The Witcher The Witcher IV - The Ciri Saga Begins

[Justicar]

When you put the pieces together with The Last Joker, you almost feel impressed at how spiteful and malicion Ryan Johnson is. He knows he's handing this series off to a different director, and goes out of his way to not only nuke every plot twist and intrigue that he got from The Farce Awakens, but to kill off Luke unnecessarily so that the next director can't use this character. You could literally cut Luke's last scene in the film about five seconds earlier, and then you wouldn't see him dissolve into nothing and Luke could be a character in The Rise of Skinwalker.

He made sure to make this impossible. Purposefully. Out of spite. While cackling to himself like a maniac.

Circle of life nigga.

 

[Hace El Oso]

Except that the quest for revenge and the desire for justice it stems from is an inherently masculine quality. If you were to write a realistic female character she would just marry a guy from the group of Barbarians she met up with, have their children, and forget about her past altogether.

Revenge isn’t masculine, it’s aristocratic. If the woman is ‘of the blood’ and a high quality example, she’ll wear revenge as well as any man. She’ll just likely have to go about it somewhat differently.

 

[Ryzer]

Not this shit again.

 

[ga♥]

What quality over quantity. Witcher 3 was full of meaningless shit "?" computer generated quests where you go there, kill a couple of enemies, perhaps a level 50 wolf, and then get some shit again computer generated shit loot.

 

[moon knight]

What quality over quantity. Witcher 3 was full of meaningless shit "?" computer generated quests where you go there, kill a couple of enemies, perhaps a level 50 wolf, and then get some shit again computer generated shit loot.

To be fair most of those "?" (which are called living world events) were placed in areas left empty because related quests were cut or moved

 

[Ibn Sina]

Its gonna be a full butch dyke experience...That seems the path the retards at CDPR are following.

 

[Mauman]

Mark Hamill is a shitlib twitter bitch, but he clearly wasn't happy with being reduced to a useless old man who failed at everything and just gave up, and then distracted the not-empire with a literal magic trick and died for buttfuck no reason.

When you put the pieces together in The Last Joker, you almost feel impressed at how spiteful and malicious Ryan Johnson is. He knows he's handing this series off to a different director, and goes out of his way to not only nuke every plot twist and intrigue that he got from The Farce Awakens, but to kill off Luke unnecessarily so that the next director can't use this character. You could literally cut Luke's last scene in the film about five seconds earlier, and then you wouldn't see him dissolve into nothing and Luke could be a character in The Rise of Skinwalker.

He made sure to make this impossible. Purposefully. Out of spite. While cackling to himself like a maniac.

Mark Hamill is an interesting case of never meeting or learning about your heroes.

What a fucking mental dumbfuck that guy is.

 

[Storyfag]

What quality over quantity. Witcher 3 was full of meaningless shit "?" computer generated quests where you go there, kill a couple of enemies, perhaps a level 50 wolf, and then get some shit again computer generated shit loot.

To be fair most of those "?" (which are called living world events) were placed in areas left empty because related quests were cut or moved

*laughs in Skellige smuggler caches*

 

[harhar!]

Except that the quest for revenge and the desire for justice it stems from is an inherently masculine quality.

IDK, man. Women can be horribly vengeful over the pettiest of things.

Yes, and they would enact that vengeance by manipulating a man to do the violence for her, instead of committing it herself. E.g. by telling lies to the cops/the court/your new bf etc. It would be more in line with female nature if she went to manipulate the Barbarians somehow into killing the Necromancer.

 

[Tehdagah]

Mark Hamill is a shitlib twitter bitch, but he clearly wasn't happy with being reduced to a useless old man who failed at everything and just gave up, and then distracted the not-empire with a literal magic trick and died for buttfuck no reason.

When you put the pieces together in The Last Joker, you almost feel impressed at how spiteful and malicious Ryan Johnson is. He knows he's handing this series off to a different director, and goes out of his way to not only nuke every plot twist and intrigue that he got from The Farce Awakens, but to kill off Luke unnecessarily so that the next director can't use this character. You could literally cut Luke's last scene in the film about five seconds earlier, and then you wouldn't see him dissolve into nothing and Luke could be a character in The Rise of Skinwalker.

He made sure to make this impossible. Purposefully. Out of spite. While cackling to himself like a maniac.

This whole post is a hell of projection.

 

[Ol' Willy]

Except that the quest for revenge and the desire for justice it stems from is an inherently masculine quality.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olga_of_Kiev#Drevlian_Uprising

 

[Zlaja]

And I am always amused when people claim Sapkowski stole anything from Moorcock, while their characters couldn't be different, despite the hair color and the weapon of choice being a sword

You didn't mention Geralt being referred to as the 'White Wolf' in the books. And where did we hear that before:

Resident Evil is a retarded normie console pap

Later games, yes, but the original trilogy is good stuff.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

And I am always amused when people claim Sapkowski stole anything from Moorcock, while their characters couldn't be different, despite the hair color and the weapon of choice being a sword

You didn't mention Geralt being referred to as the 'White Wolf' in the books. And where did we hear that before:

Eh, this sort of plagiarism doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things if the work ends up being good in its own right. And in a historical context, it helped popularize the modern fantasy genre for a Polish (& beyond) audience. Similar thing happened with rock music in the Eastern Bloc, with a lot of bands plagiarizing western stuff yet in doing so paving the way for more original projects to emerge and find an audience.

 

[Skinwalker]

Mark Hamill is a shitlib twitter bitch, but he clearly wasn't happy with being reduced to a useless old man who failed at everything and just gave up, and then distracted the not-empire with a literal magic trick and died for buttfuck no reason.

When you put the pieces together in The Last Joker, you almost feel impressed at how spiteful and malicious Ryan Johnson is. He knows he's handing this series off to a different director, and goes out of his way to not only nuke every plot twist and intrigue that he got from The Farce Awakens, but to kill off Luke unnecessarily so that the next director can't use this character. You could literally cut Luke's last scene in the film about five seconds earlier, and then you wouldn't see him dissolve into nothing and Luke could be a character in The Rise of Skinwalker.

He made sure to make this impossible. Purposefully. Out of spite. While cackling to himself like a maniac.

This whole post is a hell of projection.

No it fucking isn't. That fat soycuck left the next director basically NOTHING to work with. And he knew the next director wasn't going to be him, originally was supposed to be someone called Collin Trevor, but Kaitlin Kennedy changed it to bring Jar Jar Abrams back to give a resolution to the stuff he set up in the first part of the new trilogy, in an ironic twist of fate.

RJ kills off the knock-off Palpatine in the middle of the movie, establishes that Ray has no mysterious backstory, kills off Luke completely unnecessarily after revealing that there wasn't much to his super-secret hideout anyway, kills off almost the entire Rebellion, and adds nothing to the table besides "some kids somewhere might be awakening to the Force or something". And a fat Asian chick. And then that little shit goblin has the gall to include messaging throughout his film saying "discard the past, kill it if you have to".

He's basically saying to the next director (and all the star wars movie watchers): "There, I've cleared the board. I binned the entire legacy of the original Star Wars and the first film for you, now come up with something brand new and original, chuds." In the MIDDLE of a trilogy of films that are set to closely follow each other chronologically.

What a shitball!

 

[Heroic Liberator]

 

[Donald Gordon Lord]

lmao, this shit gonna suck balls.

Over/under on CDPR retconning Vesimir into a fag?

Ciri finds a heartfelt memoir of the first time he got his fartbox tongue-punched by an elf twink or some shit. Impactful stuff.

 

[BruceVC]

The Witcher 4 devs address backlash following Ciri’s reveal as main character​

“I think there’s many very valid worries and responses, because I think a lot of them come out of passion, and I think a lot of those questions are also questions that we asked ourselves,” began Weber.

The narrative director then asserted that the dev team are “beholden to the lore” and the “canon of the books” created by Andrzej Sapkowski. Adding that they “really want to respect that.”

He further noted how they are not “suddenly making up stuff just because we want to. We really want to take these things seriously.”

He wrapped up the conversation by adding, “I think the best answer for us, for those people that really are worried right now, is basically to show them, when we are ready, that we really do this well and with care. And I hope we can then convince them with the game itself. Actions speak louder than words.”

https://www.dexerto.com/gaming/the-...owing-ciris-reveal-as-main-character-3011687/

It is probably marketing babble, but we shall see. At least there's no "oh noes, the CHUDS are attacking! Circle the wagons!"

There is a better link within that link which is the full Eurogamer interview

https://www.eurogamer.net/the-witch...if-the-game-will-honour-your-previous-choices

The Devs address some of the concern around the lore accuracy and questions like " was Ciri suppose to become a Witcher according to the original narrative "

Does he 'approve' of Ciri being a fully fledged witcher? I ask as it's a bit of a discussion point with fans at the moment, about whether she is or she isn't officially a witcher, whether she goes through the Trial of the Grasses [CDPR has confirmed that she does, in the time before The Witcher 4]. Has he explicitly said, say, 'yes, that's absolutely fine'?

Weber: I mean, I can actually give you a very good answer, because it's the answer that Andrzej Sapkowski usually gives: the answer is in the books. And in the books, Andrzej Sapkowski called Ciri a witcher multiple times, and Geralt called Ciri a witcher in the books too. So I think that basically says what Andrzej Sapkowski thinks about the topic.

This interview doesnt changes any of my real issues with Ciri as the main protagonist which markec already articulated but it does provide some reasoning around this controversial choice

 

[just]

lmao, this shit gonna suck balls.

Over/under on CDPR retconning Vesimir into a fag?

Ciri finds a heartfelt memoir of the first time he got his fartbox tongue-punched by an elf twink or some shit. Impactful stuff.

trail of grasses is drugging young lads and then older witchers taking turns
always has been like that

 

[mondblut]

Weber:[/B] I mean, I can actually give you a very good answer, because it's the answer that Andrzej Sapkowski usually gives: the answer is in the books. And in the books, Andrzej Sapkowski called Ciri a witcher multiple times, and Geralt called Ciri a witcher in the books too. So I think that basically says what Andrzej Sapkowski thinks about the topic.

The books: "Daddy, look, I'm, like, a real witchur!" "Oh, sweetheart, that's so cute, lemme make a wooden sword for you".
The cucks: "She's a real witchur, it's right there in the books!11"

So I gather TWitcher 3 has an optional ending of her "becoming a witcher". Does it by any chance explain why would a dimension-hopping sorcerous equivalent of a thermonuclear warhead drop it all to become a potion addict barely capable of lighting a candle with the power of her mind? Because "Imma stronk indipindy wymmyn and I can do whatever I please, and today I please to play a monster hunter"?

A shame they went on with the trial of grasses. Shoulda said that she's a witcher because she identifies as one, and that settles it.

 

[Zlaja]

Witcher 4 Ciri, improved by AI:

NSFW

 

[Reinhardt]

still

 

[markec]

The Witcher 4 devs address backlash following Ciri’s reveal as main character​

“I think there’s many very valid worries and responses, because I think a lot of them come out of passion, and I think a lot of those questions are also questions that we asked ourselves,” began Weber.

The narrative director then asserted that the dev team are “beholden to the lore” and the “canon of the books” created by Andrzej Sapkowski. Adding that they “really want to respect that.”

He further noted how they are not “suddenly making up stuff just because we want to. We really want to take these things seriously.”

He wrapped up the conversation by adding, “I think the best answer for us, for those people that really are worried right now, is basically to show them, when we are ready, that we really do this well and with care. And I hope we can then convince them with the game itself. Actions speak louder than words.”

https://www.dexerto.com/gaming/the-...owing-ciris-reveal-as-main-character-3011687/

It is probably marketing babble, but we shall see. At least there's no "oh noes, the CHUDS are attacking! Circle the wagons!"

There is a better link within that link which is the full Eurogamer interview

https://www.eurogamer.net/the-witch...if-the-game-will-honour-your-previous-choices

The Devs address some of the concern around the lore accuracy and questions like " was Ciri suppose to become a Witcher according to the original narrative "

Does he 'approve' of Ciri being a fully fledged witcher? I ask as it's a bit of a discussion point with fans at the moment, about whether she is or she isn't officially a witcher, whether she goes through the Trial of the Grasses [CDPR has confirmed that she does, in the time before The Witcher 4]. Has he explicitly said, say, 'yes, that's absolutely fine'?

Weber: I mean, I can actually give you a very good answer, because it's the answer that Andrzej Sapkowski usually gives: the answer is in the books. And in the books, Andrzej Sapkowski called Ciri a witcher multiple times, and Geralt called Ciri a witcher in the books too. So I think that basically says what Andrzej Sapkowski thinks about the topic.

This interview doesnt changes any of my real issues with Ciri as the main protagonist which markec already articulated but it does provide some reasoning around this controversial choice

Witcher 3 has a ending where Ciri decides to become a witcher, with Geralt giving her a silver sword and calling her a witcher while not actually doing Trial of the Grasses.

Its logical for a person who does witcher work to be called a witcher by others even if that person does not have witcher powers, and keep in mind that Ciri has even more powerful powers. The lore issue with the trailer is that it gives a impression that Ciri has become a full fledged mutated witcher, which is only possible with Trial of the Grasses. That is something she has no business going trough since she is a woman and adult, as its done on children and no girl ever survived it. Not that she even needs that as her powers already make her very powerful.

So the lore wise it makes no sense for her to finish Trial of the Grasses as she cant and she doesnt need to, as she is already powerful and already a witcher.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Welcome to the world of grownups, where you realize even the "classic" authors in fantasy are hacks, and in ~80 years the non-derivative authors can be counted on one hand... and are more likely to have been born in the 19th century.

Sometimes I wonder if all of the 20th century's advances were not simply the inertia of the 19th century's propulsion, which ended around the time of the A-bomb. Culturally, I'm positive that they were. Whether they were so technologically, that's worth researching, though someone probably already has.

 

[cretin]

Welcome to the world of grownups, where you realize even the "classic" authors in fantasy are hacks, and in ~80 years the non-derivative authors can be counted on one hand... and are more likely to have been born in the 19th century.

Sometimes I wonder if all of the 20th century's advances were not simply the inertia of the 19th century's propulsion, which ended around the time of the A-bomb. Culturally, I'm positive they were, technologically, it's worth researching, though someone probably already has.

Reading neuromancer and having that sinking realization set in that the reason this is so familiar is because all the cyberpunk/sci-fi media I've consumed over the years is derivative of this one work. Shamelessly recycled, bit by bit.

 

[Ryzer]

What quality over quantity. Witcher 3 was full of meaningless shit "?" computer generated quests where you go there, kill a couple of enemies, perhaps a level 50 wolf, and then get some shit again computer generated shit loot.

To be fair most of those "?" (which are called living world events) were placed in areas left empty because related quests were cut or moved

*laughs in Skellige smuggler caches*

The biggest rape of one of the most beautiful archipelago in a videogame I've ever seen.