It's like they are grasping at straws to make up an excuse.
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Azazel
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Haha, wow, this is turning into a PR nightmare for Eidos. Both the official forums and their facebook are livid.
Clearly they were banking on this being a sleepy little IP that was largely forgotten by the fanbase, and it has not turned out the way they were expecting.
Clearly they were banking on this being a sleepy little IP that was largely forgotten by the fanbase, and it has not turned out the way they were expecting.
Data4
Arcane
Almost as entertaining as Sim City.
Almost.
Only this time, I'm more disappointed. I loved the Thief series waaaaaay more than Sim City and was looking forward to this.
Almost.
Only this time, I'm more disappointed. I loved the Thief series waaaaaay more than Sim City and was looking forward to this.
This is what I keep thinking. What are the old Looking Glass people up to today? Right now if they came on KS with a "spiritual successor" to Thief by the guys who brought you the originals.... My goodness, I think they would shatter KS fundraising records!!! Then have a $5m stretch goal to get Stephen Russell!
Making games you love does not pay as much as working for AAA Publishers.
Azazel
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- Levine: Making the most pretentious popamole you've ever seen, heard, or headbutted someone about to try and get them to realize it is shit.
- Spector: Bemoaning the fact that his shitty Disney-branded Wii games were really shitty.
- Brosius's: Dancing Games & Dishonored
- Randy Smith: Mobile Games
- Harvey Smith: Arkane (Dishonored)
- Pagliarulo: Bethesda, fucking around with Skyrim and making sure Russell has a paycheque from SOMEBODY.
- Stellmach: Licensed Garbage @ Activision
- Doug Church: Who the fuck knows? Not even Valve!
You sure? Brian Fargo seems to be doing ok for himself...
That is one depressing list...
Fargo was not a part of Looking Glass.
That is one depressing list...
I KNOW that! What do you think I joined in 2013 Jaesun?!!
It's all good my friend. 
What I'm saying is that Fargo seems to be doing quite well making non-AAA games and I imagine those working with him like it better than the sweat-shops at EA, etc.
Fargo went back to making the games he likes to make (and Produced) and enjoys. And it is working out so far.
No one from Looking Glass seems to want to do that. Even Warren Spector....
The AAA Publishers and Developers do offers some good money...... Think bout that for a minute.
I'm actually curious about that. How much do those top dogs (developers) make? Second tier guys along the lines of a Avellone, Mitsoda, McComb, etc. (and, yes, I know those aren't AAA developer guys)? Then the grunts....?
As much as people will scoff at the thought, there isn't as much of a variance between old and modern when it comes to Thief/Deus Ex/System Shock style games compared to Infinity Engine RPGs. Yes we can tear Dishonored/Human Revolution/Bioshock apart and list all the ways their predecessors are better, and I agree with them all probably, but at the end of the day Dishonored is a lot more like Thief 2 than Skyrim is like Planescape Torment.
The desire isn't as palpable, I would think.
Also 3D first-person would cost more money, I suspect.
The desire isn't as palpable, I would think.
Also 3D first-person would cost more money, I suspect.
Who expected Skyrim to be anything like Planescape?
If you wanted to say Morrowind or Daggerfall, then the changes between those and Skyrim are similar to the changes between SS2 and Infinite, Deus Ex and Human Revolution, etc; that is, spending time and resources making the game look as photo-realistic as possible through animation, voice acting, mocap, and so on, rather than spending those resources on actual meaningful gameplay content, and making the games less challenging in general for fear that player might not see that MAJESTIC CINEMATIC MOMENT near the end of the game that they blew a million dollars on.
If you wanted to say Morrowind or Daggerfall, then the changes between those and Skyrim are similar to the changes between SS2 and Infinite, Deus Ex and Human Revolution, etc; that is, spending time and resources making the game look as photo-realistic as possible through animation, voice acting, mocap, and so on, rather than spending those resources on actual meaningful gameplay content, and making the games less challenging in general for fear that player might not see that MAJESTIC CINEMATIC MOMENT near the end of the game that they blew a million dollars on.
I guess what I am basically saying is that kickstarter is fueled by desire for things not being made otherwise. No matter how decline Dishonored, Human Revolution and Bioshock are they scratch that itch for most people well enough that they're not as desperate.
Dear game industry: it is because of retarded shit like this that I am happy I don't buy your games anymore. Like, what the fuck.So apparently they didn't use Stephen Russell because of immershun.
Borelli
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Like Dishonored with stealth.
I don't understand their logic/train of thought:
Holy hell, they really are retarded. I find this funny that they still "want" to appeal to the old fans and then casually splatter crap on our faces.
1. We have a franchise with 3 games in it and fans who love them
2. We will make another game in it to make money off those fans
3. We will make design decisions that piss them off and streamline it for modern audiences
How does this line of thinking work?
Do game devs chugging mountain dews have different brain patterns or so?
This game will be SO fucking bad
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