The Secret World

[Sykar]

Have not played one in ages so I guess. Do they also offer P2W stuff or cosmetics/fluff only?

 

[bozia2012]

F2P works because people are dumb. Even if you know how this system works, you will still fall for it. Some will singlehandedly support 2 fulltime devs.

So until people stay dumb, F2P is the way to go.

But anyway, nothing will change the fact that even in an era where you can easily copy anything, games become lost media before our eyes.

 

[Sykar]

Depends on what you mean "fall for it". I have spent far less on F2P games than games like WoW by a country mile.

 

[bozia2012]

Depends on what you mean "fall for it". I have spent far less on F2P games than games like WoW by a country mile.

For every person like you, there's a person that wouldn't spend any money on WoW (but spent some in F2P) and a person whose mind is short circuited by how MTX are laid out (smaller payments, for stuff that looks better than normal items or makes the grind easier, hidden by in-store currency). That's why F2P works.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

F2P works because 1% of people pay for the other 99% by being whales. It's actually a model that favors poorer people unless it's pay2win.

 

[Zombra]

If "falling for it" means paying $10 in a year buying a unique hat because I wanted to show a little support, instead of having 14.95 x 12 = $179.40 auto-drained from my bank account because I subscribed to a game and kind of forgot about it, and then not being able to even play any more once I shut the sub off, count me in as delighted to be one of the fools who fell for the F2P model.

 

[Delterius]

F2P works because 1% of people pay for the other 99% by being whales. It's actually a model that favors poorer people unless it's pay2win.

The thing is that price tags also create expectations. Subscription is something that is seen as the privilege of 'AAA' mmos. If Secret World required subscription today most people would just look at the graphics and tune out.

 

[bozia2012]

Some of those whales are defaulting. I bet that's the cost you're willing to take xdddd

It's not even the F2P, but excessive MTX - but I'm biased, I learned the hard way to stay out of games with MTX.

people would just look at the graphics and tune out

Because it's not cartoony furry shit.

 

[Delterius]

Because it's not cartoony furry shit.

Because they are not very good.

 

[hello friend]

Never come across anthing in the wild before that so closely matches the feel of The Secret World:

 

[infidel]

I've watched the Moons of Madness LP and since it's set in 2063 or so, we can safely assume that the Dreamers were thwarted to a degree in 2012. The ending suggests that the player even manages to kill a couple of them. The end credits list two familiar names, Scriv is in the writers list and Simon Poole is on the music, nice to see them. But since I was still hazy on what exactly happens in TSW (and I still haven't completed Tokyo, maybe one of these days) I've googled and found this great longread on what happened how and when:
https://villains.fandom.com/wiki/The_Dreamers
Moreover, from the cursory glance it looks like they have a few dozen good articles on other characters and factions of the game:
https://villains.fandom.com/wiki/Category:The_Secret_World_Villains

 

[Delterius]

its hard to take moons of madness seriously as a part of secret world because it seems the entire game wasn't made with secret world in mind. they bought an ongoing development and then slapped the right logos and lore tidbits all over the place.

 

[Popiel]

I started to play it some time ago, 28 lvl right now, still in Blue Mountain, going with a Templar. It's a funny game, basically a bunch of popculture-occult stereotypes merged together.

 

[infidel]

I think it's more of a consequence of the whole approach. They don't have the budget for big games, so The Park and Moons of Madness-like games is all we're getting until they get back on their feet (if at all). You can tell a gajillion of small stories in the same universe using UE and whatever team you can fund. Judging by the amount of reviews, these two did well enough. Where they've failed is at setting up small teams to produce new content for their MMOs like DCUO, STO, LOTRO and DDO all managed to do. Plus the botched F2P relaunch. Conan Exiles was a big hit for them at 54k reviews so I'm guessing that's the main thing that keeps them afloat now and gets the most attention.

 

[bylam]

We got bought by Tencent, infidel so we have money. Dune is a massive focus for us right now.

 

[hello friend]

Put some of that tencent cash into more real content for secret world. Når du er gamal og grå vil du kunna sjå tilbake på eit liv vellevd, det er den rette tingen å gjera!

 

[Delterius]

Secret World open urban fantasy rpg when

 

[bylam]

Put some of that tencent cash into more real content for secret world. Når du er gamal og grå vil du kunna sjå tilbake på eit liv vellevd, det er den rette tingen å gjera!

If only it was my decision where to spend money ever.

 

[anvi]

We got bought by Tencent, infidel so we have money. Dune is a massive focus for us right now.

You had money for AOC and TSW too, you guys just suck as devs. I bet you fuck up Dune like everything else you ever did! Any sensible company would stop trying to pretend they can make an MMO with such a low budget and lack of talent. Focus on mobile apps.

 

[bylam]

"If Funcom still exists in a year, I'll be amazed."

 

[Zombra]

I bet you fuck up Dune like everything else you ever did!

I enjoyed running around shooting creatures and doing quests, it was aight.

 

[infidel]

We got bought by Tencent, infidel so we have money. Dune is a massive focus for us right now.

Not a big fan of Dune but I do hope you guys'll get back to TSW seriously at some point.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Dune x TSW crossover when

 

[anvi]

I bet you fuck up Dune like everything else you ever did!

I enjoyed running around shooting creatures and doing quests, it was aight.

Playing it for a few nights over Halloween doesn't make it a worthwhile game. It's still 0.1% of the game EQ is. Why do you even care about it? It's an ok single player FPS/RPG stretched into a shitty MMO. It doesn't deserve your fanboyism.

 

[Zombra]

IT'S NOT EVERQUEST!

Absolutely no one is trying to make Everquest. I know it's hard to accept but some day you have to move on friend.