The Witcher The Witcher IV - The Ciri Saga Begins

[Riddler]

Wasn't it explained in the books (or was it the games? I forget) that Witchers aren't even needed anymore anyway due to the advances in technology, magic and formation of professional armies and monster extermination teams? Iirc witchers were created out of desperation following the conjunction of spheres, which just flooded the world with magic, monsters, and even worse, elves.
So give it a couple of decades or so and you could probably have a fairly successful non-witcher monster hunter, using a combination of tools and alchemy. Basically fantasy monster-hunter batman with a blunderbus loaded with sanctified silver flechettes.

But naaaah that would be interesting. Easier to just mimic Disney and shove a chick in it and make her gay.

Also monsters are dying out. It's been said a few times before in this thread, but even during Witcher 3 it was well past waning, so by the time of Witcher 4, Ciri is just going to be some loon desperately asking people for monsters to slay.

Of course, they could just do the stupid thing and be like "x happened, and now there's monsters everywhere again!"

Hasn't X already happened in W3? Wasn't there another conjunction of the spheres?

 

[CthuluIsSpy]

Wasn't it explained in the books (or was it the games? I forget) that Witchers aren't even needed anymore anyway due to the advances in technology, magic and formation of professional armies and monster extermination teams? Iirc witchers were created out of desperation following the conjunction of spheres, which just flooded the world with magic, monsters, and even worse, elves.
So give it a couple of decades or so and you could probably have a fairly successful non-witcher monster hunter, using a combination of tools and alchemy. Basically fantasy monster-hunter batman with a blunderbus loaded with sanctified silver flechettes.

But naaaah that would be interesting. Easier to just mimic Disney and shove a chick in it and make her gay.

Also monsters are dying out. It's been said a few times before in this thread, but even during Witcher 3 it was well past waning, so by the time of Witcher 4, Ciri is just going to be some loon desperately asking people for monsters to slay.

Of course, they could just do the stupid thing and be like "x happened, and now there's monsters everywhere again!"

Hasn't X already happened in W3? Wasn't there another conjunction of the spheres?

Kind of. There was going to be, but it got stopped. It was less of a case of monsters spawning and more like the vision in Witcher 1 anyway with the world destroying ice age.

 

[Daemongar]

I have all 3 Witcher games. Played W1 a couple times, played 60% of W2 a couple times, started W3 quite a few times. I don't really care all that much about the franchise as I thought the first was great, but I didn't really click with the follow ups.

That said, this is really a striking example of a big flaw in AAA games. They are creating a game that may take 3-5 years to produce with today's politics in mind. Kind of like all the current year failures, these games were developed and they guessed (wrongly) that they would align with current year cultural attitudes.

That's why Deus Ex always feels like a timeless game: they steered clear of politics and kept the story about who would you trust more, those with older model cybernetic enhancements or folks with newer ones, and in the end you are more or less forced to identify with the guy (JC) with the newer enhancements, until the end where you run into a guy with even newer enhancements than you and you can't move on with the game until you kill him! The irony!

 

[Mikeal]

This is the same studio that employs troons and gives menstrual leave. This development was inevitable.

I know, but have found it absolutely bizarre, considering the studio is Polish. Eastern European people are not sheltered western cucks, Eastern Europe is absolutely brutal, I can't imagine how you become a virtue-signalling delusional cuck and survive.

Also, Eastern European women are some of the most egoistic, brazenly mercantile and unsophisticated women to walk the Earth, they destroy you the moment the sense any weakness and have no concept of loyalty. Here, the only way to surtive is to assume every woman is a self-interested worthless whore. Eastern European women are the type of women who would leave you if you lost a street fight, or even sprain your ankle, because they see you as weak and subhuman.

How can you become a woke moron, or even respect women, when living in such place? Absolutely bizarre.

Furthermore, women don't have the mentality needed for efficient conduct of fighting, battle, or war. Reflexes, pain tolerance, narrow focus on a singular target, strategic mindset, tactical mindset, reveling in the blood of your enemies, aggression - these all come with testosterone and balls.

Sadly, with declining testosterone levels, men have become increasingly incapable of any of the above. Soon, a man doing this will be just as fictional as a woman doing it.

Unfortunately we had a lot of (((gems))) in our commie regime, whom after PRL fell created a lot of media (TVN, Wyborcza) who kept shitting on Poland and traditional values.

 

[Tyranicon]

Hasn't X already happened in W3? Wasn't there another conjunction of the spheres?

If you're talking about the second conjunction that occured as part of the main plot, I think that was a very localized one and nowhere on the same scale as the first.

I wouldn't think it would be enough to put witchers in leather pants again, but who knows? They can write whatever they want.

 

[mondblut]

It would be pretty funny if Ciri fucked up and accidentally caused another conjunction of spheres with her dimension jumping bullshit.
Like she hops into some nightmare dimension, wakes up discount Cthulhu and he follows her home.

Wasn't she supposed to be the only solution against the heat death of the universe or something but chose to elope and leave the world to perish? That elven prophecy, eh?

The books themselves have changed the purpose of Ciri and what makes her so special for everyone so many times it's not even funny.

 

[Maxie]

It would be pretty funny if Ciri fucked up and accidentally caused another conjunction of spheres with her dimension jumping bullshit.
Like she hops into some nightmare dimension, wakes up discount Cthulhu and he follows her home.

Wasn't she supposed to be the only solution against the heat death of the universe or something but chose to elope and leave the world to perish? That elven prophecy, eh?

The books themselves have changed the purpose of Ciri and what makes her so special for everyone so many times it's not even funny.

The books are very subversive and the big spooky cataclysm is global freezing. The last few books have snippets from da future where people from da future comment that 'whoa it used to be real warm in the past apparently'

 

[Infinitron]

Of course, they could just do the stupid thing and be like "x happened, and now there's monsters everywhere again!"

The narration at the very beginning of Witcher 1 actually does this:

Plague and famine raged, the death toll unknown. A few surviving elven and dwarven units sought refuge admidst forest, where they prepared for a final, desperate fight. Abominable beasts ruled backwoods, highways, and former battlefields alike. In cities and villages, folk were left wondering: What had happened to the witchers?

Needed an explanation for why there are hordes of drowners everywhere unlike in the books!

 

[moon knight]

after it became less of cool monster hunter memoir.

None of the books short stories, except the very first one, are about monster hunting. There aren't even that many monster encounters.

I'm calling this now:

Notice that when Ciri is casting magic, she doesn't make the witcher's signs with hand. Instead her magic requires a physical connection to an element that serves as a conduit of the energy. I think CDPR will explain Ciri's becoming a Witcher as a special case, where she didn't undergo the full mutations and as a result is something of a half-witcher, with her magic functioning differently. This can potentially be expanded to explain her drinking a potion during combat, something in the lines of that potions wear off too fast on her.

It works like Yennefer explains in Blood of Elves. It seems that in terms of gameplay Ciri will be an hybrid between Witcher and Sorceress

 

[moon knight]

But naaaah that would be interesting.

It would be shit. The Witcher is literary fiction, it's about character driven stories. Not about monsters, lore, big evils and other american fantasy bullshit. Sapkowski always made up stuff to serve as a backdrop for the characters, he never even cared about making a map.

 

[jaekl]

Wow sounds like the real question is how did they even manage to make one good game out of these terrible books?

 

[Fedora Master]

But remember guys: Based Slavs will save gaming!

 

[jaekl]

But remember guys: Based Slavs will save gaming!

Unfortunately as soon as your company starts making a little money, the fat chicks show up to start leeching it away and ruin everything in the process. It's a worldwide scourge.

 

[Skinwalker]

That's why Deus Ex always feels like a timeless game: they steered clear of politics

 

[AwesomeButton]

Wow sounds like the real question is how did they even manage to make one good game out of these terrible books?

Witcher 3 is a masterpiece of writing and character depth compared to the shlock the old drunkard produced.

 

[Dark Souls II]

Wow sounds like the real question is how did they even manage to make one good game out of these terrible books?

The only good Witcher book is the first one, the short story collection. The rest is trash. And the good one is not even really good fantasy, like the Book of the New Sun for example, it's just okay.

 

[Skinwalker]

the Book of the New Sun

Reminds me that I need to start reading the "New Sun" cycle. Latro in the Mist series was so good.

 

[Naraya]

the Book of the New Sun

Reminds me that I need to start reading the "New Sun" cycle. Latro in the Mist series was so good.

Boy, I envy you so much. You're in for a real treat.

 

[Storyfag]

Decent job at trolling by Codex standards (poor trolling levels in general despite serious numbers). However next time choose the less silly and more recent claims and lies that weren't already abandoned even by their authors. Possibly even some that have some merit. The more authenticity the better troll. I mean, "hundred thousands visas to Pakis", that's a dead give away, that stuff was hilarious from the beginning and is so passe today.

It is still being investigated, the direct perpetrators await trial in jail.

 

[Frozen]

Ciri being the new "Witcher" creates a core problem beyond lore issues.

Geralt was always the Witcher, and everything related to that world was in a way connected and reflected through him as a catalyst.

Ciri was tied to "bigger" lore stuff, political intrigue, elder blood etc. Geralt connection helped her by using Witcher skills to survive but it was not all she was about.

Now if she is the Witcher it shrinks the scope of the world because we have no one to reflect and be a story focus for other world building stuff outside of being a Witcher.

Unless they bring in another "chosen one" kid whom she will now babysit and its even in story as I assume in gameplay God of War.

 

[Ryzer]

as I assume in gameplay God of War.

You wish.

 

[Storyfag]

It would be pretty funny if Ciri fucked up and accidentally caused another conjunction of spheres with her dimension jumping bullshit.
Like she hops into some nightmare dimension, wakes up discount Cthulhu and he follows her home.

TW3 basically HAS a second Conjunction happening. It is a side effect of the ritual to stop the White Frost. We see it on the Island of Undvik, but it is trivially easy to say that the effects were much more widespread.

 

[mondblut]

The books are very subversive and the big spooky cataclysm is global freezing. The last few books have snippets from da future where people from da future comment that 'whoa it used to be real warm in the past apparently'

Yeah, I remember. The cataclysmic "death of the world as we know it" from book 3 or so ended up a period of minor cooling. So much for prophecies

 

[Ryzer]

Do we know where Witcher 4 will take place? Is it going to be the shitty depressive Velen swamp again?

 

[Tyranicon]

It would be pretty funny if Ciri fucked up and accidentally caused another conjunction of spheres with her dimension jumping bullshit.
Like she hops into some nightmare dimension, wakes up discount Cthulhu and he follows her home.

TW3 basically HAS a second Conjunction happening. It is a side effect of the ritual to stop the White Frost. We see it on the Island of Undvik, but it is trivially easy to say that the effects were much more widespread.

So I looked it up. In the game you don't see much of it at all and it seems like a huge nothingburger, but according to the wiki, the fanfiction short stories added a bunch of shit including:

It was during the Second Conjunction when the majority of Aen Seidhe left the Continent and the World permanently.

Fuck yeah, the elves are gone, glorious

The side-effects: now there's a bunch of sea monsters.

Can't wait for Witcher 4: the Uber Drowner.