Wasteland The Wasteland 2 Beta Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Invictus]

Oh and the beta testing for free...

 

[Infinitron]

Teaser trailer:

 

[Kem0sabe]

Are there any energy weapons in the Beta?

a blast from the past! !

That UI is so much better.

 

[Sensuki]

I'm surprised it's possible to regress on stuff like UI. But there you go - it is.

 

[Infinitron]

I'm surprised it's possible to regress on stuff like UI. But there you go - it is.

The UI in that GIF was a mockup by St. Toxic. It was never in the game.

 

[aratuk]

Are there any energy weapons in the Beta?

At least one.

 

[MrBuzzKill]

Hey people who played the game. Is there GORE in it? I was kind of disappointed when I watched the LPs and saw the death animations - just a spray of blood, a blood puddle, and a body that falls down. In my heart I know there are no cool death animations in the game, but I still cling to the hope they will include them in the final release. For me, death animations in Fallout & Tactics were one of the reasons why it was so fun to play.

 

[Jedi Master Radek]

When do you think WL2 will release now? Given that the beta still needs alot of work? Late 2014?

On their store it is written that "in next few months". We really need to always make sure that Fargo knows he can take his time. If I understand correctly all Your feedback, this game if given enough love, can shape up as well as was promised. -We should ostracize anybody who says that Wasteland will be released earlier than October 2014. It will give Fargo a good sign.

 

[Sensuki]

The UI in that GIF was a mockup by St. Toxic. It was never in the game.

Aint that the one from the video in the Inventory update? It had yellow coloring like that.

 

[Infinitron]

The UI in that GIF was a mockup by St. Toxic. It was never in the game.

Aint that the one from the video in the Inventory update? It had yellow coloring like that.

The graphics are the same, but St. Toxic changed it up and moved stuff around.

 

[AstroZombie]

They showed the steam page on the trailer that is featured on the game's steam page.

 

[Sensuki]

Oh right, must have forgotten/missed that. I preferred all of their OLD UI's better than the new ones.

 

[undecaf]

Hey people who played the game. Is there GORE in it?

Not on that level as far I've seen. Hopefully there will be, or that eventually mods'll fix it.

 

[FeelTheRads]

There should be. They said there will 15-20 animations per skill.

 

[Sensuki]

Perhaps that was optimism, or that there are 15 different skill animations (across all of them).

 

[felipepepe]

Most skills use the exact same animation... the exception is the brute strength, that has 2 different animations, for doors and for levering stuff.

 

[FeelTheRads]

Nah, I'm just still obsessed with one of the motivations they had for not including stances: they have 15-20 animations per skill so using skills from a different stance would need more animations.

 

[Infinitron]

Wasteland 2 isn't going to have Fallout-style detailed/prefabricated death animations, although generic 3D gore and gib explosions are a possibility I suppose.

15-20 animations per skill

Did they ever actually use these words? This sounds like a misunderstanding that you're propagating.

 

[FeelTheRads]

Did they ever actually use these words? This sounds like a misunderstanding that you're propagating.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/inxile/wasteland-2/posts/597376

Edit: I hope they fix the camera clipping since weapons clipping through the props was a big issue with stances as well.

 

[Sensuki]

Ninja'd

Each weapon has firing, jamming, equip/unequip, reloading, aim up/down, multiple player damages from that pose (i.e light, medium, heavy, crits) plus all of the blends in and out that make them smooth from different player states. In all it turns into around 15-20 animations per skill, per stance. Finally, there would be visual issues from our 6 foot tall rangers with a 3 foot long sniper rifle lying prone. Weapons would clip through the world props all over the place. As we continue iterating and polishing, we will evaluate all options as they are available, but as you can see, this is not a particularly easy decision to make.

That sounds like weapon animations though rather than skill animations.

 

[Infinitron]

That sounds like weapon animations though rather than skill animations.

Or equivalently, weapon skill animations. Of course, I don't know whether those have "15-20 animations" either. Could be that they're using some kind of esoteric definition of "animations". Or maybe that sentence is just fucked up.

Brother None?

 

[Jedi Master Radek]

Now Wasteland 2 is 4th on the steam bestseller list.

Also we have info about the first patch:

Our Steam build was updated today to version #28396. This was a small fix for a few minor annoyances, as we're working towards larger patches later to fix the most commonly reported bugs and the game's performance issues.

- Fixed rocket launchers
- Tweaked combat grid & nav mesh in Wrecking Crew Stronghold to prevent a Raider being isolated and stuck during combat
- Bashable fences persist between game loads
- Turned off blue debug combat grid

 

[AN4RCHID]

Wat, seriously? Sixty American USD Dollars ? I assume the finished game will cost less than this, so why are they selling the bug ridden demo for such an exorbitant price? Is this common practice for Early Access games?

 

[Zombra]

So if I shoot twice in one turn, the shots are simultaneous? Like, I pull the trigger with two fingers and two bullets come out?

~abstraction~

Eh. So we can abstract a guy making two nonsimultaneous overhand swings with a sledgehammer, but we can't abstract a guy taking two steps and then aiming and firing a pistol? That seems like changing the model to fit your desired outcome.

As for the gameplay argument, re: interesting choices, that does hold water to a point, but it kind of sucks in a variable AP system. If Character A has 3 AP and fires his pistol for 3AP, and Character B has 5 AP and wants to fire his pistol for 3 AP, why should he be penalized for using his other 2 AP to move? This creates a situation where faster characters are, on the average, worse at attacking.

 

[AstroZombie]

Wat, seriously? Sixty American USD Dollars ? I assume the finished game will cost less than this, so why are they selling the bug ridden demo for such an exorbitant price? Is this common practice for Early Access games?

Backers had to pay at least $55 to get beta access and they don't want to screw their backers, it's as simple as that.