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Tim Cain and Leonard Boyarsky say a New Vegas remaster would be awesome

Roguey

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I meant these 2 specifically. Adler is GD of TOW2, Patel is Awoved's, Josh is busy tweeting shit, Tim & Leo?
My understanding is that both are on TOW 2, but they stepped down as directors so Boyarsky can focus full time on narrative and Cain on programming.
 

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They just need to retire. They made great games but to innovate you need to burn yourself working, hard to when old. Can give advice to new generations n stuff.
 

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The main flaw in New Vegas that should be addressed in a full on remake (it would need more than a "remaster" in order to sell properly) is the small themepark open world layout where deserts are crossed in a couple of minutes of running and you're never more than a 30 second sprint from a source of fresh water and food rendering all the survival elements and themes ridiculous.
This has always been my main problem with New Vegas. As much as I love that game, and although the passion has cooled off in recent years as all eventually do, there were times when I was totally obsessed with it, though I maintain that sort of enthusiasm only for the first two anymore and even that sporadically. It was a masterpiece in many ways but it the design choices made regarding the map and the flow of the narrative significantly hurt the game overall for anything beyond the first play through. Obviously you can forgo most of everything south of Goodsprings if you want to and it was remarkably well thought out to where the game will account for different approaches to the multiple narratives, but you ultimately end up thereby missing out on a huge amount of content. The DLCs actually make up for that in a sense, but as time has gone by I found myself needing further and further distance between replays in order to properly enjoy it. Even with mods, I like having the whole narrative behind my character as that higher level content is approached, but that is of course my own prerogative. Still that loop definitely has a theme park feel to it and I wish they'd have done things differently; that little race track West of Nipton is the game in miniature.
 

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This is so dumb... FNV is one of my favorites, but why remaster games that came out after say 1995? Before that, you can make a case the graphics/UI/sounds/etc was just trash, so it might make some sense, but obviously you can't just remaster those either, you would have to redo them in modern style. But for games after 1995, they are perfectly playable, and these remasters are just pointless money grabs by studios.
It's entirely about money. Nobody is lining up to remaster Darklands or Ultima IV, because there's limited profit potential. Instead they choose games like GTA 3, Resident Evil 4, Final Fantasy 7, even though these games are all perfectly playable in their original formats. They know that millennial bugmen will spend nostalgia bux for it.

Nobody even bothers to make the argument about games preservation anymore, because it's plainly bullshit when the original IE games were delisted from Steam before the Beamdog versions released.
 

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Nobody even bothers to make the argument about games preservation anymore, because it's plainly bullshit when the original IE games were delisted from Steam before the Beamdog versions released.
The original IE games were never released on Steam. Selling them exclusively was one of GOG's major draws in its early years.
 

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https://www.gamespot.com/articles/obsidian-wants-to-make-fallout-new-vegas-remastered/1100-6511908/

Fallout: New Vegas is one of the most beloved RPGs of all time, and it can be pretty tough to get it run well on a modern PC. The leadership of developer Obsidian would love to change that if they have a chance, with game directors Tim Cain and Leonard Boyarsky saying that they would love to remaster the game.

:timcain:
The year is 2029, and the Fallout: New Vegas: Remaster: Premium edition has finally dropped, forcefully converting any copy on Steam and similar websites to the new version. All legal download/purchase links for the original version are taken down. The brand new OFFICIAL multiplayer mode requires a constant internet connection. All Legion quests have been removed, and the faction has been rendered permanently hostile to the player. House has been completely reworked into a story about how Donald Trump ruined America, and his catchphrase is "Make Vegas Great Again." Every other line of dialogue spoken by him ends with it. There are 23 new achievements, 4 of which are physically impossible to complete without breaking the game. Acquiring every achievement unlocks a new end of credits sequence where Joshua Sawyer and Chris Avellone are trapped in a basement, zip-tied to shitty office chairs, ball-gagged, and buck naked. Todd Howard descends from the basement stairs with a BBW-tier dragon dildo in each hand.

The scene fades to black. Muffled screams of pain and pleasure are audible. The darkness slowly fades away to reveal Todd Howard's stoic, unblinking expression.

"Buy my game." The words are repeated by him faster and faster, with a higher pitch each time, until the game CTD's. In its place is your web browser, forcefully opened, and on the store page for The Elder Scrolls: Skyrim: Legendarily Epic Edition.
indeed...including new content:
New questline from Mrs House...long held in cryogenics after too many plastic surgeries released upon recovery of the additional Palladium chip
New companions Dawn el-Joril the edgy transgender ghoul and Leira the wild west rodeo clown
New location in Seattle with quests 'Food not Bombs', 'Ghoul Lives Matter' and 'Occupy Vegas'
New ending with additional faction of Yes Woman - forcing equality across all the Wasteland.
 

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There's nothing more pathetic than having nothing that's new and good to offer so you just endlessly remaster stuff. When you're at that point, you're basically admitting your remaster will be worse than the original anyway.
 

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Im no expert but, remastering NW (an old game in an old engine) vs remastered ToW seems like two totally different challenges...

Obviously NW would be much tougher to do, because you'd basically have to rebuild the game from scratch in a new engine. Whereas ToW is simpler because its more about refining the existing build. Right?
 
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Im no expert but, remastering NW (an old game in an old engine) vs remastered ToW seems like two totally different challenges...

Obviously NW would be much tougher to do, because you'd basically have to rebuild the game from scratch in a new engine. Whereas ToW is simpler because its more about refining the existing build. Right?
It depends. They can do a remaster without changing the engine, kind of like what Bioware did with Mass Effect LE. The number of polygons and texture resolution can be increased on the old engine. The same goes for animation, it can be improved without changing the engine. As for other features, it depends on how modular Gamebryo is, perhaps it is possible to shoehorn in some things like more modern rendering/lighting, etc.
 

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Im no expert but, remastering NW (an old game in an old engine) vs remastered ToW seems like two totally different challenges...

Obviously NW would be much tougher to do, because you'd basically have to rebuild the game from scratch in a new engine. Whereas ToW is simpler because its more about refining the existing build. Right?
It depends. They can do a remaster without changing the engine, kind of like what Bioware did with Mass Effect LE. The number of polygons and texture resolution can be increased on the old engine. The same goes for animation, it can be improved without changing the engine. As for other features, it depends on how modular Gamebryo is, perhaps it is possible to shoehorn in some things like more modern rendering/lighting, etc.
ehhh...sounds pretty limited then. So Fallout: Skyrim engine basically? Not even that, because it's the old ass F3 version of GameBryo :-D

Hardly seems worthwhile.

Unless they convince J. Sawyer to really re-do the game from scratch... (again) under insane time-pressure and a shoe-string budget :thumbsup:

I rate: #NotHappening
 

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Im no expert but, remastering NW (an old game in an old engine) vs remastered ToW seems like two totally different challenges...

Obviously NW would be much tougher to do, because you'd basically have to rebuild the game from scratch in a new engine. Whereas ToW is simpler because its more about refining the existing build. Right?
Presumably a remaster would just be moving everything to the latest incarnation of the engine they've jury rigged like they did with Skyrim after Fallout 4's release.
 

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They'll touch up the game with a few choice Nexusmods textures here and there. Also included will be DLC with a Moonman costume from The Outer Worlds and new skins for your weapons imprinted with the words Slava Ukraini. Prostitutes will be removed from the game but you'll be able to purchase rainbow and black colored dildos from the proprietors at The Atomic Wrangler. Any slightly mature theme will be preceded by a 3 minute trigger warning with accompying T&C's to sign requiring a compulsory internet connection and photo identification. Your role-playing choices will then be logged by a drug addled Obsidian tranny who'll also be monitoring your overall social credit score. If you make any "wrong" choices like shooting the black Powder Ganger leader in Goodsprings the game will CTD and a Pornhub page will pop up showing a giant mixed-race Tranny cock exploding directly into the camera; then you'll hear the shrill voice of Fisto saying, "You're FUCKED, MAGA CHUD."
 

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They'll touch up the game with a few choice Nexusmods textures here and there. Also included will be DLC with a Moonman costume from The Outer Worlds and new skins for your weapons imprinted with the words Slava Ukraini. Prostitutes will be removed from the game but you'll be able to purchase rainbow and black colored dildos from the proprietors at The Atomic Wrangler. Any slightly mature theme will be preceded by a 3 minute trigger warning with accompying T&C's to sign requiring a compulsory internet connection and photo identification. Your role-playing choices will then be logged by a drug addled Obsidian tranny who'll also be monitoring your overall social credit score. If you make any "wrong" choices like shooting the black Powder Ganger leader in Goodsprings the game will CTD and a Pornhub page will pop up showing a giant mixed-race Tranny cock exploding directly into the camera; then you'll hear the shrill voice of Fisto saying, "You're FUCKED, MAGA CHUD."
Honestly, I can see the Arch Traitor himself, Tim Cain, do this.
Tim Cain is on the same level with Judas.
 

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Wtf are Cain and Boyarksy doing wasting the 4-5 years they have left in the industry making garbage? Finish Arcanum or real Fallout and not the shit Bethesda has been churning. I fucking tired of the FPS-RPG bullshit.
 

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Anyway they had to split the strip because engine limitations so a remaster with more content Is a decent idea. Also Robert House should be a limping medico genius with a bad attitude and should call the legion "Lupus"
 

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I consulted AI what the new Mr House will look like:

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This is so dumb... FNV is one of my favorites, but why remaster games that came out after say 1995? Before that, you can make a case the graphics/UI/sounds/etc was just trash, so it might make some sense, but obviously you can't just remaster those either, you would have to redo them in modern style. But for games after 1995, they are perfectly playable, and these remasters are just pointless money grabs by studios.

Grow a pair and start making good new games. The whole remaster phenomenon shows just how big of hacks most developers are. Imagine if someone told a writer to remaster their book, or a painter to redraw their painting with the latest technologies... Real artists want to create new original stuff, these hacks just keep churning the same old shit.
Because consolecucks don't have backwards compatibility. Microsoft has it in limited capacity and Snoy only with PS4. Publishers are still getting money from decades old games on PC, while not getting any from consoles. Remasters solve that problem and also work as a pretext to raise the price of a cheap, old game (which, depending on the title and how much work was done, is sometimes justified).
 

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