Ultima The Ultima Underworld I & II Thread

[danilopiazza]

Completed game, got a lot of fun. Bread of Cure Poison and Ale of Lesser Heal are probably less known items in the game.

I remember finding out about the Ale of Lesser Heal by drinking it and noticing it healed me.

Spoiler

It is located in the western part of level 1, just outside the Imp's room.

But where is the Bread of Cure Poison? Now I am going to try and stack every single loaf of bread on top of the other loaves... (or just OWY'ing them).

 

[Unkillable Cat]

This is one of the things that amazes me about the Underworld games to this day: People are STILL finding something new in them, almost 25 years after their release.

Underworld 2 has loads more of these bizarre little items.

 

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Someone should really write a list of all in game items.
There's pretty much nothing on the Internet.

 

[Unkillable Cat]

Without extracting the data straight from the files, that's going to be a daunting task because of how the Lore skill works.

When you Look at an item, two skillchecks are made: A Detect Magic check (game tells you that the item is magical) and an Identify check (game tells you precisely what kind of item it is) against your Lore skill. However, both skillchecks are made against your current Lore stat. If either check fails, there is no further skillcheck until the Lore stat is raised, in which case another check is made.

However, Lore 30 (the maximum) does not guarantee 100% success for either roll (though the Detect Magic check is extremely likely to succeed) and therein lies the problem. Fowyr can probably tell us how to hexedit a Lore 30 stat into a fresh character, but if the skillcheck roll fails, you're not going to learn anything for the rest of the game.

In other words, even with a maxed-out Lore skill you may miss out on magical items.

That may be the reason why not even the Ultima Dragons (a fairly organized fanbase) have done this.

Stacking items helps to spot the magical items, but have fun picking up EVERY item in the game and stacking it with similar ones...and that's before we get to the unstackable items.

It'll take untold amount of man-hours to pull off, not to mention Minecraft-esque levels of autism.

I think we're better off pestering Otherside Entertainment to release the source code for the Underworld games (they have it).

 

[aweigh]

only in the codex does a flame war erupt over whether or not crouch-jumping constitutes parkour

 

[Fowyr]

But where is the Bread of Cure Poison? Now I am going to try and stack every single loaf of bread on top of the other loaves...

I maaaade it! Due to "too many items" bug.
I think it's on level 8 (or, less probable on 7) somewhere in SW or NW corner.

 

[Doctor Sbaitso]

Someone should really write a list of all in game items.
There's pretty much nothing on the Internet.

Fowyr you have been messing about with the innards. Can you extract a list of item descriptions?

 

[Doctor Sbaitso]

only in the codex does a flame war erupt over whether or not crouch-jumping constitutes parkour

You have a very low watermark for 'flame war'.

 

[aweigh]

i blame it on the amount of time i've spent posting on the jrpg sub-forum recently. no flame wars over there ever, so when i do read threads on this forum and see people calling each other retard and the like it's a bit surprising.

 

[Unkillable Cat]

i blame it on the amount of time i've spent posting on the jrpg sub-forum recently.

 

[Fowyr]

Fowyr you have been messing about with the innards. Can you extract a list of item descriptions?

I quick checked it, probably not. My unpackers can't unpack exe and files in DATA don't have text. Even then you could find only item suffixes. You should remember how I tinkered with items somewhere in this thread. Some from these 16 bytes could make absolutely inane shit like Coin of Jumping.

 

[aweigh]

Unkillable Cat

 

[Ash]

^what's the name of that film? Pretty sure it's a classic Jackie Chan romp.
I need to go on another HK cinema binge. Best content for action junkies.

Why has a mouselook mod not been made for UW 1/2? For such legendary games they do not get their just desserts. Too hardcore, too intelligent, and too progressive for a big bunch of the PC gaming tards out there.

Spoiler

*Signs out to go play some Doom*

 

[Doctor Sbaitso]

Unpack the data files as you can and use this: https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897439

 

[aweigh]

jackie chan's dragons forever, directed by sammo hong who also stars in it. a fun bit of trivia: the actor from that gif, who is the antagonist in the movie, used to be bruce lee's go-to stunt double.

 

[Fowyr]

Unpack the data files as you can and use this: https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897439

Downloadan.
Albeit no one used Unicode back in the times.
UUW developers were very fond of XOR, though. Start of save games (where stats, skills and unspent points are) XORed by character's name.

 

[Doctor Sbaitso]

Yeah, why not eh? Simple obfuscation for the casual poker.

 

[Neki]

Gotta love that game.

Was playing last night,after an epic battle against those of worms i manage to die to an spider.

There is an axe better than the Battle axe?The damage is good but the charge time is too slow for my tastes.

 

[Doctor Sbaitso]

I thought there was a higher damaging axe than the Battle Axe but I was wrong. There is a jeweled axe that does slightly less damage but swings faster.

Highest damage melee weapon the UW is the highest tier mace.

 

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I'm replaying the game right now (the last time I abandoned it when I was on the third level).
Do you know if there are some ways to add items to the inventory (maybe a save editor?)?
I accidentally dropped the recipe for the rotworm stew, and I don't have a previous save in which I still have the scroll.

 

[Neki]

I'm replaying the game right now (the last time I abandoned it when I was on the third level).
Do you know if there are some ways to add items to the inventory (maybe a save editor?)?
I accidentally dropped the recipe for the rotworm stew, and I don't have a previous save in which I still have the scroll.

You shoud be able to pick if you didn't dropped on lava.
Items will stay in the drop point till you pick them up(or destroy them)

 

[Unkillable Cat]

He could have thrown it into water, which also destroys it.

Vital quest items for completing the game will not get destroyed, no matter where you drop them. Sadly the Rotworm stew recipe is only needed to get an Item of Interest, not a quest item.

As for --- predicament - adapt or die. Now you can't walk on lava like a boss. Improvise. The game allows for it.

 

[Neki]

I think you can get it back if you are fast and have the swimming skill.
Never tested though

 

[Unkillable Cat]

...I'm in Oktoberfest mode right now, but even I think that's preposterous.

Once a (non-vital) item hits the water, it's gone for good. Not even a pile of ash that shares its properties remains. Bye-bye.

 

[Neki]

...I'm in Oktoberfest mode right now, but even I think that's preposterous.

Once a (non-vital) item hits the water, it's gone for good. Not even a pile of ash that shares its properties remains. Bye-bye.

Yep,Just tested.

Anyway,you can beat the game without it.I never knew that the recipe existed till my 2 or 3 playthrough.