
More shilling. If you really think anyone will ever not buy this game because a streamer that they may or may not see may or may not put a racial slur in their name, holy fuck.

Zombra This is why we need a fucking kill your self button.

It's more about getting good reviews, and managing trade mark etc... Reducing it to some teenager not giving a fuck is some pepega analysis.
 

SkiNNyBane

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You can generalise it to cult personality bullshit in general. People who think this way are the same retards who unironically think that elon musk is literally iron man or that steve jobs wasn't a hippy retard taking advantage of his friend etc...

To an extent. Yet there still are creative people who undeniably do their own thing in a particular way. It’s a continuum, books are most obviously products of a single mind, larger productions less so. Saying that individual creativity doesn’t matter is as much a fallacy as its opposite.

No yea but projects of this nature involve fuck ton more creative work then a few people can do. Sometimes it comes down to not even the individual creative people but the sanity feedback provided by the team. E,g you present some mechanic to the team and if the team is good, they immediately tell you if you are full of shit or not. Even the people that have some good ideas have plenty of shitty once. If they reach celebrity status, their bad ideas may actually start being implemented without pushback.

Except when a single amphetamine-enhanced man does it all on his own.

"After 1971 he [Erdős] also took amphetamines, despite the concern of his friends, one of whom (Ron Graham) bet him $500 that he could not stop taking the drug for a month. Erdős won the bet, but complained that during his abstinence, mathematics had been set back by a month: "Before, when I looked at a piece of blank paper my mind was filled with ideas. Now all I see is a blank piece of paper." After he won the bet, he promptly resumed his amphetamine use."

What is your Erdős number?

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Well clearly it makes financial sense for now since they are doing it, and they will stop when it won't. Most people don't think like (((codex degenerates))) tho.
Or rather they are quite deluded and do not realize the negative impact of these measures. Just like TV, you can make people watch shit and enjoy it, but a quality production could attract even more people and become a cultural symbol shared equally between classes.

Game devs nowadays are alienating people who care about quality by sticking to their SJW agenda. Are sales still alright for a lot of games? Certainly, but they could've been even better and might've left a cultural impact had they not been a product of pure ideology.
 

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Played through Edgewater > Groundbreaker > beginning of Roseway and I gotta agree that so far the story lacks excitement, fails to motivate the player, in other words the bland trend continues which they adopted with pillows one. I'm not hopeful if it'll pick up.

Well, Roseway's main questline was very good, a lot of options through out, never locking you into one outcome till the very end.
 

SkiNNyBane

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Well clearly it makes financial sense for now since they are doing it, and they will stop when it won't. Most people don't think like (((codex degenerates))) tho.
Or rather they are quite deluded and do not realize the negative impact of these measures. Just like TV, you can make people watch shit and enjoy it, but a quality production could attract even more people and become a cultural symbol shared equally between classes.

Game devs nowadays are alienating people who care about quality by sticking to their SJW agenda. Are sales still alright for a lot of games? Certainly, but they could've been even better and might've left a cultural impact had they not been a product of pure ideology.

Unlike (((Magnat))) they do actual market research instead of pulling shit out of their ass on a forum.
 

Prime Junta

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Big studios seem to be continuously fumbling these days. BioWare has two mega flops in a row. Obsidian flopped with Deadfire and now produced this mediocrity. Beth flops so bad I completely forgot them.

I guess Ass Creed: Odyssey did OK commercially but it felt boring AF compared to Origins, which only barely clawed itself into the “sort of worth playing” rank.

If Cyberjunk flops it’ll be all up to the indies to keep the fire burning.
 
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Well clearly it makes financial sense for now since they are doing it, and they will stop when it won't. Most people don't think like (((codex degenerates))) tho.
Or rather they are quite deluded and do not realize the negative impact of these measures. Just like TV, you can make people watch shit and enjoy it, but a quality production could attract even more people and become a cultural symbol shared equally between classes.

Game devs nowadays are alienating people who care about quality by sticking to their SJW agenda. Are sales still alright for a lot of games? Certainly, but they could've been even better and might've left a cultural impact had they not been a product of pure ideology.

Unlike (((Magnat))) they do actual market research instead of pulling shit out of their ass on a forum.
Here. Some non-codexians are also angry: https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/dnntsh/the_outer_worlds_censors_a_long_list_of_names/
 

SkiNNyBane

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Big studios seem to be continuously fumbling these days. BioWare has two mega flops in a row. Obsidian flopped with Deadfire and now produced this mediocrity. I guess Ass Creed: Odyssey did OK commercially but it felt boring AF compared to Origins, which only barely clawed itself into the “sort of worth playing” rank.

If Cyberjunk flops it’ll be all up to the indies to keep the fire burning.

Black Panther (a pretty mediocre movie) made one billion. They know what they are doing.
 

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Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture
Unlike (((Magnat))) they do actual market research instead of pulling shit out of their ass on a forum.

And after this research game ended up:
1) Paid in advance by Epic
2) Available in 1$ game pass (for installing last version of Win 10 to improve MS statistics).

It is like nobody even tried to generate revenue by selling it to actual people.
 

SkiNNyBane

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Well clearly it makes financial sense for now since they are doing it, and they will stop when it won't. Most people don't think like (((codex degenerates))) tho.
Or rather they are quite deluded and do not realize the negative impact of these measures. Just like TV, you can make people watch shit and enjoy it, but a quality production could attract even more people and become a cultural symbol shared equally between classes.

Game devs nowadays are alienating people who care about quality by sticking to their SJW agenda. Are sales still alright for a lot of games? Certainly, but they could've been even better and might've left a cultural impact had they not been a product of pure ideology.

Unlike (((Magnat))) they do actual market research instead of pulling shit out of their ass on a forum.
Here. Some non-codexians are also angry: https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/dnntsh/the_outer_worlds_censors_a_long_list_of_names/

Gamers being snowflakes what else is new.
 

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