VentilatorOfDoom said:
commie said:
Awor Szurkrarz said:
I don't think I'll buy any CD-Project game again. I don't buy from child-abusing monsters.
But you don't have any money to buy games anyway, so what's the difference?*
* Reference to the Indie game thread where Awor was too poor to pay $10.......
Too poor to pay $10? And that despite the fact that his father owes him, his mother owes him support, the society owes him welfare and developers owe him free games? It breaks my heart. Why so poor? Must have something to do with not being a nerd but a kickass hooligan and whatnot.
Commie is just having some retarded delusions about me since I told him that people in some countries don't earn 20$ for a hour of working in Mc Donalds after he talked about how people download unauthorized copies despite being able to earn that kind of money just by an hour of burger flipping and after I disagreed with his copyrightpedo talk about how copying a game is like stealing a car.
I never said that I'm too poor to buy an indie game for 10$. I said that the prices of work are too low here for me to buy a subpar indie game that costs 25$ or 15GBP. These games are priced to be much less expensive than higher budget games developed by large teams (like Fallout and Fallout 2 for example) to balance their subpar quality. They are no longer cheap for me since everything costs 3x (or even 6x judging by how there are places where burger-flippers earn ) more work here and people usually buy games when they cost about 50PLN (15$), not for full price and indies almost never decrease price.
In contrast to his delusions, in reality I usually don't play pirate games except for abandonware and I collect original vintage games and I buy new wargames. I bought Command Ops: Battles from the Bulge, Tac Ops and Warship Combat:Navies at War (I regret buying the latter - I bought it on a recommendation without playing a demo - something that I shouldn't do) and several vintage games including Ultima V this year.
Me recognizing that I'm not the target audience of the indies and not accepting their offer which isn't directed to me in the first place or defending the south american kkkodex squad from his ignorant accusations doesn't mean that I'm some super-pirate or don't have money for anything like Commie seems to imagine.
Also, dude, didn't I donate 15$ for the Codex this year?
All earned with my own hard work done in my free time after college. Of course having the costs of the college covered by a scholarship in the last year has helped a lot. Now I really rarely have cash to spend on stuff but I still support the artists and causes that I like from it.
And as for my relationship with CD-Projekt - I was buying games from them since 1996 and bought Fallout, Fallout 2, BG series, PST, ID series for full price. Then I was buying various older games from them as I don't have a computer capable of running newest games any more.
VentilatorOfDoom said:
the society owes him welfare
To be honest, I'd rather not have 50+% taxes than have welfare, but since these taxes aren't going away, yes the state does owe us some a financial safety network, since it takes away the money that normally would be used to create our own.
Burning Bridges said:
If mothers want to get rid of unwanted children they can get an abortion, or if they missed that, comfortably dispose them in a baby hatch. But fathers, no matter if they want or not, must pay for their own chldren until they are almost 30, their ex spouses, even someone else's children if they are unlucky. In many cases all they ever going to see from their children are payment requests. In fact, states make sure that everyone is entitled for support from family members (99% fathers) whenever possible .. not because it is right, but because that way the public budget can save a lot of money.
Abortion is illegal in Poland unless the life of the mother is threatened. Also, how about fathers who want the child to be born, profess undying love for the mother, promise marriage and sleep with other women and marry some other women while the mother is pregnant, like my father did?
We're not talking about some sick case where a woman cheats or is abusive and virtuous father loses child and has to pay alimony for the child and the woman because the family court Hates Moral Clarity or he just had a brief fling with a mother and then proposed paying for abortion and she refused dooming him to paying child support for a child that he didn't even want to be born.
It's a classical sick case of a guy being a lying cheat and promise-breaker.
A real man is honourable - he's faithful and keeps his word and cares for his family. If the union falls apart due to dishonourability of either side, the dishonourable side should be the one that pays the alimony and the honourable side should be the one that brings up the child.
Later my mother learned that he not only was cheating her with a lot of other women, but he was also borrowing large sums of money from people with no intention of returning them. Generally, I don't like people who earn their living by fucking over other people.
Ironically, he later had a debt-collecting company
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Burning Bridges said:
In my opinion no one should be forced pay alimony. You hit the nail on the head, by asking, what, actually, have you done for your father?. If the answer is nothing, then that's what he owes you. I mean, don't get me wrong, of course fathers should take care, and having a great relationship with your father is a wonderful thing. But great gifts as this should not be demanded as a matter of course, and in our culture the generosity of fathers is already shamelessly capitalized on, with absolutely nothing given in return.
You mean he decided that I'm never going to return any favour to him before I was born? Are you serious? Kids generally pay back to their parents when parents grow very old and can't work any more, not before they are born. I'll gladly put 400 PLN x 2 for his monthly support together with his 12 other children. I think it's going to be something like 60 PLN. Sadly, I won't be able to return income-hiding and writing lies to the court, so we're not going to be really even.
Burning Bridges said:
Apart from the financial aspect, I can somehow understand that AS is angry when most others have been lucky to have a father that cares for them. But have you really tried to get in contact with your father, and get to know him as a person, not only as a debitor?
Yes. I have mixed feelings for him.
In this case for instance some people are raging because they might get a 1000$ fine if they pirate the game. Decent anti-piracy measures always cause problems of some sort to pirates, even if it's only forcing them to wait two weeks to play some game.
