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The Witcher The Witcher IV - The Ciri Saga Begins

BruceVC

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Name a top notch game with a fixed female main character... I'll wait
Tomb Raider, Control , Resident Evil 3, Mirrors Edge and Alien Isolation. Its subjective if you like these games but they all entertaining

Its silly to suggest " you cant have a good game with a female protagonist " but thats not the same thing as having legitimate criticism around Ciri as the main character in W4
 

Tyranicon

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Name a top notch game with a fixed female main character... I'll wait
Tomb Raider, Control , Resident Evil 3, Mirrors Edge and Alien Isolation. Its subjective if you like these games but they all entertaining

Its silly to suggest " you cant have a good game with a female protagonist " but thats not the same thing as having legitimate criticism around Ciri as the main character in W4
Also, Homeworld 1 :smug:

But having three fixed female characters ruined Homeworld 3.
 

Lord_Potato

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I'd say if they weren't comfortable with a player-generated Witcher, Ciri does seem a natural choice. [...] So it was either character creation, or Ciri.
Not as a witcher. That's the whole reason we're even having this conversation to begin with. I did acknowledge why they picked her as the main character for the game, but it doesn't give developers any credit. Just my opinion though.
Yes, I'm also not entusiastic about her going through the Trial of Grass.
 

Wasteland

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They're okay but all of them are VASTLY inferior to the true king of fantasy today Joe Abercrombie. His First Law trilogy is the only bright flame of masculinity, grit and badassery in the rank darkness of gay, estrogen-laden YA garbage that is modern fantasy.

(He caught some flak from the usual suspects for not having enough stronk fehmule characters so in his next trilogy he rectified that "sin" but it's still better than everything else out there).
I had never heard of this guy, so just now I fired up my media piracy machine ... a 100% legitimate vendor website, and boy you weren't kidding about that last part. Here's a blurb from Red Country, which I believe is book four of First Law:

They burned her home.
They stole her brother and sister.
But vengeance is following.
Shy South hoped to bury her bloody past and ride away smiling, but she'll have to sharpen up some bad old ways to get her family back, and she's not a woman to flinch from what needs doing. She sets off in pursuit with only a pair of oxen and her cowardly old stepfather Lamb for company.
My decision to give up on fiction looks better every day.
 

dukeofwoodberry

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Name a top notch game with a fixed female main character... I'll wait
Tomb Raider, Control , Resident Evil 3, Mirrors Edge and Alien Isolation. Its subjective if you like these games but they all entertaining

Its silly to suggest " you cant have a good game with a female protagonist " but thats not the same thing as having legitimate criticism around Ciri as the main character in W4
None of those games minus possibly RE3 are top notch though. Just okay games.
 

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PC RPG Website of the Year, 2015 Make the Codex Great Again! Grab the Codex by the pussy Insert Title Here RPG Wokedex Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag. Pathfinder: Wrath
I still have other universes to explore with Ciri, where I am in charge of the story and characters:

https://www.wallpaperflare.com/the-...tion-cyberpunk-2077-cris-ciri-wallpaper-svqya
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BruceVC

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Name a top notch game with a fixed female main character... I'll wait
Tomb Raider, Control , Resident Evil 3, Mirrors Edge and Alien Isolation. Its subjective if you like these games but they all entertaining

Its silly to suggest " you cant have a good game with a female protagonist " but thats not the same thing as having legitimate criticism around Ciri as the main character in W4
None of those games minus possibly RE3 are top notch though. Just okay games.
Yes because our definitions of a good game will always be subjective as you know

I love Bethesda games but other people will tell you they terrible

The point I was making is you do find games where there is a female protagonist and they entertaining and fun to play
 

AwesomeButton

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PC RPG Website of the Year, 2015 Make the Codex Great Again! Grab the Codex by the pussy Insert Title Here RPG Wokedex Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag. Pathfinder: Wrath
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Storyfag

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You're an absolute retard lol. Ciri makes no sense as a Witcher. You sound like a big fag too posting stuff about let CDPR cook
Simping for CDPR is a patriotic duty for Polish 'dexers.
Oh how easily you forget that I revoked CDPRs Polish card, and therefore nigger privlidges, for the moment. For shame, for shame.
 

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Come on now her scar is there to look "cool"/more like Geralt, not intended to be bad looking in any shape or form by mid 2010s of CDPR. In the books it looked bad enough for her to be very insecure about it at the least, yeah she could still be hot I guess from certain angles :lol:

How can any red blooded male not wanted to beat the living shit out of Yen?

Geralt is such a fucking cuck.
 
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Storyfag

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You're an absolute retard lol. Ciri makes no sense as a Witcher. You sound like a big fag too posting stuff about let CDPR cook
Simping for CDPR is a patriotic duty for Polish 'dexers.
Oh how easily you forget that I revoked CDPRs Polish card, and therefore nigger privlidges, for the moment. For shame, for shame.
Lord_Potato didn't get the memo apparently))
No, you didn' get it. He's simping, true. That is his business, and his shame. Polish 'dexers as a wider body, are not doing so. Therefore your assertion is false.
 

cvv

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.
Name a top notch game with a fixed female main character... I'll wait
Tomb Raider, Control , Resident Evil 3, Mirrors Edge and Alien Isolation.
Control is pretentious slop, Resident Evil is a retarded normie console pap (oooh aaah is so spoopy :soyface: ) and Mirrors Edge is hipster boredom simulator. Haven't played Alien Isolation.

I'm old, I was there when Tomb Raider came out, it blew everybody's mind, it was a true gaming pioneer and an genuine masterpiece. One of the Hall of Famers, no debate.
 

moleman

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I had never heard of this guy, so just now I fired up my media piracy machine ... a 100% legitimate vendor website, and boy you weren't kidding about that last part. Here's a blurb from Red Country, which I believe is book four of First Law:

They burned her home.
They stole her brother and sister.
But vengeance is following.
Shy South hoped to bury her bloody past and ride away smiling, but she'll have to sharpen up some bad old ways to get her family back, and she's not a woman to flinch from what needs doing. She sets off in pursuit with only a pair of oxen and her cowardly old stepfather Lamb for company.
My decision to give up on fiction looks better every day.
You need to read all the books of the series up to this point to really to evaluate what you just quoted because
her "cowardly old stepfather lamb" is in truth the most badass motherfucking bastard in the series (and probably beyond).
 

Reinhardt

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I had never heard of this guy, so just now I fired up my media piracy machine ... a 100% legitimate vendor website, and boy you weren't kidding about that last part. Here's a blurb from Red Country, which I believe is book four of First Law:

They burned her home.
They stole her brother and sister.
But vengeance is following.
Shy South hoped to bury her bloody past and ride away smiling, but she'll have to sharpen up some bad old ways to get her family back, and she's not a woman to flinch from what needs doing. She sets off in pursuit with only a pair of oxen and her cowardly old stepfather Lamb for company.
My decision to give up on fiction looks better every day.
You need to read all the books of the series up to this point to really to evaluate what you just quoted because
her "cowardly old stepfather lamb" is in truth the most badass motherfucking bastard in the series (and probably beyond).
yeah, her "old bad ways" is just some child's play compared to. and he's way too happy to embrace HIS old ways.
 

DannyRope

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I'm old, I was there when Tomb Raider came out, it blew everybody's mind, it was a true gaming pioneer and an genuine masterpiece. One of the Hall of Famers, no debate.

Hell yeah. Put respect in Tomb Raider and don't be shy about it. One might not like the game, liking one thing or the other is subjective after all, but to deny its importance is being ignorant or delusional. It's like the original Doom, younger gamers will never know what was to be in the hobby during the 90s. The jumps in videogame quality during that decade boggled the mind. It shouldn't be understated.
 

Cryomancer

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Is Ciri protagonist a good idea? Yes. Can modern cdpr with esg and openly discrimination against man in scholarships make a good game with that good idea? No
 

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